cramer is turning to north dakota for the latest. holiday hustle. while registers are ringing, others are left out in the cold. tonight, an exclusive look at luxury with the ceo of saks fifth avenue. but investors cooled on the stock and sent its shares into the fryer, is this a value meal or has wall street lost its appetite for fast food? don't miss cramer's take, just ahead. all coming up on "mad money." >>> everybody is fretting about the fiscal cliff. until we get a deal. i got more negative when harry reid said it is unlikely that a deal will be done by christmas. i'm thrilled to have senator john hovan, a republican from north dakota who has been an advocate for bipartisan consensus here with us tonight. welcome back to "mad money." >> jim, good to be with you. >> i noticed that you are for a bipartisan situation and one of the things that tells me you are for real is that you have not signed a pledge that would make it so that you can't vote for a tax increase. it should be a big deal on the order of four trillion dollars over ten years. tha

heidi heitkamp, a 57 year old democrat, will be north dakota's first elected female senator.general in the 1990s and most recentl was a director at a natural gas firm in her state. she defeated republican congressman rick berg by just under 3,000 votes and replaces retiring democrat kent conrad. she joins us from fargo. senator-elect welcome and congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> brown: it looks as though one of the first things you might face in office is what to do in the aftermath of the newtown shootings. you come from a strong second-amendment state. you yourself received an "a" ting from the n.a.utou spoke of possible changes to our gun laws. what changes specifically can you support now? >> well, i think we have to step back from all of this discussion and start really trying to examine what happened in connecticut and why it happened in connecticut. i also am a very staunch proponent of looking at our mental health system in this country and started a dressing those concerns as well. during the time that i was attorney general was also the time of columbine, th

home base and then flying those new employees -- weekly -- to north dakota.t 2.4% north dakota has the lowest unemployment rate in the nation and currently has 22,000 open positions across the state. a special blend of gasoline could case trouble under the hood. triple a is calling on the epa to suspend the sale of e-15, a blend of gasolne containing 15% ethanol and sold mostly in corn belt states. triple a contends using the fuel could both damage cars and void automaker warranties. the epa approved the new gasoline in june. already, manufacturers including toyota and volkswagen have said their warranties will not cover fuel related claims. the l-a auto show continues this week and already, a number of energy efficient vehicles have made their debut. but a number of automakers are saving their best surprises for the north american international auto show in detroit in january. dave guilford is an editor for automotive news. "each auto show has their own hometown thing. la has asian automakers with headquarters in la, detroit has the big 3, in fact, chevy wil

and i was proud of that victory and proud to have a chance to represent north dakota here. i think we all know that our country needs a plan now. and we know that plans have worked before. i was here in 1993 when we had just come off the largest deficit in the history of the united states, the country was in doldrums, the economy was just plugging along, not doing very well, just had a weak recovery from a deep recession. and we passed a plan to get the country back on track. we did it the old fashioned way. we made tough decisions, some that were unpopular, but it was the right thing to do and it worked. we balanced the budget, we had the longest period of uninterrupted economic growth in the nation's history, 23 million jobs were created, and we were actually paying down the debt of the united states at the end of the clinton administration. and we did it again when disaster struck my state in 1997, one of the worst disasters ever in north dakota, a 500-year flood that followed the worst winter storm in 50 years, many of you may recall the images from that disaster when f

the presiding officer: the senator from north dakota. mr. conrad: mr. president, let me add my words of commendation to those of senator coats for senator lugar. i've often joked with him that he's been my secretary of state while i've served here in the united states senate because you could count on senator lugar to give good, unbiased advice on complicated foreign relations issues. and we will very much miss senator lugar's voice here in the united states senate and also his better half, char lugar, who i think we all know is a bright light. so, senator lugar, it has been an honor and a privilege to serve with you, and i know that your voice will continue to be heard on the important issues of the day. so thank you for your service to our country and to your state, and thank you for being a good friend to me. mr. president, we have this long tradition in the senate of senators giving farewell remarks. i want to alert colleagues that mine will be especially long, so you might want go have lunch and then come back. so i don't consider this

