i'm frankly not sure which is more frightening but if it is indeed the latter and norquist is calling for a coup it wouldn't be the first time in our nation's history and so when such an attempt was made against the white house by the super rich this is general smedley butler in the one nine hundred thirty s. he was one of the most famous retired marine general is in america he rallied the bonus army on the steps of the white house all the way down to the potomac he was well liked among the veterans in one nine hundred thirty four butler was approached by a banker in manhattan a guy by the name of gerald mcguire there was a plot in the works to throw franklin roosevelt out of office the newspapers called it the business plot mcguire wanted butler to lead an army of a half million men to march into d.c. and they were going to assemble in elkridge maryland and march to d.c. they were going to replace the elected president with a new fascistic or corporate run dictatorship mcguire knew the butler was the right guy veterans adored him they'd listen to him mcguire told butler that some of

this this is really quite extraordinary the militant malt multimillionaire lobbyist grover norquist. calling for the impeachment of the president because he and his rich buddies are the victim yes that's right president we're all a see that's exactly right that's the word that's if that's what they are i don't know if they think something like that sincerely but there's a nuff of that kind of stuff out there in the culture that i'm able to create a whole book called pity the billionaire about this you know this phenomenon this is a complete inversion of your usual sort of hard times symbolism ok so do they believe it and are they trying to sell it to average working people and our average working people by and they do believe this goes back to the very beginning of the tea party movement the very beginning of the obama administration they believe that they are the producer class or the job creator class if you will and that the rest of america is essentially some sort of parasites it's this is the all the symbolism from the one nine hundred thirty s. sort of reversed but otherwise it

the onion who i love they had their news stories and scandalous photos reveal grover norquist carried on secret affair with taxes for years which grover norquist runs for americans for tax reform he's the one to make somebody sign the pledge and why nothing gets done in congress because all the republicans are promised they will not do anything that will raise their taxes in any way because grover norquist they've basically promised they would but he was actually kind of cool about this sense that he then played a. long and gave a press conference take a look. in two thousand and four. drove. for the income taxes of. two thousand. at the height of what it's called quote her strongly served in the european stock. what do you say they would like to do that i mean i think anything for grover norquist anything that can make fun of that shed light on bring attention to the fact that he in his mind taxes are ridiculous he will take part in the onion is a widely read publication the onion t.v. is getting a lot more traction so i think that like you know i guess it it's kind of fun to see gro

grover norquist says that no tax increases under any circumstances.arren buffett says, the wealthy in this country can pay more and they should pay more. indeed, balancing the budget is a way for more economic growth down the line. who knows more about the american economy, grover norquist or warren buffett? >> who knows more about tax policy? the right course for america is not raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion will like to take more money from the american people, and they want to do that to continue to grow government. and the answer for america is cannot grow government, it is to shrink government. we have been going over the last 40 years, government grows faster than the economy relative to inflation. that is why i have a plan that reduces government spending. i cut programs, all series of programs, and the number one cut is obamacare, that size is $95 billion a year. return the state's whole series of programs, and said how much goes to them, and with regard to entitlement, i do n

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grover norquist or warren buffett? >> well, who knows more about tax policy?ure wre going to choose from the two of them. but i can tell you this the right course for america i not to raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion would like to take more money from the american people. and they want to do that so they can continue to grow government. but the answer for americas not to grow government, it is to shrink government. we've been going over the last 20, 30, 40 years, governmen keeps growing at a faster rate relative to inflation. we've got to stop the extraordina spending in this country. that's why i put out a plan that reduces vernment spending, i cut -- iut programs, a whole series of programs, by the way the number one cut is obama care. that saves $95 billn a year. just asick indicated, return to states a whole series of programs, foodstamps, housing vouchers, medicaid and set how muchoes to the and finally with regard to entitlement, i do not want change medicare and social security for curren

grover norquist or warren buffett? >> well, who knows more about tax policy?ing to choose from the two of them. but i can tell you this the right course for america is not to raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion would like to take more money from the american people. and they want to do that so they can continue to grow government. but the answer for america is not to grow government. it is to shrink government. we've been going over the last 20, 30, 40 years, government keeps growing at a faster rate relative to inflation. we've got to stop the extraordinary spending in this country. that's why i put out a plan that reduces government spending, i cut -- i cut programs, a whole series of programs, by the way the number one cut is obama care. that saves $95 billion a year. just as rick indicated, return to states a whole series of programs, food stamps, housing vouchers, medicaid, and then set how much goes to them. and finally with regard to entitlement, in the entitlement area, i do not want to cha

