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when the mogels came from persia to north india they saw the story telling and thought it was a beautiful art form. they were not engaged with the story but saw the beauty in the footwork and hand movement. they brought the dancers into their courts. they were a form of entertainment. so, i want you to put your imagination caps on. we will go from the forest into a beautiful mogel palace. there are velvet carpets and peacocks walking around. there are beautiful paintings and everyone all of you, the audience have come to enjoy the court and the king sits on his thrown in the corner twirling his mustache and he called for his dancers and they come to the room. you are here to be entertained by them. this is called taught. taught is a highly stylized tuning of the mind and body together. you will see very fast turns ending in sharp stances and things with our eyes and eye brows and our neck, our hands. and you will also hear a language, which you might have heard. this is the language of our dance. it tells us what to do with our feet and our bodies and there is a lot of mask going on. you
when the mogels came from persia to north india they saw the story telling and thought it was a beautiful art form. they were not engaged with the story but saw the beauty in the footwork and hand movement. they brought the dancers into their courts. they were a form of entertainment. so, i want you to put your imagination caps on. we will go from the forest into a beautiful mogel palace. there are velvet carpets and peacocks walking around. there are beautiful paintings and everyone all of...
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gas and water cannons when crowds try to bridge barricades in the center of new delhi we were in north india security forces shot dead a journalist covering a protest over sex attack on actress renshaw rains of christmas for many people united kingdom was supposed to be getaway weekends a many stranded with flood ravaged parts of southwest england covering our communities and canceling trains home for the holidays not over yet either sadly forecasters predict get more heavy rain while more than five hundred for the let some warnings have been issued nationwide. i had the second part of a special report apocalypse now coming up after this break. remains a mystery even for specialists how a voice can produce several sounds at once but we didn't use the artist's throat singing comes naturally picked up like a language. a language of communicating with nature it said that's where throat singing originates from t.v. news believe not only animals but also surrounded objects like reverse forests and even stones of souls by imitating the sounds they believe experienced to capture the power of nature
gas and water cannons when crowds try to bridge barricades in the center of new delhi we were in north india security forces shot dead a journalist covering a protest over sex attack on actress renshaw rains of christmas for many people united kingdom was supposed to be getaway weekends a many stranded with flood ravaged parts of southwest england covering our communities and canceling trains home for the holidays not over yet either sadly forecasters predict get more heavy rain while more than...
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further north we may see a tropical storm developing around the solomon islands which would bring increasingly what weather across the region. pretty wet across the good part of southern india and sri lanka, the northeast monsoon, one terrain's across a good part of sri lanka now struggling with widespread flooding. over 300,000 affected. north, largely dry. winter weather along afghanistan and northern pakistan and the far north of india, in the process of petering out. we have rain petering out across the arabian peninsula. in doha, lively downpours into the overnight period into friday.the fall, saturday 8:30 eastern. >> welcome back. our top stories on al jazeera. thousands of people are in the streets of iraq to protest against the government. most are from the minority sunni muslim community, accusing shia prime minister of discrimination. more howling reports from syrians recently escaped to lebanon. on the diplomatic front, russia and by this. 's main opposition group to moscow for more talks on ending the crisis. china approved new rules for bloggers to use their real names. critics say it is an attempt to curtail freedom of speech and could prevent people from exp
further north we may see a tropical storm developing around the solomon islands which would bring increasingly what weather across the region. pretty wet across the good part of southern india and sri lanka, the northeast monsoon, one terrain's across a good part of sri lanka now struggling with widespread flooding. over 300,000 affected. north, largely dry. winter weather along afghanistan and northern pakistan and the far north of india, in the process of petering out. we have rain petering...
