you know, in north dakota, there were articles in the "new york times" about superfund sites in north dakota. that is interesting from people who have never been there. everyone sent their kids there, they hunted and fished there. if you don't like the outdoors, it is not the right place for you. go to an offshore rig in the gulf and see where the fish are swimming. they are swimming around the offshore rig. they are clean. we do this better than anyone else, and we have to acknowledge the fact that it does not matter where you are at in the world, the world needs this stuff, and if we are not producing it, our strategic adversaries on the world stage are going to be the ones doing it. brigham: i think that is a very valid point, and one of the things we are researching now as we talk about america being the arsenal of democracy during two world wars, but we are also the arsenal of energy supply during those two world wars, we powered the allied efforts in both world wars. and i'm literally sitting in the former no man's land between east and west germany right now. this is where this

by way of introduction in north dakota, he spent your entire life in north dakota, you understandusiness and government policy, you're with the state for selected congress in 2018. a state that has abundant supplies of natural resources, not just energy but the agricultural front so it is an honor to have you with us today. >> thanks for having me, this should be fun. >> absolutely and i'm a senior fellow and director of hudson institute initiative on american energy security. congressman is in washington d.c., i'm in berlin, germany attending an innovation seminar, global seminar on pipeline infrastructure. you are by way of introduction, vice chair of the commerce committee and the house on several subcommittees including those relating to the galatian of innovation, food, drug safety and energy and it makes you a busy popular man. >> i don't know about popular but busy for sure. >> getting into it and i appreciate you joining us, one of the initiatives is to come up with energy security strategy that takes a look at domestic energy policy and the policy is very important and national

you like north dakota. you like wheat or bread, north dakota is important.ou like turning on the light switch and the lights come on, north dakota is important. we have an opportunity to allow u.s. companies and ingenuity to lead the world into the 21st century energy mix and we should not shirk ourselves from that responsibility. we should be happy warriors. i think we are in a weird place right now because of strategic things that have happened between ukraine and russia. the rest of the world has caught on to natural gas and what this looks like. we just have to get d.c. to act quicker. brigham: words to the wise. thank you for your time today. we appreciate it, we know how busy you are. i have been to your state several times and can vouch for how beautiful it is. rep. armstrong: it's a great place, come in the summer. the winter can get tough. brigham: thank you again for joining us. that is congressman and vice airman, thank you. >> tuesday on c-span, the hou is back at 10:00 a.m. eastern for general speeches. at noon, members begin work on three polic

townley, tried to come in to dakota, he d th border near britain, which is in north central south dakota. they were basicall escorted of physal violence.hreat of and when they tried to meet in the town hall in wentworth the city would not let him use the town. and some supporters of, the npl were actually tarred, feathered, as you can see here. that's what happened to a farmer from near mitchell. tarred and feathered otherwise naked drag, behind a wagon for miles. now guy was from luverne, minnesota, a farmer. he was a npl member. he told to leave. they took him to the iowa border and told him not to come back. he snuck back in and helped with the harvest. they captured again. they tarred and, feathered him. and the people that did this to and were put on trial and they were acquitted. it was all part of this level of patriotism that had gone off the rails. so didn't until i was researching this, i didn't know that anyone in the 20th century had been tarred and feathered. it happened right here in the midwest. now things change. when america gets into the war, remember the phrase wilson

and focuses on that, and he is determined that he is going to get me. >> back in north dakota, davidcking information, the murder, the revelation of swinging, and now, joan was telling them that she had become a suspect, to which they replied, joan? not a chance. >> we tried to play the scenario, did you don't have a part in it? none of us can see that she could possibly have done that. it is just not in her nature to do that. she cannot. >> but brenda did have somebody else in mind. >> now elizabeth, i could see. >> elizabeth? shannon's a 15 year old daughter? is it possible she was a cold blooded killer who executed her very own stepfather? the man who adopted her, raised, are provided for her? maybe, said david's sister brenda. daisy and elizabeth were always trouble, said brenda, and when elizabeth hit her teens watch out. >> david and joan did not have the tools needed to deal with what those two girls dished out. it was boys, drugs, and violence. if she got angry with somebody she would destroy something of others. >> that was hardly elizabeth view of things. she conceded that