and look at north dakota is number one. >> north dakota because they have all the energy and they need lot of people to harvest that. >> that would be the fat chic with the bad skin who has to work twice as hard in order to get the date on a saturday night. that's what that is. >> bill: i have been to north dakota and there is lovely scandinavian dissen dance up there. >> nobody wants to live. >> it's cold. california we have been getting by on our looks for a long time. >> bill: it's beautiful. you have the mountains and the oceans. you mucked it up. you ought to run for governor and unmuck it. >> well, you know what? carolla in 20 -- i don't know what the date even rubbing. -- run aring. who is the governor? i can't believe jerry brown is running this state. >> bill: it's insane. i like the governor he doesn't have control of the situation. arnold did a horrible job. you are going to be on leno tomorrow night. this is interesting. carolla on leno tuesday night. paving the way for my appearance on thursday night. so this is nice of you to go on and tell everybody i'm coming. >> i am g

because it could happen in more states, there is more oil than just in north dakota. come back anytime. we love having you out there again. thank you so much. good man, thank you for being on the show. >> it has to do with spirit people, there is no rancor there. pro growth gets the job done. after the break. i'll try to make some money. >> coming up, holiday hustle. while the registers are ringing in some shops. others are left out in the cold. tonight he has a look at the luxury shopper with the ceo of sacks 5th avenue. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop mother-to-child transmission. our employees and their families are part of the fight. and we're winning. at chevron nigeria, we haven't had a reported ca

there are $200,000 jobs in north dakota in the oil field.ould tip into paying to move the bankers to north dakota. >> by the way, on bailouts in terms of banks, there are established procedures, if you have good collateral, you get a short term loan and get over the cash crisis. that is what they should have done in 20078 instead of putting in equity capital. >> neil: coming up next. >> kick the can road down the road for too long. >> we're not going to be able to solve it by kicking the can down the road and doing all the gimmicks in the past. >>> they say they don't wanted to kick the can but steve forbes that is exactly what washington should do. this is flip side. you do not want to miss. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] a full life measured in seats starts with the right ones early on. car crashes are the number one killer of children 1 through 13. learn how to prevent deaths and injuries by using the right car seat for your child's age and size. >>> asking folks to allow us to kick the can down the road further and that we don't want to do. >>

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in north dakota is you have like negative unemployment because they have an oil boom going on -- >> and a population that's smaller than it was in the '30s. >> i saw a poll today out of south carolina where the president's approval rating is 48%. >> that's good. >> yeah that's very good. the fact is the republicans have been very much with out of touch with a lot of issues. right now that figure, 61%, don't want to raise taxes to close the deficit. that's because deficit closing is only an issue here and on the upper east side of new york. >> i know. david, last thought, what did you holistically look at the election, the anecdotal, cultural statements? >> looking back in 2010, we won women in 2010, house republicans. back in 2010 we got 38% of the hispanic vote, 28% this time. what was it we were not saying and engaging economic issues and trying to win the economic issue. we just did not do that. as a result it wasn't the specific group slipping. it was collectively we did not make the economic argument like we should have. >> it worked in the first debate. stay on the line you're

specialist tyler orguard of bismarck, north dakota, joined the north dakota national guard shortly before his 2011 graduation from bismarck century high school, where he was a member of the century patriots wrestling team and began competing in the impact fighting championships. he was passionate about training in mixed martial arts and his family and friends knew him to be an extremely disciplined, hardworking man who served his country with great pride. this was specialist orguard's first overseas deployment. for his commendable service, he has been awarded the bronze star medal, purple heart, army good conduct medal, and national defense service medal. specialist orguard is survived by many loving friends and family, chug his parents, josephine and jesse orguard. for the service and sacrifice of these brave men, we offer our thanks. we pledge to honor their lives through our commitment to supporting our troops and veterans and by remembering their lives of service. my wife, mikie and i also join our fellow north dakotans and americans in extending our deepest sympathy to the families o

