trump: the great norman vincent peale was my pastor. the power of positive thinking. everybody has heard of him. norman vincent peale. he was so great. he would give a sermon. you would never want to leave. sometimes we have sermons, and every once in a while we think with leaving a little early, right, even though we're christian. he would give a sermon, i'm telling you, i still remember his sermons. it was unbelievable. he would bring real-life situations, modern day situations, into the sermon. you could listen to him all day long. brian: in your book, did you write about him? kate: the prosperity gospel evolved in different streams. one of them was the pentecostal version that we saw, people like ike murdock. brian: define pentecostal. kate:in a new air of science and wonders. it started in the early 1900s. it most often looked to healing. also, the gift of tongues, an unknown language. you will see people talking and what does not sound like intelligible words. brian: we heard mike murdock talked that way. kate: yes, it is called glossolalia. in some versions, it

trump: the great norman vincent peale was my pastor. the power of positive thinking. ybody has heard of him. norman vincent peale. i still remember his sermons. it was unbelievable. nobody wanted to leave. he would give a sermon, i'm telling you, i still remember his sermons. it was unbelievable. he would bring real-life situations, modern day situations into the sermon. you could listen to him all day long. [end video clip] brian: in your book, did you write about him? kate: the prosperity gospel is abundant in different streams are you one of them was the pentecostal version we saw and people like mike murdock. pentecostal, they believe we are in a new air of science and wonders. it started in the early 1900s. it most often looked to healing. also, the gift of tongues, an unknown language. you will see people talking and what does not sound like intelligible words. brian: we heard mike murdock talked that way. kate: yes, it is called glossolalia. in some versions, it is supposed to be a translatable language, but most iterations it sounds like the land of syllables.