parents in a north dakota school district say educators are keeping them in the dark about their kid'stity despite the fact it is against the law. >> there is no possible way for each teacher to know every kid as intimately as their parents do. >> how do you know any parent will react unless you talk to them. why do you assume to know more about our kids than we do? >> you support the school keeping secrets from parents, is that what you vote on? i sure hope not. i sure hope not. you need to grow a backbone. >> todd: that was a father in the district and part of redemption road ministry for north dakota adult and teen challenge and joins me now. brad, great to have you here. what is your reaction being told by school bureaucrat he or show knows what is best for your child and not you? >> well, it is ludicrous they think they know our children better than we do. i don't know about that. it is just wrong and starts with leadership. superintendent of the school board about we need to do this and concern for the kids and suicide rates of kids coming out and parents will banish them. he dre

used. 226 approved permits on federal land and 166 approved permits on indian land in h north dakota so i'm happy -- >> by your regulation or the courts would have to litigate, you don't get lease and produce it the next a day. would you agree with that. >> of course and that's why when the applications were permits come in to the department, our staff works hard to remove those and they have done that since january, 2021. they've moved applications. forward and that's the reason there's nearly 7000 unused permits in our country. >> wire energy prices higher at the pump? >> there's a lot that goes into determining the cost. i think you know that as well. >> the consumer so pulls up the pump and sees a lot more. >> i understand, i raise my child is a single mom, i know what it's like to not have enough money to pay your rent or student loans and buy groceries, i get that and that's why we are working hard at the department to move our goals forward and move the issues forward. there are 226 approved permits on federal land in north dakota. >> federal district judge now ordered you con

_ governor of north dakota wants to get in the — governor of north dakota wants to get in the race, the race, let alone for many jersey during governor chris christie _ jersey during governor chris christie so we could find ourselves in a situation where we have ten, 12, in a situation where we have ten, 12. 14 _ in a situation where we have ten, 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat iri— 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat in the — 12, 14 republicans throwing their hat in the ring to seek republican nomination. i would sit this could be nomination. i would sit this could he a _ nomination. i would sit this could he a repeat— nomination. i would sit this could be a repeat of 2016 with the more republicans that get in the better it looks _ republicans that get in the better it looks for mr trump for his bid to become the — it looks for mr trump for his bid to become the next president of the united _ become the next president of the united states because he will keep his supporters with him and a lot of those _ his supporters with him and a lot of those will— his supporters with hi

i just got back this morning from north dakota. i'm going there because this state is a gem for investment. it's got good policy. right across the river from fargo is a town called morehead. >> sean: i've been there. >> 25 yes, listen to this, everybody, you don't even have to get into politics to understand what happened here. you got minnesota, with a river, separating from north dakota. you've got morehead, 25 years ago, had 50,000 people in it, 25 years ago, fargo had 50,000 people. today, you've got 260,000 people living in far go, you've got microsoft's second largest campus, massive arts, biotech, energy businesses, but wait, go across the river, only 200 yards, you step out, it looks like cuba. there are only 30,000 people left in morehead. the difference is minnesota policy and north dakota policy. that's the difference. and here's why. you're a nurse, you cross the bridge. you only pay 2% in taxes. >> sean: smart move. congrats on the show. love having you. when we return, my interview with the two brothers at the center

right now, you've issued a draft resource management plan that affects my state of north dakota. it will block 45% of the, of the potential federal oil and gas acreage and 95% of the federal coal acreage. she asked the question, why would you waste your time on lands that will not be leased for energy? but why are you blocking the development on lands that can produce energy at a time when gasoline prices are higher and we need more electricity and more baseload dependability for our grid? and you are blocking the federal leases that we need to produce energy. why is that? sec. haaland: senator, i would say that there is a process that we go through when we think about the leases that we have the lease sales that we have to have. it isn't so much blocking as it issing what lands are available and which lands should be up for lease. sen. hoeven: but you are not putting them up for lease. you not only are blocking development, you've raised royalty rates and as a result, energy prices are higher. why wouldn't you allow our energy producers to produce more energy here at home to bri

