pledge, which is making grover norquist feel pretty good about what the committee will do. to the hill, norquist has already been assured by the right people that house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell will not choose anyone willing to give ground on raising taxes, and he is confident enough to leave town for the august vacation. this leaves senate majority leader harry reid wondering out loud what he should do. he told politico, so what does that leave the committee to do? should pelosi and i just not appoint and walk away? nancy pelosi is obviously sick of republican politics and said this today. i'm not drawing any lines in the sand because i think it plays into their hand. when 12 clowns are in the ring and a sane person jumps into the ring he looks like the 13th clown. it is part of their plan to keep the attention on this, and i'm simply not going to do it. joining me now, independent senator from vermont, bernie sanders. thank you for joining me tonight, senator. >> my pleasure. >> senator, the campaign for america's future is circulati

grover norquist should be examined into. where does he get his money? i mean, it's time to now peel all the layers of the onion off of grover norquist. any time anybody else gets this quote famous and powerful, the president or whoever it is in the spotlight, you want to dig in. how does he get his money, where does he come from, how many people on the payroll, who is he, who is he slave to? somewhere that needs to come out soon. because when a guy is this powerful, you want to dig deep in the root. i'm not talking about salacious stuff and his personal life, i'm talking about where does he get his scratch and how does he terrify people? does he walk up to a guy saying i'm going to defeat you? why would you be scared of anybody who says that? you must be a chicken if you fall from that crap. >> senator, i want to read from your op-ed piece in the "new york times" you co-wrote. we need new finance for the health care system and an ageing population, but it should come from reducing or eliminating tax breaks, not from higher rates. the tax code is riddled

. >> reporter: grover norquist has made his no new taxes pledge to entrenched in washington that norquistays not a single house republican has voted for a tax increase in 21 years. and every republican presidential candidate this year except former utah governor jon huntsman has signed it. in 1988, the no taxes pledge became an issue in the new hampshire primary between republican bob dole and pete dupont. >> sign it. >> i'd have to read it first. maybe george will. >> reporter: both dodged the pledge and lost the nomination. that year's nominee, george h.w. bush, signed it. >> read my lips, no new taxes. >> reporter: but he raised taxes two years later. norquist blames the tax hike for bush's 1992 defeat. >> he signed the pledge. he broke the pledge. and he lost the presidency. >> reporter: when dole ran again in 1996, he caved and signed with norquist looking on and went on to win the nomination. but not everyone falls in line. >> everybody knows there's going to have to be a compromise on some sort of revenue increases. we make the major cuts. that's just fact. you can deny it. and gro

s who are going to say let's attract and a crazy idea what grover norquist is on t.v. pushing and he's on every single channel as if it's normal and has all the power because he does have power is what i'm saying and that makes sense you want to know why. he stands on this because he still scares the hell out of a lot of republicans but few are. voters scared very public and are should they be worried about what the american people are going to say rather than grover norquist absolutely but this happens on the democrat side as well there are various pledges that you're supposed to take in order to be a good democrat there's a new line in the sand if you don't ever touch entitlements and if you ever say that you're going to think about it we're going to punish you on that that's is interest group politics president obama obviously didn't sign that pledge really quickly i just want to ask because this was you know news that happened right before the show started two of the stock market closed it plummeted five hundred points today tomorrow it's probably not going to be m

either they can't read those numbers or they're simply lying. >> what do you make of grover norquisting he needs to see the legislation? >> he wants to be for tax cuts, all tax cuts all the time. so it's pretty hard for him to oppose this bill when could propose a tax increase. at the same time, he wants to get along with the republican party. you have a republican party who hates the president more than tax increases. norquist maybe has a little more consistency from the attitude of boehner, eric kantor and the rest. they want to take this money out of the economy, because they want to see to it, that the economy's in bad shape next year, they hope they can stall the recovery, so that they can ride the power on economic ruin. wait to see the final legislation before weighing in on this tax hike. make no mistake, a tax hike is just that, a tax hike. if the republicans tell you >> he wants to be for tax cuts, all tax cuts all the time. so it's pretty hard for him to oppose this bill when could propose a tax increase. at the same time, he wants to get along with the republican party. y