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his store, named ami jewellers to honor his wife, lies in a small town called in the north of india called umreth, population 38,000. still, the community supports some 54 gold shops. that's one shop for just over every 700 citizens. the ratio underscores the importance of gold across india. "every function of every people, they try to give gold gifts. in certain communities, it is compulsory to give gold." of course, there is no function for gold quite like an indian wedding. "marriage season, the parents give the kids a lot of gold jewelry." > > is that when you see the most action? "absolutely." on this day, the action came from a family shopping for their future daughter-in-law. "they bought a mongol sutra with earings, a necklace with earrings and another chain. turns out to be about 216,000 indian rupees." at today's exchange rate, that buy translates to more than $4,000 in gold. and while not every indian can afford that kind of outlay, all families will need to buy some gold when their children get married. "if from the lady's side they don't come up with the gold, there's going to
his store, named ami jewellers to honor his wife, lies in a small town called in the north of india called umreth, population 38,000. still, the community supports some 54 gold shops. that's one shop for just over every 700 citizens. the ratio underscores the importance of gold across india. "every function of every people, they try to give gold gifts. in certain communities, it is compulsory to give gold." of course, there is no function for gold quite like an indian wedding....
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india, north america! well, don't think we won't detect your call center accents, india n.a. how are michigan's union members takintaking this news? >> prounion protesters are swarming the capital building in lancing. >> hey, hey, ho, ho, right to work has got to go. >> union busting is disgusting! (laughter). >> jon: dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes that busting-disgusting if you want to win the khraoe climactic rap. you have to put effort into it. (laughter) (cheers and applause) look, you have one job at one factory, when you seize every benefit you could, yo, our palms are sweaty, knees week, arms heavy, working in a factory all day building chevys, like the volt, you plug it in, and then you win -- ecologically, because if it was an actual race you would not -- actually. you've got to dues collect for the unions oro bahts are going to come and take away our jobs or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands to work and go -- ♪ this of ha tunety comes once in a lifetime note? note yo! (cheers and applause) you know what
india, north america! well, don't think we won't detect your call center accents, india n.a. how are michigan's union members takintaking this news? >> prounion protesters are swarming the capital building in lancing. >> hey, hey, ho, ho, right to work has got to go. >> union busting is disgusting! (laughter). >> jon: dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes that busting-disgusting if you want to win the khraoe...
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i'd done in northeast india while they were recently researching the program and one of the research is called me because i've travelled of rabbit or had then around an area of north east india called the seven sisters states which are very not so good back then hardly travel told by outsiders and i made of quite a few photo documentaries there and during their research they came across this work and they asked me if i could sort of tell many stories around there one of which made it into the film actually was the story of a khasi tribe in make a liar who create these incredible living bridges across rivers very hard to explain when you see them i should i think we should be one of the wonders of the world they're absolutely amazing two hundred year old bridges across rivers made completely out of living trees with stones inlaid and walkways it was fantastic you know. so yeah they contacted me about that and we just started a dialogue and i discovered the b.b.c. natural history unit don't normally commission a photographer for these large projects they did this is what i would ask it would be because it's a television series and it was a pretty you. i mean to to h
i'd done in northeast india while they were recently researching the program and one of the research is called me because i've travelled of rabbit or had then around an area of north east india called the seven sisters states which are very not so good back then hardly travel told by outsiders and i made of quite a few photo documentaries there and during their research they came across this work and they asked me if i could sort of tell many stories around there one of which made it into the...
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from east to west, the road to india stretched from the north to south. researchers are urging the country to make full surveys of it cultural artifacts. they say they can be passed down to future generations now that years of war in the country are drawing to a close. hideki yui, nhk world. >>> violence between buddhists and minority muslims in myanmar has continued for seven months. the country has not yet found a fundamental solution to the conflict and now the u.n. general assembly ask expressing serious concern over the latest surge of sectarian violence in the western state. the 193-member world organization adopted the resolution on monday. it urges government action to improve the situation of the minority and to protect all their human rights including their right to nationality. the clash betweenees first erup may. thousands of people have been displaced since june. clashes have become more severe since october when at least 84 people were killed and more than 120 were wounded. many buddhists in mean man view the muslims as illegal aliens from b
from east to west, the road to india stretched from the north to south. researchers are urging the country to make full surveys of it cultural artifacts. they say they can be passed down to future generations now that years of war in the country are drawing to a close. hideki yui, nhk world. >>> violence between buddhists and minority muslims in myanmar has continued for seven months. the country has not yet found a fundamental solution to the conflict and now the u.n. general assembly...
