presidency, they don't control the house, they don't control the senate, they don't control gov norships, they don't control state legislatures. this may be the largest largest-- disconnect between majority rule and majority power that we have had in this country in ages. and i'm in no way saying and like-- and i'm responsible. but what i am saying is there is a comfort in culture that can be mistaken for real power. there is only two towns in the world that i have ever been in that i thought were delusional. one was washington d.c., the other was los angeles. and the only difference between los angeles and washington is in los angeles they actually believe they have power. but d.c., like that's where it is, man. and the irony of this election-- . >> rose: d.c. they have power. l.a. they just believe they have power. >> that's correct. >> rose: but it is the same-- are you saying in a sense that whatever we're saying about culture, and the influence you have on the culture, in the end it's not political power. and in the end it's not. >> yeah. and in the end it's not real cultural influe