i was interviewing grover norquist. >> stephen: i've had him on. >> who is the man behind the no taxdge and he was going on and on about the estate tax and why it's a terrible thing. >> stephen: the test tax. >> which he calls the death tax and i was thinking there's too many statistics, it's dull, radio isn't good for statistics so i was thinking what am i going to ask him, what should i do with the interview? and suddenly i thought i heard him say that the morality of the death tax was like the morality of the holocaust and i thought whoa, did he they that? did i juster that? did that happen. >> stephen: that's a wakeup call. >> it's a wakeup call and so i actually said to him, excuse me, did you actually compare the holocaust to the estate tax? >> stephen: and he said? >> he said "no, i compared the morality of the death tax..." >> stephen: i'm not saying we're actually killing jews but it's very similar. (laughter) >> millions of lives, millions of dollars. >> stephen: exactly. exactly. they both have faces on them. (laughter) he's got a point. he's got a point. you went after pr

the gop tax-free ring leader grover norquist. obama condition sit there and let all the tax cuts lapse and then the republicans will have enough votes in the senate in 2014 to impeach. impeach? impeach the president for disagreeing with your policies? they are doing anything to disgrace this president. and i find it truly appalling. joining me now is msnbc analyst richard wolffe and david corn, msnbc political analyst and mother jones washington bureau chief. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> sure thing. >> richard, let me start with you. can you believe how low they're going? >> sadly, i can, yes, reverend. this has been going on for a very long time. and your opener was right in the sense that you linked together the strengths of the president with the sort of edge of these attacks because what we saw from day one was an arc straighted campaign of vilifcation of this president. he won big. he won in states that democrats didn't normally win in, and the strategy, the explicit strategy of mitch

and if they don't do it, kick 'em out. >> host: you describe having met grover norquist as a college republican, i believe ralph reed as well. >> right. >> host: describe the role these two men played in your life and the role they play now. >> guest: well, grover and i met, he was a student at harvard business school, i was a student at brandeis. i had just become the head of the college republicans up this, and grover was active in the organization. and together we organized massachusetts for the reagan campaign in 1980 and worked very hard and had all sorts of adventures and hi i didn't thinks that i wrote about in the book, some of which were pretty funny. basically, at the end of it we won massachusetts as a group everybody involved. but they were kind and generous enough to say we made the difference. we registered, gosh, several thousand absentee-balloted college republicans whose votes at the end of the day made a difference, a 3 or 4,000-vote victory in that state. so grover and i went true that together. -- through that together. after that grover suggested to me to run for

> host: government lawmakers signed the a clean up the government pledged not unlike the grover norquist's antitax pledge. why? >> guest: the pledge facilitative for members to sign or not, nobody can deny it's a factor. now i don't believe that the republicans aren't raising taxes according to grover's pledge. people forget not raising taxes is a primary tenet of the republican party so what he has done though is corporate ties it into an actual pledge so that if somebody breaks that to their constituents into their voters, they can hold them accountable. what i propose is a similar thing with good governance. let's come up with changes that are going to fix the system and let's say that they sign these pledge that they are going to vote for and cosponsored with everything they can to push through legislation that enacts these kinds of changes and frankly takes away their -- in terms of this lifeboat in congress and afterwards and hold them to it. if they don't do it, kick them out. >> host: you describe having met grover norquist as a college republican. describe what the role of these t

. >> host: you recommend a sign of a cleanup not unlike grover norquist anti-tax pledge. >> guest: one of the one supports for the tax reform facilitated for members to sign or not nobody could be nine. i don't believe they are not raising taxes. people forget that not raising taxes is a primary tenant in the republican party. so what he's done though is turned it into an actual pledge so that if somebody breaks that to their constituents and to the voters they can help them accountable. what i propose is similar things in the government. those who are running for the seats sign a pledge they're going to vote for and co-sponsor and do everything they can to push through legislation that enacts these kind of changes and frankly takes away their purposes in terms of this, and afterwards told them to the and if they don't come kick them out. >> host: you describe having grover norquist as a college republican. i believe ralph reed as well. describe the role that these men played in your life and the role that the plan now. >> guest: grocery and i met at harvard business school and i was a

years there's in fact there's this whole project was funded by a bunch of very wealthy people grover norquist heads it up the reagan legacy project one of their one of their explicit goals in addition to rewriting all the history about reagan or glossing over things like what you just saw is to make sure that in every county in america at least one building gets named after ronald reagan or one statue of gets put up when you look at his actual record he was he was no god he accounted for much of the destruction we see in our economy today and the few good things that he did today's republicans would be running away from. the republican candidates for president try to outdo each other over who's more like ronald reagan or at least the mythical ronald reagan was consummate governor scott walker's actually emulating reagan's legacy of busting up unions thirty years after reagan fired all the unionized air traffic controllers at co walker tried to dismantle public employee unions in wisconsin and go in so well for. more than a million signatures were collected to recall him from office and wednes

