just the way that like that nero norman norma timothy pretty slowly think of as normal is often it likeness so this excessively proper detached closed off like not real energy and way of interacting with people in many different words for this. i find it really critical to connect those two visa feel like collectively, our countries reconciling with this prayed and so we have these sub pockets of this communities that are also talking about this. so there is the synergy of like hey, what is this. so why do we expect people to behave a certain way or act a certain way and who decides what is normal and what is not normal was behind it that. in the patriarchy white supremacy. so think that is a really exciting conversation i'm excited for the divided be out there more. and really excited to see what we go with this and i think the artists, think are really important in this process and think the more that really created people integrate these kindss of perspectives and their work. and in films and media, andh using exhibits and even life social media activists predict i think the more tha