both have since been reinstated in georgia in north dakota governor doug bergman signed into law thetrictest abortion bans, making abortions illegal in most it since his unless it was caused by rape or incest in the first six weeks of pregnancy. that is earlier than most women even realize that they are pregnant. and here is the authoritarian twist, republicans passed that abortion ban one month after north dakota supreme court blocked a different abortion ban in the state. in effect, north dakota republicans are trying to go around the digicel system to get what they want. and this creeping, right-wing authoritarianism has now taken over montana. republicans in that state have silenced state representative zoe zephyr, the state's first transit or lawmaker, after she told her colleagues that they have blood on their hands for supporting a bill that would ban gender affirming care. the gop majority voted to bar representatives of her from the house floor for the remainder of the legislative session, and then passed the bill she was fighting to stop. the governor of montana has cited i

there are 226 approved permits on federal land in north dakota. >> mr. german one final question nowral district judges ordered that q you continue to lease sales on a quarterly basis are you going to do that? he has ordered you to continue the quarterly at least you are holding up we complaint the court order? >> senator will follow the law to the best of our ability thank you. enter. thank you madam secretary first i want to complement the guy who sitting to your right deputy he was in maine over the weekend and through the implementation of the great american outdoors act celebrate the building about maintenance and shed dedicated national park which is desperatelyel needed. maintenance and building much more than a shed. the point to being maintenance important. one thing thatan worries me abot the national park budget repays past the american great outdoors act is an incredible accomplishment to buy down the deferred maintenance in the national park system. my concern is all that budget seems to be moving slowly in the right direction, we are still

[applause] >> for publican representative armstrong of north dakota spoke about several -- >> atomicat uses markers that quickly guide you to interesting highlights and key coverage. his interest anytime online at c-span.org. >> clean energy, this is 30 minutes. >> republican

the i've been in japan and you're welcome to the the news aisha are glad you can join us a north dakota and attempt to launch a spice of life has failed. debris crushed into the sea shortly after take off, but it did set in motion, permit and confusion across the region with japan and south korea issuing warnings to their citizens. this, however, may not be the last time they are forced to do so. this is believe to be part of north korea's fuss by satellite. the projectile was found by the south korean military officer which had crushed into the sea. well, the military identified what seems to be the debris of a purported north korean space rocket in the waters west of our town. we were in the process of recovering the debris. in the hours emergency, simon sounded across south korea's capital sold. it cause confusion along with mobile phone and lots which quote on residents to evacuate level. it was a morning. so i understand that there may be a misunderstanding between us, the change in an emergency situation. however, it's not. i tell people to just evacuate without any explanation of

and that's why he hasn't additional interest in stoking tensions and escalation in the north dakota please. so the international community has called in all parties to de escalate. what else can they do as well? they are trying to work and advance an agreement between causal and serbia that was agreed by both parties. it was agreed by both president for church of serbia and prime minister alvin court date of costs. so this is agreed in february and again confirmed in detail in march of that year. but serbia has tried to undermine that agreement with continuous attacks on it with president and butchered, saying i'm not really down by this and imposing red lines that are contradictory to the terms that he himself accepted. now one of those key terms is for a form of autonomy for the costs of serbs and that's been difficult for the cultural prime minister to accept all been corte, but they've been working on that and he has normally accepted it. now this latest price is comes when corte sent by force 8 to try to get the mayor's installed. mayors out babies, our cars are a baby and bears who,

the presiding officer: the senator from north dakota. a senator: madam president, i'm here today to join my colleague from west virginia and others in, again, calling on the administration to secure our southern border. mr. hoeven: last thursday i traveled to brownsville, texas to see first hand the situation. i traveled repeatedly to the southern border and each time i go, i see more and more people coming across illegally. i've been to mcallen, i've been to del rio, i've been to mexico, ecuador, guatemala, and colombia, both sides of the border. as i go each time, more and more people are crossing the border illegally. in the three days leading up to the end of title 42, border patrol reported 10,000-plus encounters each day and almost 83,000 for the week. in the first six months of fiscal year 2023, cbp encountered more than 1.6 million individuals in six months, that compares to about 2.5 million crossing illegally last year. that means that the pace we're on, it will be more than three million coming illegally this year. this truly

