it's very--there's a funny story, because the managing editor for whom i worked was a friend of norman podhoretz. they had had a friendship, and norman was in germany in the army, and they were corresponding. and one day this man, robert warshow, wrote a letter to norman and said, 'there's someone here who says she knows you. her name is midge decter, and if her typing ever improves she may be here when you get back.' my typing never improved, but i was there anyway. c-span: how did you get to new york? >> guest: i--well, i blackmade--mailed my parents, actually, is what i did. i told them i wanted to study hebrew and i wanted to study at the jewish theological seminary of america, where they had a college of hebrew studies, and there was no way they could say no to that. c-span: you say in your book that your mother and father met through zion, their--their mutual... >> guest: that's right. they were zionists and i was brought up a zionist. c-span: what does that mean? >> guest: that means that we cared about what was then palestine and the jewish community there and were hoping that that would