just reduce your flexibility in a crisis so you know the balanced budget amendment and the grover norquist pledge but this is not this is why we shouldn't listen this is why they downgraded this is why we should first of all we don't have a bone balanced budget and you know what is downgrading because of grover norquist pledge well that's what the republicans that's what you guys are following i mean how can anybody take republican ideas so no to the balanced budget and if you're a creditor it's not good but that doesn't mean it's not good for the person who has the bounce but remember it's not just like for you you expand your credit by taking out loans having a balanced budget paying them back three of us you already have all of us cutting up all of our credit cards and saying well never had already inside a car or credit that's gray's matter i don't i did is not going to order you ready i don't agree with about looking at it also i don't think i think it's a it was a silly thing to go down because we have to happen now and it would take a long time to get to the debt ceiling but equally

nobody's downgraded because of grover norquist but well that's you know public and that's what you guys are following i mean how can anybody take republican ideas no to the balanced budget and if your creditor it's not good but that doesn't mean that it's not good for the person who has the found just like for you you can you expand your credit by taking out loans having to balance playing the game in the three of us you're going to have all of us cutting out all of our credit cards and saying we'll never had organized and buy a car or credit and that's very sad i know i did is not going to order you read it i don't agree with you about it so i don't think i think it's a it was a silly thing to go down because we have to act now and that would take a long time to get to the debt ceiling but equally slightly but we're not going to pay for things that we want but most important point tom is that they were the key factor as they said it was the key to getting our our long term fiscal picture in order which is the key for the s. and p. to grade us and who talks about the title and the democ

. >> charles, president grover norquist has said that nobody can be on the joint super committee of caped men deciding on this that approves of any revenue increase -- >> then how is it that the speaker of the house publicly offered to raise revenues by $800 billion if norquist is president? >> because i am, he dropped it. >> is that a rhetorical question or real question? john boehner -- the public is now acknowledge, and you will finally -- republicans acknowledge any will finally concede, the concessions on medicare spending and john boehner agreed on the revenue. margaret is right. the condition of the super committee is that you have to oppose any tax increase/revenue increase, and that is going to lead to -- >> you have just had the most obvious public counter-argument to exactly what you are saying in the fact that the speaker of the house in public accepted a raise of almost $1 trillion. how can you argue that no republicans will raise revenues? it is ridiculous. >> who looks good, who looks back, who looks lost and you will that? >> -- lost an bewildered? >> to quote tom gallaghe

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on opposite sides of the battle is mark zuckerman and grover norquist. what do you believe about the tax increases? >> well, there should have been tax increases if only for a political matter, because everybody in the country seems to have to be participating in what i call shared sacrifice and that is how to get it done and also a bipartisan deal, and if anything gets done, both parties have to assume responsibility for it. that was lost. there was a moment there when boehner came to the president had $800 billion in tax, the elimination of what i would call tax expenditures or whatever you want to call it, all of the special deals built into the tax code that so distort the economy, and that money was going to go to rationalize the tax code, and i think that would have been a real stimulus to the economy, but the president frankly introduced another $400 billion request for tax increases and blew the deal out of the water. so lousy leadership on both sides as far as i'm concerned. >> grover norquist, you have won the day, you are implacably opposed to

all but 13 of the 287 republican members of congress have signed grover norquist's pledge to oppose allincluding closing loopholes, would a pledge signer violate that oath if he or she let the payroll tax cut expire? well, not technically according to the logic of norquist applied to the question of extending tax rates, norquist governs how you vote, there's no vote on the payroll tax rate and it expires, that's technically not a violence. that said, letting tax cuts go up on americans absolutely violates the anti-tax principle of this pledge. to quote eric cantor in his "washington post" -- more money out of the pockets of business people. republicans should support extending the payroll tax cut, but they don't. republican congressman jeb henserling told the associated press, "it's always a net positive to let tax payers keep more of what they earn, but not all tax relief is created equal." the reason some republicans do not believe the payroll tax cut stimulates the economy is because it's not permanent. in june, paul ryan called the tax cut "sugar high economics." a spokesman for lea