we have learned a lot of lessons from states like north dakota. we have approved louisiana and we see a mouse will start as a model for the states he planned to move forward with. we have a progressive relationship with the state of west virginia on their classics well application and the application will be processed. we have uniformity across the region to make sure that our states have similarin applicatis so -- >> thank you mr. chair. i hope they would move quicker. it's aptly critical to move forward to a cleaner environment and capturing and sequesteringrd and utilizing the carbon. thank you. >> thank you senator capito. senator peterson. >> it's good to see her today and thank you for your testimony. the great lakes restoration initiative was established as you know in 2009 to accelerate efforts to protect or restore the largest system of freshwater in the world, the great lakes. michiganders the great lakes are not only in our dna but our critical resources for drinking water w for 40 million people to drink water under the great lakes and

it includes military sites as you can see on this map in north dakota, south dakota, california, iowahe proposed security expansion would give the government the authority to review any foreign individual are purchasing land or real estate within a 100-mile radius of certain military bases. kind of makes sense, i believe. stu. stuart: thank you, ash, got it. now listen to this, white house press sec karine jean-pierre says you know should not strike outside its borders -- ukraine should not strike outside its borders. >> we are unable to con firm the authenticity the of the reports at this time, so i don't want to get into speculation from here about what happened. here's what i will say: since the beginning of this conflict, the united states is certainly not encouraging, enabling, oren abling ukraine to strike beyond its borders. we've been very clear from here about that. but again, i don't want to get into speculation from here about the authenticity of this report. stuart: okay, look who's here, retired navy seal commander dave serious. -- dave series. d dave sears. why does bide

locals fear the state will take their land or pipeline leaks could destroy crops. >> why should north dakotaground for the trash of iowa, nebraska, minnesota, and south dakota? >> why now? billions in tax credits, number one. two, a realization if the u.s. wants to go to net 0 emissions, without a lower standard of living, you still need fossil fuels and this is one way to get them. >> bill: funny how it works from los angeles. william la jeunesse, thanks. >> dana: let's give everybody a view of something happening at the border. we're about a week away from title 42 expiring and the migrants know it. so they are coming in droves and it is picking up. we just had an amazing report from griff jenkins on the ground doing terrific work telling us what's happening there. a good thing fox news is there. we have our drone team there, they can show you these pictures as this line has tripled since we've been on the air in an hour. >> bill: they're one hour behind. the morning hours seem to be the busiest hours you would say. sun is not up and it's not as hot. you just said they know how the rules a

for more we're joined by north dakota senator and member of the appropriations committee, john hoevenood to be with you, mike. mike: senator, you're just back from the border. what did you see? and what should the biden administration do about it? >> as you know, title 42 is expired now and they're saying under title 8 they're going to manage the border. nothing could be further from the truth. we're seeing on the order, 10,000 beam c people coming here illegally. and more than two million last year and we're on a pace that's going well beyond that. they're saying they're using title 8. really they aren't. because when the-- somebody comes across illegally. they are he a saying, okay, you have to have an asylum claim and the individual says i want to appeal that and in essence they get a phone number and get wherever they're going and that's the supposed court appearance and they get an alien identification number and able to work and get benefits. and the court asylum date is five years and of course they don't show up for that. and think of the message that's going to to south ameri

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sources say north dakota governor doug bergham will join in early june.ence, new hampshire governor chris sununu and former new jersey governor chris christie, bret. >> bret: all right, rich, thanks. the first whistleblower associated with the hunter biden criminal investigation testified to congressional staff in a closed session today. correspondent david spunt has the latest tonight from the justice department. good evening, david. >> hi, bret. good evening. his name is supervisory special agent gary ha ha shapely he spex hours behind doors house ways and means committee. talking about staff members from both sides of the aisle, republicans and democrats. his attorney said he answered all questions. the reason he was on the hill today, bret, was to try to seek some protection so he can tell his story. he wants some legal protections from congress. he began work on what he calls a high profile investigation in 2020. sources confirm that investigation is the hunter biden tax investigation that commenced in 2018. shapely says a meeting between investigato

kelly, are north dakota. thank you very much. you can see i don't have my in front of me so i am you just going to work with right. we had this set up and so that we would then hear to try to put this all in context our scholar and our expert makes a lot of sense that the scholar would follow congresswoman titus because congresswoman titus for 34 years taught his history and politics of nevada and the united states of and so today to put this in context is our favorite our favorite art historian who is michele cohen and michelle is the curator of the architect of the capitol. it is her job to make sure that all the art is safe, that we all understand what it is. and she comes to us with a fascinating background. she's from new york. she was in charge of the public art for the new york city schools. so dr. michele cohen, come tell us, how does this all fit together. i'm to just look well, honestly, really enjoyed listening to everybody. i don't know if i will be quite as amusing, but i'll try and let's get our first slide up and i

