qualified respected and well known the winner tonight is dr norman swan those are our australia as he's not our chief medical officer spoke to dr swan who gave us his take on his country's response and also the public's call for him to take charge. why would they want to condemn me to be the chief medical officer of the last drop in the world i want you know chief medical officers whether it's in russia or it's a thankless task there are new easy decisions where we realized that there was a vacuum of information where the public really where frightened and confused and unfortunately here who they weren't necessarily gazing at all the information they felt they needed we didn't and we didn't understand that of the time i've been a broadcast journalist in health for a long time so we thought we provide the service and simply answer people's questions and given the latest research it's still relatively low numbers when you think about what's going on in italy in america and other places but it's not good our doubling rate that's how how long it takes for 2000 to become $4000.00 cases is is