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we did not see yet more flooding rains and in the showers will just be nudging north where to the far southern parts of india as well. a little further to the west and we will see flooding in somalia as well. thanks to this area of cloud. embedded in the system is a tropical cyclone it is a very weak one. it looks like the winds should not cause too much problem but already the clouds and rain already started over the horn of africa and we will see very heavy downpours headed toward tuesday. there will be flooding. a bit further north and here in doha, it should be fine and settled. just to the north, rain will be affecting in kuwait -- very wet and windy. >> the award you don't see, wednesday, 11:00 p.m. eastern, 8:00 p.m. pacific. >> welcome back. let's have a recap of the top stories. syria piece of president bashar al-assad says he will do whatever he can to resolve the crisis in the country. his comments on state tv follow a meeting with u.n. peace envoy lakdar brahimi. a two-day mission to damascus. and afghan policeman killed a u.s. contractor in kabul in another so-called insider attack. the woman sh
we did not see yet more flooding rains and in the showers will just be nudging north where to the far southern parts of india as well. a little further to the west and we will see flooding in somalia as well. thanks to this area of cloud. embedded in the system is a tropical cyclone it is a very weak one. it looks like the winds should not cause too much problem but already the clouds and rain already started over the horn of africa and we will see very heavy downpours headed toward tuesday....
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they're demanding a toughening of india's rape laws. further north protest over the assault of another woman turned deadly. a journalist was killed by police gunfire in protests there. >>> people in chile and argentina are watching a volcano that straddles the border between the two countries. the volcano has been spewing smoke into the sky and ash has been raining down on surrounding towns. but so far no evacuations have been ordered, although some people have fled the area. >>> police officers see a lot of interesting things, but this may be a first. check out what a cop spotted darting across the road. a baby in a shopping cart heading right into traffic. stick around for the ending. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit,
they're demanding a toughening of india's rape laws. further north protest over the assault of another woman turned deadly. a journalist was killed by police gunfire in protests there. >>> people in chile and argentina are watching a volcano that straddles the border between the two countries. the volcano has been spewing smoke into the sky and ash has been raining down on surrounding towns. but so far no evacuations have been ordered, although some people have fled the area....
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india. and in a few minutes i'll good north talks with russia's chief negotiator about what it means for the country to finally join the w t o i think is of talks. i. wealthy british style. markets. can. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's culture for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into a report on our six. experience before series with the color guard. the model for service. so. before sponsorship. nations the foreign policy. lifts. they are all here to make it possible. to chimp and the client. the for. the for. you. so. the gold fever. turnstyles winds into slaves. my father but also among others involved in the monsoon and since i started working in amman i stated a lookup. field multinationals. is a cash cow to be milked dry and if i think that in this country gold medal logie has an environmental cost which is unacceptable local business was labeled illegal and controlled by criminals in order to protect our lives our families and to work in peace. most blog post but we are forced to pay protection to illegal groups what pri
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india against coal. we're working with the arab climate demonstration. and then we'll have seven delegates from every country on earth except north korea where we never hadrking. but every place else. we'll never outspend the fossil fuel industry, so we have to find other currencies, movement, spirit passion creativity. sometimes we have to spend our body like we did to stop the keystone pipeline when we had the largest civil disobedience action in 30 years. >> the flip side we were not able to stop them in moving forward with the equivalent of what in giga tons of coal that the obama administration, whose been leaning in on this more than most presidents-- >> the obama administration let shell go up and start drilling in the arctic. >> as the ice melt there is, nine trillion barrels of potential opportunity. >> we're making a series of bad decisions, and those bad decisions reflect the political power of the fossil fuel industry. there no longer needs to be these bad decisions. we have alternatives. germany, the one large country that took serious this problem the germans announced they're going to soar past their target by 2020, and they think they'll
india against coal. we're working with the arab climate demonstration. and then we'll have seven delegates from every country on earth except north korea where we never hadrking. but every place else. we'll never outspend the fossil fuel industry, so we have to find other currencies, movement, spirit passion creativity. sometimes we have to spend our body like we did to stop the keystone pipeline when we had the largest civil disobedience action in 30 years. >> the flip side we were not...