. >> republican representative kelly armstrong of north dakota spoke about several aspects of energy

you know, i do a lot of business in rural america, it's a very important place, south dakota, north dakotang. this is the bread basket of america. these are the people that supply essentials to us, not just food but energy. and we need a policy that's very supportive of not just in time food supplies, we just went through a pandemic. we need in case food supplies, just in case energy. we have to fill up the reserves. this seems a little off message to me. i mean, it -- it doesn't -- i look at when policy is in sync with politics you get results. this is out of sync with everything. this is a bad strategy right now, and i do not, and nor does anybody else that pays taxes, want to see crisis in food supplies. we are already in a critical condition with inflation. i can't imagine -- i bet if he could walk this back and erase this tape he would do it. >> sandra: i can't imagine a time people are paying so much more for basics like eggs and milk and bread that they are going to -- that this is going to be very popular to go after our agricultural supply in america. i want to ask you about our e

matt, with the greatest spectacle north dakota, i've never heard of dog bergman told this week. what is the likelihood that people like burgum, there's a picture of him i have never seen the man. like chris sununu, like a south hutchinson are just thinking about running in order to, i'm not being cynical about this as a cable news host, but maybe just to try and get a cable news contributor deal? or a book deal, or some sort of love from centrists. that they are not really serious candidate. >> i mean, certainly that's a good percentage. and again, chris crunchy may or may not run again, i don't know who that's a candidate for. even mike pence, who is a candidate for? i think, it's very unlikely that any of these people will get any traction, and certainly there is a ponded industrial complex that is waiting for them with book deals, and cable news -- and maybe they will join that complex. >> yeah, i mean chris christie is a classic example of that. he's going to run against trump having tried to get trump elected in 2016 in 2020. what credibility chris christie has. stuart, it

and separately, in an exclusive interview, north dakota governor doug berg said he's considering launching miami and nbc news national politics reporter henry gomez, who spoke to governor berg . dasha, desantis' campaign said it raked in a hefty sum in fund-raising in the first 24 hours. >> yeah, that's right. $8.2 million in 24 hours. that's a significant figure. it beats what biden raised during that same period in 2019 when he announced his bid for the 2020 election. it took former president trump about six weeks to reach around $9.2 million, according to "the new york times." that's an important number and it is one we're probably going to hear a lot from the campaign as they try to make their case and use that as evidence to say, look, there are voters out there who are interested in and looking for an alternative to former president trump. and that best alternative is ron desantis. they're going to be hammering that message, they're going to be hammering the fact that the former president is bombarded by legal trouble, that is going to weigh him down, that's going to cause a lot of b

. >>> prosecutors in north dakota believe that they have solved the case of the missing ruby slippersoes in question are a pair of ruby red slippers worn by judy garland in the "wizard of oz." they were stolen in 2005 and recovered in a 2018 fbi sting operation, but no one was ever arrested. this week, 76-year-old terry minnesota. indicted on charg >>> and we are getting extraordinary new details of the "titanic" that we've never seen before. check out these digital scans. it shows a three-dimensional view of the shipwreck. scientists used submersibles to scan every millimeter of the ship last year and captured images of personal artifacts including watches and top hats. experts hope it will offer more insight on how the "titanic" sank 111 years ago. >>> and a soccer match came to an abrupt halt in chile after an unexpected visitor stormed the field. [ speaking in global language ] you can see the dog rushing to the bawl as the game stops. the referee and several players circle around the pooch and try to get the ball back. one player eventually escorted the dog off the field with the

