you validate the the and to talk about this, we're joined now by doctor norman the finkelstein, who is an american political scientist and active as an expert on the error is really conflict. we're also joined by tv and radio personality, syndicated columnist and political commentator who has worked with me in the past and you've seen us together sometimes agreeing and sometimes not agreeing steve balls burg. gentleman, i'd like to fact both of you for joining us. this is a, this is a heck of a thing that we're in right now, and one can't help but think. and i think we're making this point that it doesn't start with just what happened with some us. this has been taking place for some time now dr. finkelstein, i'd like for you to start us on this discussion of how and when this thing got out of hand to the point wherever it is now being talked about in terms of a prelude to a potential world war 3. what, what, what, what does the genesis of this in your eyes, without, i mean being to descriptive of everything that's happened over the last 100 years where this thing really get away from

the right welcome back. we are joined by our expert panel once again dr. norman finkelstein and steve malls per gentleman walk, and dr. finkelstein has used the words repeatedly, concentration camp when referring to the treatment of palestinians. um, it's obviously heated language, but he's not the only one who's used it. i should be fair and mentioned that steve . uh, you take umbrage at that terminology. it's not just your words, but your reaction is i'm watching your exit because rick, because rick it's, it's not only disrespectful, insensitive, and it's insane. okay, a o. c, a congresswoman here in new york from the, in the, in the united states said that our border, we were keeping our, the, the illegal immigrants to come into the country in concentration camps. the left likes to throw it around. now when you, you show me the gas chambers and the ovens and the skeletons and the star ration and the forced labor. and the lamp shades made from the skin. of those people that were in the real concentration cast run by the nazis. then we could talk, but to throw that around casually because you hate jews and y

the state of things as they are. i want to thank you, dr. norman finkelstein, as well as the steve malls berg for sharing this combat of passionate but the important debate that we were able to bring you. my thanks to you both before we go, i want to remind you of our mission here. what we try and do with this show is simply to the silo the world. we all tend to think that we only live in one little box and we only get information about our particular point of view. we think it's important that there should be more than one point of view. truth doesn't live in boxes. truth is everywhere. comic sanchez. i'll be looking for it and i'll be looking for you. but yeah, right here, where i hope to provide a direct impact the the, [000:00:00;00] the lot like, like i have asked him how to start and see all those in the region. the or non state actors by the operate within national about the normal range beyond national government. so if you don't have a june august mission to the res, seem you know, and bring spin back to the peace love at the end or restore that came that they are not in any way interested or involved in th

the . all right, welcome back. we are joined by our expert panel. once again dr. norman finkelstein and steve malls, burke, gentleman walk, um doctor finkelstein has used the words repeatedly, concentration cap when referring to the treatment of palestinians. um, it's obviously heated language, but he's not the only one who's used it. i should be fair and mentioned that steve . uh, you take umbrage at that terminology. it's not just your words, but your reaction is i'm watching you x. it could be called rick because rick it's, it's not only disrespectful, insensitive, and it's insane. okay, a o. c. i, a congresswoman here in new york from the, in the, in the united states said that our border we were keeping our, the, the illegal immigrants that come into the country in concentration camps the left likes to throw it around. now when you show me the gas chambers and the ovens and the skeletons, and this starvation in the forest labor and the lamp shades made from the skin, of those people that were in the real concentration cast run by the nazis. then we could talk. but to throw that

the right. welcome back. we are joined by our expert panel once again. doctor norman, single sign, and steve malls for gentleman walk. the doctor finkelstein has used the words repeatedly, concentration camp when referring to the treatment of palestinians. um, it's obviously heated language, but he's not the only one who's used it. i should be fair and mentioned that steve, if you take umbrage at that terminology, it's not just your words, but your reaction is i'm watching your x. it could be cause rick because rick it's, it's not only disrespectful insensitive, and it's insane. okay, a o. c, a congresswoman here in new york from the, in the, in the united states said that our border, we were keeping our, the, the illegal immigrants to come into the country in concentration camps. the left likes to throw it around. now when you show me the gas chambers and the ovens and the skeletons and the star ration in the forced labor, and the lamp shades made from the skin of those people that were in the real concentration cast run by the nazis. then we could talk, but to throw that around casually because you hate jews and you hate is real. if i tr

of directing fire with rick sciences, but right now, and the political scientists dumped the norman de finkelstein low tones was broke. also, steve mills, the ease of what you're in full, i'm out to you don't call that is a brief look. the people who have been the sign in the you're in a concentration camp for 20 years. so that is a strong word that, that, that is a strong word. so what, what, what the, and quality the, kimberly be i'm and then to sort of see all just from the university who described god. so as quote, the largest concentration can ever know. know what you're saying is the arabs and pals, city and teachers, and that's not a strong no, no, no, no. i'm saying i'm the, i'm telling you why. okay. reason why they teach their children this. yeah. on television shows in textbooks. what kind of civilization, what other civilization does that, what other people do that? well as actually, if you're not asked me that question, and i was going to answer at all what dr. finkelstein answer it, but what kind of country does that actually the united states when it comes to a rom, russia, china, a

you have to put it into context, and the best book on the field i find away, is the book by professor norman finkelsteinng jew, but he is not a zionist, and he wants to see two-state solution, he wants to say that the palestinians have their human dignity, which has been denied to them. and my former president, whom i very much respect and admire, jimmy carter wrote the book, palestine peace, not apartite. it is this condition of apartite that has driven the palestinians to desperation, and you have to put what is happening now. in that context, and again, israel is losing, i think militarily, and i think it's losing also the information war, in the... pass there was enormous uh solidarity, support, sympathy for israel as victims, now israel is a perpetrator, israel is committing genocide as israel itself, or rather as the jews themselves, endured the nazi, holocaus, so this is something that is happening in latin america. in africa and asia, people are thinking differently, and this change of perception is very important, and i am afraid that netanyahu is not entirely aware of it, he still thinks that

the middle east pensions, and trust me there will be tension. this is a passion of debate. my guess have much to say, steve malls berg, and doctor norman finkelstein will respectfully, or at least as respectfully as possible. try to talk about this very passionate argument with their own perspectives. about this dire situation will be right back the the, after the nazis bower in italy, states foreign policy became extremely aggressive. benito mussolini needed glorious victories. he decided to achieve his ambitions in africa. despite the fact that formally libya had become and daily and colony back in 1912. the vast territories of this country were not actually controlled by rome. the nazis decided to put an end to this. but as soon as the religious order of the senate side stood in their way, the arabs did not want to submit to for an hour and put up stairs, resistance, dividers against colonialism were led by the seats of this m a side order. omar l move star, who was nicknamed the lion of the desert for his incredible courage. despite the violent, bombardments and voice and gas usage, mass deportations, and the imprisonment of the local populati