norquist is calling all the shots. ron paul and all the other republicans, we know they are part of the pledge, how can they help us? the republicans will continue to block and say no to every bill. romney has five sons. have they been at war? republicans to not want change. they only want to keep the 2% returns of they can't keep their bonuses. host: why do you say they are beholden to grover norquist? caller: because they have a pledge and every time a obama tries to get something going, they block it because norquist is calling the shots. host: a local story -- the candidate's head south with brass knuckles. charlotte, go to north carolina. a republican caller. what do you think about this contest as the race had south? caller: the lady that just spoke, i don't know what universe she is living in, but the republican house has been generating bills and the senate is the one to let it language and guy over there. we are running over 900 days without a budget and maybe she ought to take notice of that. when it comes to

norquist is calling all the shots. is it that ron paul and all the other republicans, when we know they are part of the pledge, how can they help us? republicans will continue to block and say no to every bill. . tt romney has five sons thi have they been to war? that is all i have to say. host: wide use it they are be holding to grover norquist? -- why do you say they are beholden to grover norquist? the story from south carolina. let's go to charlotte, north carolina. jim, republican calller. what do you think about the race? caller: the later you just spoke to. i do not know what alternative university has been on, but the house is generating bills and the senate has been controlled by democrats, and they are the ones that let them languish in died over there. we're running over 900 days without a budget. maybe she should take notice of that. when it comes to the south, folks down here are real strong when it comes to 10th amendment rights. we know we've voluntarily surrender sovereignty to the united states for the

which apparently is what they're up to that i say put them all on a remote island throw in grover norquist their lord and protector and let's just leave them there let them work it out some kind of a libertarian society no rules no government no welfare no not than you know no infrastructure sorta like lord of the flies right well let newton grover fight over who gets to play piggy nobody wants to pay into the into the into the system nobody wants to make it all work i think it is a perfect opportunity for the republicans to to demonstrate i mean you know one of the big questions one of the comments that's always been made is that there has never been in the history of the world a successful libertarian country there has never been in the history of the world a country that cut its way to prosperity so these guys think they can pull it off stick them on a desert island let them in a lot of do it and we'll let newton grover fight over who gets to play the role pig here on the island. powerball drawings are held every wednesday and saturday night see why you should start playing the lotto if

hour tonight host tom hartman will go into detail about multimillionaire republican lobbyist grover norquist supplant to impeach president obama the crimes against the one percent and then later he'll give a round up of the occupy wall street movement after a tumultuous weekend of protests so he better stick around about for us that will do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our t. don't calm usa and there you'll find my full interview with independent journalist who has been following the occupy wall street movement since it all started back on september seventeenth and he told me about what he's experienced as a journalist covering this movement also you should check out our youtube page we put almost all of our interviews and segments on there the address for that is you tube dot com slash r t america has to find out what i'm doing when i'm not on the air you can follow me on twitter at christine for is out hope you have a great night and we'll be back here tomorrow at four pm. oh she was that so much of an interview to be sitting on the board when we blockade the turning

happen something like that run and think whatever get it through it's almost like we need a grover norquist of our date as i knew this kind of flat right as opposed to which i was second one absolutely well former lobbyist jack everyone thanks so much for speaking with us today for having. and we're almost out of time of the capital account is up next on our t.v. we'll check in with laura lister to see what's on the agenda hi christine you know let me just start of the question if i was going to lend you money christine don't you think you'd expect to give me something in return you give me you know a little bit of interest or something that's normal right know because you're my friend who can i take all the time i wanted to pay it back to you and you'd be fine with it ok that is an extreme situation it's an abnormal circumstance and it's exactly what's going on with investors in germany and i don't think it's because investors just want to be friends with the german government christine but they are actually paying the german government to lend the german government money interest rates on

grover norquist, andy kramer, and chuck cunningham. thank you for joining us and we will be back with the next panel in a few minutes. thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> what you are looking at is a live picture from columbia, south carolina, the face -- the headquarters there. we are waiting for mitt romney's arrival to talk to his supporters, in what appears to be a second place finish in the primary there. it has been called by ap, and by all the networks, even though official tally has 7% of the votes in. mr. gingrich is up 37%. mitt romney at 32%. we are waiting for mahdavi for mitt romney to ride. you are watching live coverage here on c-span. after the candidates' speeches, we will open up our phone lines for your reaction to the south carolina finish. you can right now pose a comment on c-span's twitter page or on our facebook page. [crowd chanting "romney! romney !"] >> ladies and gentleman, governor mitt romney and mrs. ann