grover norquist is an old-fashioned name. from "our town" by thornton wilder, but don't be mistaken, nothing old fashioned about grover norquist. no, he's a very modern man in a time where jobs are hard to come by, grover has invented a job for himself, his job is to make sure those in congress take a loyalty oath to say they'll never raise taxes ever. tonight enough remembers of congress to vote for or against a particular legislation, there needs to be an oath. he believes something for today when you can be against it forever. that's the brilliance of grover. he saw the need and where there's a need, there's a job to be had. not sure there's another job like that in the united states of america. i'm not sure who pays him, but let's not haggle over small details. a job is a job and grover is in the loyalty business. grover discovered a flaw in a thinking man's progress. sometimes we'll change your mind. sometimes we think one way and realize there's another way. he spotted the flaw and realized no one had come up with the i

people who work for companies that do the work for governor but the republican tax master grover norquist as already mounted his opposition to the extension of the gas tax telling politico this week americans for tax reform has always supported the idea of ending the federal tax on gas and having states paid for their own roads and since republicans go along with whatever norquist says then expect those hundreds of thousands of workers to be the next hostages for the republicans will demand the tax be eliminated or demand something else in return for its extension oh and that does not mean you'll be paying eighteen cents less for gas if the tax expires as we're learning with the airlines right now when the government isn't collecting taxes corporations they'll pass the savings on to consumers like us they pocket the savings from our profits expect the oil corporations to do the same thing in this hostage crisis if they get the debt if they get the gas tax cuts. then inset the end of september there's another budget fight coming up in two thousand and eleven fiscal year ends in october and

either they can't read those numbers or they're simply lying. >> what do you make of grover norquistds to see the legislation? >> he wants to be for tax cuts, all tax cuts all the time. so it's pretty hard for him to oppose this bill when could propose a tax increase. at the same time, he wants to get along with the republican party. you have a republican party who hates the president more than tax increases. norquist maybe has a little more consistency from the attitude of boehner, eric kantor and the rest. they want to take this money out of the economy, because they want to see to it, that the economy's in bad shape next year, they hope they can stall the recovery, so that they can ride the power on economic ruin. >> do you anticipate any of the republican candidates to come out in favor of this? i mean, romney loves to say he's the job creator. perry talks about what kind of jobs he's created down there. it would seem to me this is something they would be on safe territory if they stepped up and said they were for it. >> romney's fallen apart as the front-runner, all the new poll

tax on gas and having states pay for their own roads and since republicans go along with whatever norquist says then expect those hundreds of thousands of workers to be the next hostages for the republicans who will demand a tax free eliminated or demand something else in return for its extension oh and that does not mean to be a pain eighteen cents less for gas if the tax expires as we're learning with the airlines right now and the government isn't collecting taxes corporations don't pass the savings on to consumers like us they pocket the savings from our profits expect oil corporations to do the same thing in this hostage crisis if they get the death if they get the gas tax cut. then in the end of september there's another budget fight coming up the two thousand and eleven fiscal year ends in october and congress will need to figure out a way to keep the government funded beyond that month a looming government shutdown is the perfect scenario for republicans to take their next stage eight hundred thousand government workers who will be out of work if the government gets shutdown and co

mentioned all of the republicans who were chosen did sign that pledge that was written by grover norquist not to increase taxes, so a lot of question marks about whether that's going to be possible. we haven't gotten a timetable though about when the president will be presented his own plan. we've been asking the white house when can we expect to see it. haven't gotten a whole lot of answers. certainly right now democrats very tuned into that trying to see what the president will do in terms of presenting his own plan. jonathan? >> the white house taking questions today about whether he's planning to go to martha's vineyard with his family for vacation. press secretary jay carney said no one would begrudge the president time away from his family. but i frankly think some would. what are you hearing? >> reporter: a lot of members of the president's own party the democrats are criticizing the president saying he hasn't shown enough leadership given the volatile markets, the downgrade. even had maureen dowd come out today and saying some of his constituents are disillusioned with him. certai