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north as we get into christmas eve. >> welcome back. a reminder of those top stories -- syria and activists say a government strike killed dozens of people queuing for read. in india, thousands of people have defied a ban and continued protests against the rate of a young woman in new delhi. -- the rape of a good -- of a young woman in new delhi. mario monti says the most important thing is to get italy's economy back on track. the opposition leaders in egypt have called for an investigation into allegations of fraud. the muslim brotherhood says 64% voting yes after two rounds of voting and 36% voted no. the official votes are expected on monday, but the turnout for both rounds was incredibly low, averaging around 32%. we have more now from cairo. >> the opposition response was quick. been maintained the position they do not consider the constitution -- they maintain the position that they do not consider the constitution legitimate and will continue fighting it by peaceful means. >> we will not allow them to change the identity of egypt going forward. and we will also change the constitution. >> after claiming irregularities, the high election commission promised
north as we get into christmas eve. >> welcome back. a reminder of those top stories -- syria and activists say a government strike killed dozens of people queuing for read. in india, thousands of people have defied a ban and continued protests against the rate of a young woman in new delhi. -- the rape of a good -- of a young woman in new delhi. mario monti says the most important thing is to get italy's economy back on track. the opposition leaders in egypt have called for an...
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gang rape of a student on a bus in india police used tear gas and water cannon when demonstrators tried to bridge barricades in the central new delhi i mean time in the north of the country security forces shot dead a journalist covering a protest over a sex attack on an actress. crenshaw range of christmas for many people it was supposed to be the getaway weekends that many stranded as flood ravaged parts of southwest england cutting off communities and cancelled trains for the holidays it's not over yet either forecasters predict get more heavy rain while more than five hundred floodlights mornings have been issued nationwide. in a couple minutes we want you to meet the prophets of the apocalypse for doomsday means payday. divine power in action activate the sacraments. i am jesus we need these we are under the control of those governing us before at the service of a space mafia i found on that date the magnetic field of the sun realty. into if they will create the super got the stuff. after the second coming it will be a futile place it will receive its glory it will be a renewed world and it will be a beautiful place. full of the best. little stuff jus
gang rape of a student on a bus in india police used tear gas and water cannon when demonstrators tried to bridge barricades in the central new delhi i mean time in the north of the country security forces shot dead a journalist covering a protest over a sex attack on an actress. crenshaw range of christmas for many people it was supposed to be the getaway weekends that many stranded as flood ravaged parts of southwest england cutting off communities and cancelled trains for the holidays it's...
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sea as well where japan in north korea that's in the careers are involved as well but this is a big difference a big power play basically between the u.s. and china and india who wants to more or less control what goes on in an indian ocean we all know that in the future these three all have to live in the same waters the chinese navy the indian navy and u.s. navy so that brings us to the u.s. pivoting announced by a bomb almost a year ago at the pentagon if they go with the militaristic kind of thing towards asia then we're going to have a conflagration against china soon within the next few weeks if they go for some kind of commercial alliances with countries in asia individually then it's a much better prospect for the u.s. and for the west in general ok alexander you know began the i mean you know nato is nato a force for good ok because it's looking to the pacific now over. well i mean nato is reaching out to countries like australia and japan to intensify their cooperation but i'll give you an example of that you just mentioned a country where relatively often and that is libya if it had not been for nato colonel gadhafi would have murdered the inhab
sea as well where japan in north korea that's in the careers are involved as well but this is a big difference a big power play basically between the u.s. and china and india who wants to more or less control what goes on in an indian ocean we all know that in the future these three all have to live in the same waters the chinese navy the indian navy and u.s. navy so that brings us to the u.s. pivoting announced by a bomb almost a year ago at the pentagon if they go with the militaristic kind...