after graduating from college, he worked for north dakota state -- for the north dakota state tax commission the person that ran that tax commission was byron dorgan who later joined him in the senate. in 1980, kent succeeded byron as the commissioner of taxes in north dakota. they are best of friends. he served as tax commissioner for six years. he's a fifth generation north dakotan, born in bismarck. kent conrad was raised by his grandparents. when he was 5 years old, his parents were killed by a drunk driver. so he was raised by his wonderful grandparents. he has told me so many times about how good they were to him. he was always interested in politics. at his retirement party, he talks about coming here to washington, d.c., and he went back to his room or wherever he went that evening and wrote on a piece of paper that he was going to be a united states senator. he was just a boy, a little kid. he was -- he was a teenager but he was still a little kid, at least in my view of a 16-year-old today. he said he wanted to be a senator to himself. it so inspired me, and i quote kent conrad, th

by definition of infrastructure, a lot of our oil for example is located in north dakota. >> right. >and right now if you had to sell your oil in north dakota there's a very severe price discount relative to other locations, particularly along the gulf coast. and so we've got a crude by rail system where we take our north dakota oil and rail car it down to louisiana. and we get a very significant price uplift in the range of about $20 a barrel price uplift. and we were the innovators of this first in the industry to do this again. and it's given us a huge first mover price advantage. but i wouldn't claim that it's worth the value of the entire market cap of our company. >> okay. i just know a lot of companies are selling these divisions that transport it. one last question. will natural gas prices ever rebound giving in your presentation you say over and over again we keep finding it everywhere. >> yeah. in terms of when gas prices will rebound, eog is one of the more bearish in terms of gas price forecasts. i believe gas prices will rebound from 2012 price levels which were abnormall

. >> north dakota senator kent conrad said goodbye to the senate on thursday. he chaired the senate budget committee and is involved in the fiscal deadline negotiations. senator conrad was elected to the u.s. senate in 1986. >> i have often joked with him that he has been my secretary on state and i have served here int the united states senate because he could count on senator dick lugar to give good and unbiased advice on complicated formulation issues. we will very much missed senator lugar's voice in the united states senate, and also his hal, better half, charlotte, who i bt think we all know is a bright w ceite. senator, it has been an honor and privilege to serve with you, and i know that your voice will continue to be heard on important issues of the day.o i think you for your service to, our country and to your state, and thank you for being a good friend to me. mr. president, we have this long tradition in the senate by alert senators giving farewell remarks and i would like to alert that a my remarks will be especially long. becau you may want to hav

there's a state bank in north dakota and it's been around since 1919. out of the populous progressive movement. >> the republican government was successful. it's provided $313 million to the state in the last ten years. it hasn't been corrupt. in fact, it weathered the financial crisis much better than the public banks. >> it produces loans t lends through small banks in the state to borrows in the state. california is considering it and oregon is considering it. >> get the governments out of banks. why is it -- >> i'm going to stipulate these small examples. it's great that they work and i'm not opposed to those self-contained ones. what i would say is i actually think one of the lessons of the 2008 fng crisis is it is actually really dangerous to have the state and politicians have a direct state in major lending institutions because then you have major moral hazards. and the politicians do, too. >> are you referring to fanny and freddie? >> a lot of the europe european state-owned bank have a huge crisis. it's the tip of the iceberg is the european f

. >> reporter: senator kent conrad of north dakota raises concerns about the cost of securing schools the way lapierre proposes. >> we'll have 130,000 elementary and secondary schools in this country. two officers in each would cost $25 billion. where's that money coming from? >> reporter: his senate colleague chuck schumer of new york thinks the nra's position will only help lawmakers who want more stringent gun regulation. >> well, i think he's so extreme and tone deaf he actually helps the cause of us passing sensible gun legislation in congress. >> reporter: friday president obama assembled a task force to reduce gun violence and wants concrete proposals in a month. ideas on the table include an assault weapons ban and limiting the number of bullets a magazine can hold. in washington steve centanni, fox news. >>> a perfect sunday to round out the weekend, but now is the christmas holiday going to shape up? >> a last look at the forecast. gwen? >> today was wonderful, plenty of sunshine and light winds, but things are changing. current temperatures, 37 d.c., 25 manassas, 25 annapol