he has been taking the norquist positioned.cut somebody's taxes, you have to provide a tax break to somebody else. democrats are saying if we are going to go to a senior citizen and tell them they have to pay a higher premium on their medicare, someone who is 50 now and say you cannot get medicare for another two years, we cannot do that if we have not said to the guy who owns a the corporate jet engines got a bonus on wall street, you are not going to get hi. th-- going to get hit. nobody really knows how to score this sang. there is the potential for real economic growth. anyone who has anything, but it with their taxes at all knows there is a lot of sand in the gears in the tax code. there is a tax break for equipment in maryland. who lobbied for that? maryland has a big chicken manure industry. seriously? is that something -- the federal government has tens of thousands of pages of tax code and every single one of them as a lobbyist in town. it is going to be the superbowl of lobbying. there are all these tax interests that

taxes in any way, including by closing loopholes, eric cantor reminded republicans to stick to the norquist position today, sending a memo to his caucus reading in part, "i firmly believe we can find bipartisan agreements on savings that can be agreed to without tax increases. i believe this is what we must demand from the joint committee as it begins its work." >>> joining me now, democrat from illinois, congresswoman jan schakowsky, thanks for joining me tonight, congresswoman. >> thank you, lawrence. >> is eric cantor right, is it possible to, as he put it, find a bipartisan agreement? that means you, congresswoman, a bipartisan agreement on savings from mandatory programs that can be agreed to without tax increases? >> there's no way. if we don't put the millionaires and billionaires and the corporations that aren't paying any taxes or getting breaks to put our jobs overseas or the oil companies and we go after entitlement programs, social security, medicare, medicaid, you know, if this doesn't bring people to the streets, i don't know what will. certainly bring them to the phones becau

all of the senate and house republicans appointed to the super committee have signed grover norquist's pledge to never raise taxes in any way, including by closing tax loopholes, but two of the republican senators, kyl and toomey, violated the norquist pledge when they voted in favor of senator tom coburn's bill to repeal the ethanol tax credit. last night, senator majority leader harry reid appointed the three democratic members of the senate who will serve on the super committee, senator patty murray will serve as the democratic co-chair, she will be joined by senator john kerry, who serves on the finance committee, and senator max baucus, who is the chairman of the senate finance committee. the house of representatives is a democratic institution designed to represent people. the united states senate is not. it is designed to represent land. the state of montana has less than half the population of brooklyn, but the state of montana gets two senators and the state of new york gets two senators, even though new york has 20 times more people than montana. in a democratically-designed

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. >> and, of course, virtually every republican has signed on to grover norquist's americans for tax reform pledge. >> well, i think based on grover's pledge, this isn't furst time they've done it. remember back in 2006, the republicans and president bush raised taxes on teenagers who had jobs and were saving money so they could afford to go to college. i guess that's the fourth time the republicans have made it clear that tax cut for billion airs come first and ordinary people, well, you can pay higher taxes regardless of any pledge wez made to grover norquist. >> david k. johnson, thank you. >> verizon employees go back to work. will they get the protections they need? >>> and fox and friends asked donald trump about libya. of course, he's an expert. >>> thanks for watching "the ed show" tonight. the largest labor strike in four years has come to an end and verizon workers are set to resume their shift tonight. we're talking about 45,000 members of the communication workers of america in the international brotherhood of electable workers. they went on strike a couple weeks ago. the

the question is, does that pass muster with the grover norquist.ust hearing him today, the entire theme of it, even the question about social security was about would you raise the payroll tax, would you raise it higher so the rich have to pay more in this, and this issue of taxes on the republican side and then eventually if he is the nominee, and with president obama, you see he is struggling to walk the line here. it will be a tough issue for him to defend. i'm getting the wrap. i did come to the state fair. i brought goodies. this is cajun fried cheese. cajun fried cheese. then of course, that's lunch. then for dessert, it's really heavy, the fried snickers. >> i'm worried about your cholesterol. >> it's smart that you're coming out. you better come over and eat some fried food. >> well, you're there, we will see you there tomorrow and thanks so much, chuck todd. watch that diet. >>> what is behind tim pawlenty's iowa battle game? we haven't heard much about him so far. why is that? joe musser will join us from des moines. >>> is michele bachma