happen something like that run and think never get it through it's almost like we need a grover norquist of our date as i know it's kind of flat right as it was that i was i was the second one absolutely well former lobbyist back everyone thanks so much for speaking with us today for having. well a stern warning today to greece by germany and france that no more bail bailout funds will be given until greece agrees to some new rules and this is one of the decisions that came out of a meeting in berlin between german chancellor angela merkel and france french president nicolas sarkozy the euro zone's two leading powers but what's seen by some as the responsible older brother and sister in the eurozone trying to teach their younger and much more broke siblings a lesson is seen by others as overreaching actions by two countries trying to take advantage of the other more vulnerable ones in this time of need so what does this mean for the global economy and what are some of the other top financial issues of the day well earlier i spoke to dean baker co-director of the center for economic and p

with grover norquist and name them, man, oh, man, it's been fun, i love it. >> one more question on the politics before the debt issue. what does did say about the tea party, though? this was the great vaunted new element in the republican party. and at the end of the day, it seems like the republican party is, as it always does, is nominating the front-runner, the guy who's waited in line, the guy who's run before. and, you know, that fairly traditional hierarchical dynamic is at work. the tea party wasn't able to change it at all. >> well, republicans give each other the saliva test of purity. they like to give the saliva test of purity, and then they lose and then they just bitch for four years. it's amazing party. and i've watched it with some trepidation. but honestly, if that's what they're going to do again, this guy is not pure enough, not conservative enough, too liberal. then obama's a walk-in, and they know it. they're having fun watching this. >> so one of the central moment in the republican debates, the candidates are asked -- if you get $10 of spending cuts for $1 of tax

i was thinking, you know what he ought to do is take a page out of grover norquist's playbook and getim to sign one of those pledges. all of the congressional members are for 9-9-9. see how that works out for you. herman cain is optimistic, though. he released a promotional video for his new venture. >> they think we are stupid. well, you know what comes after a tea party? a revolution. it's time for history to repeat itself. we the people are coming. and we want our power back. welcome to the solutions revolution. victory. >> he's back. good luck, dude. you're going to need it. herman cain's big announcement, just another steaming slice of "psycho talk." >>> rick santorum is -- well, he's in damage control mode after pushing an ugly racial stereotype on the campaign trail. he's denying it ever happened. but we have the tape. you can be the judge. joan walsh and michael eric dyson will join me next. >>> and indiana governor mitch daniels joins john kasich and scott daniel in attacking unions. will it work in the hoosier state in state democratic leader pat bower will join me and expla

he does not support the repeal of obama care answered refused to sign that grover norquist antitax pledge'm not going to sign pledges written by political insidersers in washington, d.c. that i don't even know. i'm not answering to that person. they are not voting for me. they are not my constituent. >> and they may help him with the independents but could hurt him with his base. we will know tomorrow. >> shepard: dan springner seattle. they are lived in iraq use of spy drones over parts of that country one month after the last combat from the left. state department plans to ramp up surveillance drone program there the reason? to help protect workers at the u.s. embassy in baghdad. thousands and thousands of them. senior iraq official reportedly blasted the united states for not consulting with the iraqi government first, telling "new york times" and i quote: our sky is our sky. not the u.s.a.'s sky. meanwhile, a top pentagon official says the white house is preparing to start talks soon with iraq on a new long-term security relation. and the deadly violence there continues in the souther

schoolyard or post office or a tree or whatever in every county in america after ronald reagan is grover norquists the republican party's chief anti-tax enforcer. there is sort of an interesting coalition of interest here around making ronald reagan into a paradigm of anti-tax doctrine. the very same people pushing the doctrine, they conscripted ronald reagan in that as the chief icon for them if their pursuit. >> was he trying, eric cantor, trying to file off a few edges in this interview? >> you know, i can't say because i haven't seen the rest of the interview. >> well, it sure seemed to me like he was. this was a new image that he was trying to portray. is he going after john boehner's job? >> i don't know if he is yet. john boehner looks a bit weaker. over the last four months or so, republicans from mitch mcconnell to john boehner to eric cantor have been trying to put forward a more conciliatory tone because the ratings for congress are incredibly low now. gallup said congress ended the year with the lowest ratings ever, 11%. lower than the democrats in 2010 before they lost 60-some seats.