interesting moment in the press conference that came when the president said in response to a question from noronell, that he was commited to showing what had actually happened behind the scenes, committed to showing the paperwork, committed to providing the details. i wonder if the president did get specific on entitlement reform, on his plan, if there is such a plan, doesn't it commit him to sharing it with the public after he said so, so publicly in a press conference? >> chris: charles, your reaction? >> well, a furious president obama. and what you wonder after watching that is what is left to talk about tomorrow morning at this meeting? >> chris: well, they have to find a way for the country not to go in default. >> exactly. but you wonder if the well hasn't been so poisoned by what what gonen in the last 24 hours that we don't know exactly what has gone on, whether we can get to solving the problem. for the first time in the whole process, i am beginning to doubt that we really will hit august 2 debt ceiling deadline. one of the unfortunate things about this press conference is that i und