released >>> a heartwarming ritual of positive affirmations has had a huge impact on a 5-year-old in north dakotai smart >> reporter: every morning, a-year- 5-year-old colin and his nani say these affirmations it's been their ritual avenue day for the past year. >> it's something he is affirming to himself and making himself believe and putting it out into the world that he is all of those things and so much more >> reporter: she got the idea from tiktok and immediately thought of cowen, hoping it would support the child through his journey with down syndrome he was non-verbal and had very limited speech eva encouraging him to practice affirmations, keeping the ritual a secret until cowen felt ready. >> recently, he has nourished and he can say it almost all the words independently. >> reporter: now a year since the practice began, eva and cowen surprised his mom sara with this video. >> you're going to have a good day, what else say i? >> i >> am important. >> yes, you are. >> reporter: showing that consistency and care paid off. >> she believes in cowen as much as my husband and i and his sibli

immigrants, were arrested without legal charges and sent to prison camps in montana, new mexico, north dakota, and elsewhere. the men taken away were community leaders, including language school teachers and buddhist ministers. - they came after my dad, and he was taken. and they told him that he had a weapon on the farm, so they have to take him away. that was their reasoning for taking him. but what we had was those huge knives that we used to cut the cauliflowers. and that was just farm equipment. - well, my grandfather was taken away. he was kind of a japanese leader in the south park area. and so, when the war started, the fbi came, and, of course, the family didn't know where he was for many years. (foreboding music) - [evelyn] on february 19, 1942, president franklin delano roosevelt signed executive order 9066, which led to the establishment of military areas in the states of washington, oregon, california, and arizona, from which all persons of japanese heritage were excluded. being japanese on the west coast was now a crime. - [narrator 2] the japanese race is an enemy race. and whi

bismarck north dakota is 1 11 sleeper way and 3000 square feet. three bedrooms, two baths. uh, take a look. not bad 212,100. square foot house for 2100 bucks. 2100 here would get you a studio. maybe squeeze out of one bedroom. if you look in the right area if you look hard enough, someone's garage. that's also another another option here , but yeah, we pay for where we live middle of december rather be in a garage and, you know, conquered that. no actually send you this listing. please don't alright, let's go and swing out here to open. and where a number of residents say they areo even walk in their own neighborhoods . they packed a meeting last a string of street attacks in and around the grand lake district. ktvu settling. live there now with what they want from police, dave. good morning, gasia. well, there was applause as well as some complaints at last night's public safety meeting praise because police said that they made an arrest of at least one individual involved in that attempted robbery of that nanny where a toddler was hurt, and there's also calling for change

i i i just got back this morning mo from north dakota. gem i'm going there because this state is a gem for investment. it's's got good policy right acs the river from fargo is a town called moorhead. >> i've been there, okay?s, i'm twenty l five years ago.nt listen to this, everybody. this you don't even have to get into politics. u go what happened here. wit you got minnesota with a river separating from north dakota.d,2 you got moorhead twenty five years ago. fifty thousand peopl e in it. htwenty five years ago, fargo had fifty thousand people. >> today you've got two hundred and sixty thousand peoplego living in fargo. >> you've got microsoft, secondr largest campusos, massive arts, biotech, energy businesses. >> but wait, go across r the river. only twoiv, hundred yards.out, >> you step out, it looks like cuba. thba. people left in moorhead.differen the difference is minnesotcea policy. >> north dakota policy.a wow, that'po's ts the differenc. and here's why.ts the differenc. you're a nurse and here's why., you're a nurse.yo you cross

and and and also in illinois and we're on the road to be in in north dakota. and in several other states right now that we're in close conversations with and a process really simple. you know, i had the great fortune of presenting to all of the leadership of the department of corrections, all of the executive leadership, each of the past couple years. and so they heard me talk about the project. they present the project and basically they reach out to us. so we reach out to them. and then it's just a process of going through the steps where they send us particular prisoners that they choose partner with, because some prisons already have lot of programs, some don't. and we choose a part of places where this would be most beneficial and they send the layout of the housing unit or the layout of whatever where they want it to be. so it might be a a recreation room that's just adjacent the housing unit. and then once we get the layout work with our design team at mass design, a partner with us from the very beginning. and basically we we design the space will look