. >>> an exploded oil well in north dakota spouse out oil tonight. it hap -- spews out oil tonight.happened yesterday. officials say they kruked an emergency -- constructed an emergency berm. the company doesn't know what caused the rupture. >> this is a new well that had been on production for a little while. and we are doing work on the well. it is still under investigation. >> company says at this point they don't know how much oil spilled. >>> california's population growth is holding steady between july of 2011 and july of 2012. 250,000 people. it brings the california population to 37.8 million people. >>> a decision could be on the horrizer over the fate of -- horizon over the fate of hanger 1. officials say brace for a big decision over the future. the obama administration may be ready toaccept a deal -- to accept a deal to restore hanger one in exchange for a long term lease and use of the runways. if that doesn't happen nasa may leave because of the cost of operating. >> nasa is preparing to end two long missions. they began circling the moon a year ago. this is animation

putting the distrt in second place nationwide for its growth rate behind only north dakota. the growth continues the trend in recent yeaears, and the mar is welcoming the news saying it is a statement that people are voting with their feet and responding t to improvements in education, infrastructure, and city services. will have our roundtable right after the break. first, the federal hot minute. >> the business of government is going through a dynamic change driven by sequestration and other trends. there is no shortage of articl on research of the topic. the president of the professional services council urges the department of defense not to repeat the mistakes made in the early '90s when cut were made across the board and the work force was disproportionately impacted. he urges the cuts should now be more strategic. the story on how it is having a negative impact on the profit of vendors selling to the fed's. therefore, it should be no surprise when you see the results of another survey put out by mamarket connections which shows how government contractors arare seeking

you go, north dakota!. >>next up a request to send 1.5 dal billion in aid to syria.l throw money at the problem make it go away or is the time coming to take some real action? >>> speaking of billions of dollars, that's about how much it is going to cost our economy every day in the a union makes good on its n threat after port strike. will uncle sam have to step up and break the picket line "pil of money" coming up. melissa: turning to the middle east and syria, the united nations wants $1.5 billion to provide life-saving aid up to a million syrian refugees the magnitude of this humanitarian crisis is indisputable but how and to whom should this money be distributed? with me now is walid phares, fox news's middle east expert. welcome back to the show. >> thank you. melissa: we look at the video of everything that is going on there and especially you see the horrifying pictures of kids crying and running and you know so many ople need help and need food. >> yes. melissa: and you want to do something but it's very difficult to figure how, you know, especially when you

north dakota which steve mentioned the fracking boom, it is below 5%. it is astonishing. >> it is 3%. >> so what about steve where do you think this is going? we are going to see now over the next two, three, four years. >> n ao doubt about it. >> what laboratories work and whatou laboratories don't. >> no question about it. i think this is the big story in america, paul. i was i talking about the red states getting reder, the blue states like california and new york and, my home state of illinois got bluer. republicans are endangered species in those states. and now you have a very sharp contrast. it is an almost economic vulcanization. california passed a massive tax increase, and i think more so than any other time in our lifetime, paul, you will see a very divergent path taken by states like california that are very liberal, and some of the states in the south that will promote tax cuts, reductions in pension class, and i think it will be a real experimente to see which models work. >> do you predict california will not get down from the jobless rat

north dakota has the lowest.york and california with all kinds of oil under their feet and they won't take it. >> that's right. you have groups of using the legal system, trying to up suits either prevent this from happening or tighten up regulations will bring regulation fugh to the federal level. it's a shame. as you know, these towns that have really been very -- hit very hard would do very well if we expanded this practice. tom: it would provide jobs, money, taxes and all that. laughlin from the heritage. thank you. appreciate. >> thank you for adding me. tom: well, martin class by a teacher with no class. of for wearing a mitt romney t-shirt. now this girl is taking this -- taking a stand by making her school take the stand. the court battle you will believe. ♪ >> to tell me to get out of the class. i said, no poor because in the hallway. that's like wearing a kkk shirt because she knows nothing about a. tom: she claims her teacher martyr. now our family is suing. the lawsuit is claiming the philadelphia sch