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. >> and, of course, virtually every republican has signed on to grover norquist's americans for taxeform pledge. >> well, i think based on grover's pledge, this isn't furst time they've done it. remember back in 2006, the republicans and president bush raised taxes on teenagers who had jobs and were saving money so they could afford to go to college. i guess that's the fourth time the republicans have made it clear that tax cut for billion airs come first and ordinary people, well, you can pay higher taxes regardless of any pledge wez made to grover norquist. >> david k. johnson, thank you. >> verizon employees go back to work. will they get the protections they need? >>> and fox and friends asked donald trum bp lp about libya. of course, he's an expert. [ female announcer ] feel the love! in 44 shades that love your lips to perfection. lip perfection from covergirl. a lip color with with silk moisturizing complex that leaves lips smoother in 7 days. what a feeling! lip perfection from covergirl. until i tried this. nothing helped me beat arthritis pain. it's salonpas. pain relief t

, there were revenue increases, closing loopholes that nobody wants to defend, except for grover norquist, who is having an incredible amount of power in this debate. there's a counter intuitive thing here. you have to spend some to get out of the economic morass we are in in order to stimulate the economy and get jobs and get revenue back into the -- >> as i said at the beginning of the program, it looks like we are shrinking rather than expanding. the numbers for this last quarter are terrible. >> in the long run, the spending that we have is completely unsustainable, and the money is in entitlement. the problem is that one of our two parties has declared that it does not want to see any changes. nancy pelosi has said she will not accept cuts in medicare or social security. when fdr invented social security, life expectancy was 62. today, it is 80. it was intended to make sure that those few people who live beyond 65 did not enter destitution. now it means our adults are spending almost 1/3 of their working lives on retirement. when bismarck invented the pension in the '88 is, life expe

grover norquist is a good eggs with a very bad idea.sign up on this stuff, what i say to people, look, if -- now, grover can't murder ya, he is not that kind answered won't burn your house down, he is not that way. the only thing he can do to you is defeat you for re-election and if that means more to you than helping your country through a rocky time of fiscal disaster coming, then you shouldn't be in congress. that's what i tell them. homophobe, we all have -- we all know someone we know or love who is gay or lesbian. what is that about? and abortion is a horrible thing, but i practice real law with real human beings. that's deeply intimate and personal decision and i don't think men legislators should even vote on it. now, they might throw things at ya. i have been called a baby killer. i have been called everything. but in the course of it i found that most human beings feelize do, they have common sense they respect each other, they love each other, and they don't listen to guys who talk -- now, get gay marriage out of the scene. i

as far as the tax increase is concerned, what the purists who have signed grover norquist, for example, pledge, what they say is that there can be tax reform, you can eliminate certain deductions, certain subsidies, certain loopholes and you can lower the overall tax rates, but what they can't do, they can't see an mcin tax revenue in effect coming up. in other words, if you're going to eliminate loophole, you have to make sure when all is said and done, there is no increase in the amount of money that the government is getting from taxes. otherwise they would view that as a violation of that pledge no new taxes. in other words, there can't be an increase in the amount of tax money coming in from a change in the tax revenue. there can be an increase in the amount of tax revenue coming in from an improved economy. in other words, if there's greater prosperity and more people are working, more people as a result are paying taxes. there will be enhanced revenue from taxes, but they don't want to do that as a result of any changes what's called tax reform. >> and i was listening to your in

that, and i think almost all the republicans on this committee have made their pledge to grover norquist, i'm not sure what kind of progress you are going to have. >> let me ask you about the democratic side. of the six democrats that have been named, which one might give you pause that they could deal with the other side and who do you have confidence in? >> i certainly know of the three folks in the senate and they're all smart people and i know the house folks as well. i would simply hope that the democrats hang together and demand fairness and demand policies that help us create the kinds of jobs we desperately need in this economy. but we cannot continue to surrender to the republicans to say yes, we have a deficit problem, but we do not want the wealthiest people, billionaires' and billionaires', to contribute one penny more common toward want large corporations to contribute. it has to come completely out of the backs of working families, the sick and children. the democrats have to say that's not the case. that's not what the american people want. i hope the democrats hold fault