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megyn: they say asia will surpass north america and europe combined by 2030. you mentioned china, indiades collapse or sudden retreat of u.s. power would extend in period of global anarchy. we have that going for us, ambassador. thanks for weighing in. >> anytime. megyn: see you soon. it was national attention when cameras caught chrysler workers drinking and getting stoned on their lunch break and went back to make cars. this is not just any workers. this was the chrysler plant president obama picked up on the auto industry multibillion-dollar bailout. so it was especially controversial. in minutes the eye-opening update with what is happening with these now-fired workers today. >> you know, the government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and, you coming out here on your lunch break drinking like this? where are you guys going, man? i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together t
megyn: they say asia will surpass north america and europe combined by 2030. you mentioned china, indiades collapse or sudden retreat of u.s. power would extend in period of global anarchy. we have that going for us, ambassador. thanks for weighing in. >> anytime. megyn: see you soon. it was national attention when cameras caught chrysler workers drinking and getting stoned on their lunch break and went back to make cars. this is not just any workers. this was the chrysler plant president...
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north america, africa, asia, and the seas in between. the seven years war changed the map of the world shifting national borders in europe, in africa, in india, and elsewhere. it leveled thousands of towns and villages in europe. killed or maimed more than a million soldiers and civilians, and bankrupted a dozen nations including england and france. remember, it started in britain's north american colonies, and the british government and british people naturally thought british subjects in british north america should share the costs of the war with their fellow citizens in britain. in fact, the government raised property taxes so high in britain that farmers rioted in protest and demanded that americans pay their fair share of the war. in 17 # 64, the british government extended to the colonies a stamp tax that everyone in britain had been paying for more than 70 years. it amounted to next to nothing for the average citizen, a pepny or two or a stamp attached to legal documents, publications, and the packages of non-essential products like playing cards. the harshest effects of this tax, however, were on members of three powerful special in
north america, africa, asia, and the seas in between. the seven years war changed the map of the world shifting national borders in europe, in africa, in india, and elsewhere. it leveled thousands of towns and villages in europe. killed or maimed more than a million soldiers and civilians, and bankrupted a dozen nations including england and france. remember, it started in britain's north american colonies, and the british government and british people naturally thought british subjects in...
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india will grow like china today. in a tectonic shift, asia will have surpassed north america in europe in terms of global power, basedze, military spending and tech technological investment. china will surpass the u.s. economy even before that what does this mean? look when you see the short-termism in washington, where they are arguing about tax increases and entitlement reform and very short-term thinking overall, this is the big picture. the big picture is more change any time since the french revolution, the industrial revolution in the 18th century and happening more quickly than we have ever seen. people more empowered. governments having less power and no single global leader. quickly about global leaders in business. a new report released a catalyst for us. and growth for pay and positions for women at the highest levels of corporate america, flat lining. flat lining of the fortune 500, 14% are women, 85% men. this is not moving. 8.1% of top earners in corporate america are women. 91% are men. board seats, women make up 16.6% of board seats compared to men. that's the 7th year of no growth at all for women an
india will grow like china today. in a tectonic shift, asia will have surpassed north america in europe in terms of global power, basedze, military spending and tech technological investment. china will surpass the u.s. economy even before that what does this mean? look when you see the short-termism in washington, where they are arguing about tax increases and entitlement reform and very short-term thinking overall, this is the big picture. the big picture is more change any time since the...
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unemployment falls below 6.5% and north korea successfully launched a rocket that could be used as a long-range, nuclear- tipped missile some day. online, we have the story of india'sret weapon in the fight against cervical cancer. hari sreenivasan explains. >> sreenivasan: it's a simple household ingredient-- vinegar. doctors use it instead of costly pap smears to detect the disease. that's part of our series with pri, "cancer's new battleground." and we profile a social entrepreneur whose company transformed bicycles into machines for processing corn and charging cell phones in tanzania. all that and more is on our web site newshour.pbs.org. gwen? >> ifill: and that's the "newshour" for tonight. on thursday, we'll talk with the u.s. special envoy to afghanistan and pakistan, marc grossman about withdrawing u.s. troops and negotiating with the taliban. i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. we'll see you online and again here tomorrow evening. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> support also comes from carnegie corporation of n
unemployment falls below 6.5% and north korea successfully launched a rocket that could be used as a long-range, nuclear- tipped missile some day. online, we have the story of india'sret weapon in the fight against cervical cancer. hari sreenivasan explains. >> sreenivasan: it's a simple household ingredient-- vinegar. doctors use it instead of costly pap smears to detect the disease. that's part of our series with pri, "cancer's new battleground." and we profile a social...