north dakota has the lowest.ork and califoia with all kinds of oil under their feet and they won't take it. >> that's right. you have groups of using the legal system, trying to up suits either prevent this from happening or tighten up regulations will bring regulation faugh to the federal level. it's a shame. as you know, these towns that have really been very-- hit very hard would do very well if we expanded this practice. tom: it would provide jobs, money, taxes and all that. laughlin from the heritage. thank you. appreciate. >> thank you for adding me. tom: well, martin class by a teher with no class. of for wearing a mitt romney t-shirt. now this girl is taking this -- taking a stand by making her school take the stand. the court battle you will believe. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i cane in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acti

keeping the snow at bay and staying warm will be a challenge across the midwest like here neer north dakota. look at these videos showing the storm front moving over the hawkeye state. in oklahoma this family is getting ready for the winter buying coats to keep warm. bradley shaw and his family stopped at a hardware store to pick up a blanket for their dog. brad likes the cold weather. >> i really do. >> new details tonight in a daring rescue in afghanistan. how constitutional forces pulled a doctor free after he was abducted by armed militants. also a new study smoking a cigarette while drinking can intention my a hangover. >> a record day for 49ers and reaction from today's game coming up in sports. >> an honor and record setting temperatures. i'm meteorologist sandhya patel. i'll let you know if >> ama: scientists have created a pace make for the brain. the device deeply sometime late the brain to keep neurons active. procedure can slow memory loss and dementia. researchers begin the process on their first patient. they hope to try it out on 40 patients over the next year. need for an al

joining me for more is republican senator john hoeven of north dakota. and very simply, sir, we appreciate you being here but is harry reid right? are we going off the cliff? >> well, adam i hope he is not right. at this point president obama indicated he is going to call and talk to our leader, mitch mcconnell, senator mcconnell and make a proposal. we're very interested to see what that proposal is. we put revenues on the table. there needs to be some savings. and i believe we can get a deal so let's go. adam: what will the do look like? the president at one point actually upped what he was willing to tax. he wants taxes. originally saying on incomes of 250,000 and up. then he went to 400,000. what kind of compromise do we need from both side to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep boring people with this term fiscal cliff? >> right. to really get the deal done right you need about 4 troll trillion to get us back on track. that means pro-growth tax reform, entitlement reform and better control of savings of the proposals at this point are not a

. >> look at indiana, where it's also low, and-- yeah, north dakota, which by the way, steve mentioned know, the fracking boom going up there. and i think it's below 5%, it's astonishing. >> paul: it's 3%. >> yes. >> paul: so, what about, steve, where do you think this is going? i mean, we've got, you know, the states are supposed to be laboratories are democracy and we're going to see the next two, three, four years. >> no doubt about it. >> paul: what laboratories work and what laboratories don't. >> no question about it. i think the big story in america, paul, just as i was talking about the red states getting redder, the blue states like california and new york, my home state of illinois got bluer, republicans are kind of endangered species in those states and now, you have a very sharp contrast, an almost economic vulcanization that's going on in america, states like california massive, cap and trade and more so than any other time in our lifetime, paul, you're going to see a divergent path taken by states like california that are very liberal, and states in the south and mountain

north dakota has the lowest. of oil under their feet and they won't take it. >> that's right. you have groups of using the legal system, trying to up suits eier prevent this from happening or tighten up regulations will bring regulation faugh to the federal level. it's a shame. as you know, these towns that have really been very -- hit very hard would do very well if we expanded this practice. tom: it would provide jobs, money, taxes and all that. laughlin from the heritage. thank you. appreciate. >> thank you for adding me. tom: well, martin class by a teacher with no class. of for wearing a mitt romney t-shirt. now this girl is taking this -- taking a stand by making her school take the stand. the court battle you will believe. when some people struggle with their mortgage payments, they become frozen, petrified. not knowing what to do, they do nothing, but the people who do something, the people who take action, are far more likely to get the most positive outcome. making home affordable is a free government p