majority of americans agree with warren buffett or no the republicans in congress have signed grover norquist anti at x. pledge will still prevail. in dot com to let us know what you think the poll will be open until tomorrow morning. coming up the idea that corporations are people is spreading like a bad virus among republicans. unfortunately five of the nine members of the supreme court agree so how have corporations managed to whittle away the person who are the base that. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to create through thirty people made who can you trust no one who is in view with the global machinery see where are we heading state controlled capitalism is called sections when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. if corporations are really people the rest of us are screwed you may remember last week when mitt romney stepped in it by saying those. and there are various ways of doing that one is we could raise taxes on people that's the way that. corporations are people my friend we can raise taxes and of course they are everyt

this crisis the ones i see on the horizon the gas taxes expiring at the end of september grover norquist has already said that should be. the american people hostage or hold seven hundred thousand construction workers around the country hostage over. the his budget is coming up october is the fiscal year for the government super congress right the gang of twelve recommendations unemployment benefits for for people expire at the end of the year that the one year deal that president obama got. another one i would say that it's ridiculous notion to say. the republicans are the ones who are holding these things hostage in that you know they control only one third of the government you know they they don't have both houses they have the house all house side walks into a bank with a gun and he's the hostage taker you get a whole bag full of people you know these recent political games go on all the time so you can't say that it's a unique situation this is not unique situations what happens in every divided congress of course are going to have dissension and so the challenges for you know the

closing loopholes and in particular republicans who are slaves to their anti-tax overlord grover norquist. the only thing the grover can do to you he can't kill you you can't burn your house the only thing he can do to you is defeat true for reelection and if that means more to you than helping your country out of a terrible situation you ought to be there well said sen unfortunately that is all most of our elected representatives care about the bad. eric cantor period on fox so-called news yesterday the backstabbing house majority leader offered an interesting take on airlines that are now making big bucks off the f.a.a. being shut down with the f.a.a. shut down the agency can't collect taxes on the airlines but instead of passing those savings on to customers in the form of cheaper tickets the airlines of many of them anyway are just stashing the savings away in their corporate coffers and cantor thinks that's swell. what airlines have done is have stepped in and said well if we're not going to pay that money the federal government we're going to keep it towards our own bottom and i gue

host: but even brought -- but for her norquist says that as a tax increase. guest: i do not speak for it grover norquist. but i do not believe that we should raise taxes. we do not have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem. host: devi joins us from the democrats' line. you are on the air. caller: the first thing they got in there, put that bush tax cuts in there, and that was money was borrowed, and we are paying the interest on it. and yet they want to reduce the budget. why would they want to do that? guest: the bush tax cuts were extended during the last congress, with president obama and the democratic-controlled house and senate. it was not the tea party movement or the tea party freshman that pushed for that. but i do not think that we can bring in enough revenue by doing a tax increase. that is not our problem. the problem is spending. host: from the "atlanta journal- constitution." let me ask you about that tea party in all of this. speaker boehner, does he have control of his caucus and what role does the tea party have on the series of vote

budget cutting recession so is this the result of republicans who were representing gore grover norquist and his billionaire funders instead of working people in their districts and states all as daniel healthy and jamie weinstein that question and tonight's own little debate. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think. the the bill on the oil. we never got to that says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you're going to. freedoms. is what is it that i when i'm alone liberal and all begins to expert political commentators to debate the week's biggest stories on our panel tonight daniel helper at any online editor the weekly standard and jamie weinstein senior editor at the daily caller has a nice little piece about me in it is yes tuesday is very nice and you let's get started. number one market plunge five hundred one thousand points the second time this week that we've seen these bloodbath crashes over a thousand points or distance over fifteen hundred points for for what the last week and a half or so. we can have a year ago last september three hundr

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