north dakota has the lowest.ithll kinds of oil under their feet and they won't take it. >> that's right. you have groups of using the legal system, trying to up suits either prevent this from happening or tight up regulations will bring regulation faugh to the federal level. it's a shame. as you know, these towns that have really been very -- hit very hard would do very well if we eanded this practice. tom: it would provide jobs, money, taxes and all that. laughlin from the heritage. thank you. appreciate. >> thank you for adding me. tom: well, martin class by a teacher with no class. of for wearing a mitt romney t-shirt. now this girl is taking this -- taking a stand by making her school take the stand. the court battle you will believe. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking

. >>> north dakota oil production rises to a record 23.1 million barrels in november!ate department of mineral resources says that is up more than a million barrels just from september! you go, north dakota!. >>> next up a request to send 1.5 dal billion in aid to syria. will throw money at the problem make it go away or is the time coming to take some real action? >>> speaking of billions of dollars, that's about how much it is going to cost our economy every day in the a union makes good on its new threat after port strike. will uncle sam have to step up and break the picket lines? "piles of money" coming up. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? m

it's got the weather of north dakota and the racial harmony of mississippi!laughter) >> indiana didn't take michigan's jobs, all right? michael moore ate them! (laughter) >> jon: now that both indiana and michigan have the exact same right to work laws, though, how are you going to differentiate yourselves? >> right to work? jon, come on, that is so 11 months ago. indiana's latest pro-business measure is the workplace safety act. any business that relocates here gets to dump whatever they want wherever they want for free. lakes, rivers, wetlands. they take all factories toxic slurry. >> jon: you call that workplace safety act. >> studies show poisoning the environments cuts workplace beaver bites down to zero. no more raccoon maulings or slipping on the o *d toad on a factory floor. dow chemical is very interesting. >> that's no match for michigan's latest pro-business measure. work force education. >> jon: yeah, i'm going to guess that's not really educating workers, is it? >> it's the opposite! if your business needs cheap workers to pull long hours, michig

. >>> the three cities with the lowest unemployment are all in north dakota. fargo was best with 2.8. grand forks at 3.1%. the key -- large state universities which tend to provide relatively stable jobs. >>> james bond edged out the easter bunny and other this is weekend. dwt skyfall" went back to the top of the list. "the rise of the guard yans" was right behind. and "the twilight saga, breaks dawn part 2" was third. >> sadly, i have seen all of them. >> i've seen none. >>> when we come back, the australian deejays saying sorry for the royal prank that went so terribly wrong. >>> late dram pla from the nfl. lots of teams in the playoff sunt. >>> 700 runners braved the cold in boston for the annual santa speedo run. making a mad dash for charity in skimpy trunks and bikinis. tampa held a similar run. it was near 80 degrees. >>> now for a look at the morning road conditions. slick roads across northern new england, snow-covered passes in the northern rockies. >>> if you're flying, airport delays possible in minneapolis, along the northeast corridor, charlotte,

. >> it is new development in the oil patch but if you look at oil production in north dakota, we simply don't have pipeline to move that oil east and west coast where we have significant amount of refining capacity. adam: what saying invest in who? the rail coanies that ship oil or the companies that actually make steel for the tracks? what do i do with my money? >> well we actually have both of them. in fact on the railroad front we have burn link ton northern owned by berkshire hathaway but other winners in this will be the union pacific, the kansas city southern. up in canada we have both the canadian pacific and canadian national who are looking to double their rail shipments of crude oil next year. adam: is this an efficient way to ship oil? there has to be cheaper way to do this? i would imagine an investor who can get in on that would make even more money? >> no doubt it is much more expensive to move oil by tanker car rather than pipeline but the fact of the matter is we're not going to build any pipelines from north dakota through the rockies over to california. nor are we goin