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india and putt halt on the colder degrees. a cult of the cool air -- from those clouds. -- ithe system from alaska's could be impacting us but by noon, the rainfall. spreading throughout the north, light rainfall associated with this system. we will keep the showers spotty. but by late sunday morning, the organized revolt towards the north bay. heavier, even at that hour. mainly concentrated to the north. temperatures? tonight, very cold. as i just mentioned, freezing conditions in santa rosa, livermore 32 degrees and those locations, 36 degrees in san rafael. 30's to the peninsula, the south bay and frost, overnight again. as i mentioned, as those clouds push in, the temperatures could be stagnant. tomorrow, cloud coverage again. 58 through san francisco, napa, concord, san jose = 53. snow flurries for the sierras but more organized sunday and monday with several inches of fresh powder. for the end of the weekend. a look a your extended forecast a locally with rain on the monday/tuesday for at a break tuesday towards wednesday but there rainfall return by the end of the workweek. now, www.snowbomb.com the resorts have not updated their web pages the we did see some therese thi
india and putt halt on the colder degrees. a cult of the cool air -- from those clouds. -- ithe system from alaska's could be impacting us but by noon, the rainfall. spreading throughout the north, light rainfall associated with this system. we will keep the showers spotty. but by late sunday morning, the organized revolt towards the north bay. heavier, even at that hour. mainly concentrated to the north. temperatures? tonight, very cold. as i just mentioned, freezing conditions in santa rosa,...
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india caucus, almost more dysfunctional than ours. we look pretty darn good if we can put a real plan in place. >> what would be the size of the plan? >> i think it gets north of $4 trillion, whether it gets to $6 trillion. this goes back to where you start. two points -- kind of on the opening round questions. it is important to remember that the simpson-bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, or the gang of six, which is built off the simpson-bowles, the presumptions that went into those plans assumed that all the top rates would go back up. when you start from that, even though i think simpson-bowles's idea that he would bring the rates down to the high 20's is a bit of a stretch. i do not think we will see that kind of across the board almost zeroing out in some places of tax expenditures that would require. they can show a path towards meaningful tax reform even with the rates at the higher level. point two, and this is one of the things where i think those of us on the democratic side need to help bring some clarity -- we throw around the notion that increasing the rates to the "bush levels" would, depending on your baseline, did you close t
india caucus, almost more dysfunctional than ours. we look pretty darn good if we can put a real plan in place. >> what would be the size of the plan? >> i think it gets north of $4 trillion, whether it gets to $6 trillion. this goes back to where you start. two points -- kind of on the opening round questions. it is important to remember that the simpson-bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, or the gang of six, which is built off the simpson-bowles, the presumptions...
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india caucus, almost more this functional than ours. we look pretty darn good if we can put a real plan in place. >> what would be the size of the plan? >> i think it gets north of $4 trillion, whether it gets to $6 trillion. this goes back to where you start. two points -- kind of on the opening round questions. it is important to remember that the simpson-bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, or the gang of six, which is built off the simpson- bowles, the presumptions that went into those plans assumed that all the top rates would go back up. when you start from that, even though i think simpson-bowles's idea that he would bring the rates down to the high 20's is a bit of a stretch. i do not think we will see that kind of across the board almost zeroing out in some places of tax expenditures that would require. they can show a path towards meaningful tax reform even with the rates at the higher level. point two, and this is one of the things where i think those of us on the democratic side need to help bring some clarity -- we throw around the notion that increasing the rates to the "bush levels" would, depending on your baseline, did you close
india caucus, almost more this functional than ours. we look pretty darn good if we can put a real plan in place. >> what would be the size of the plan? >> i think it gets north of $4 trillion, whether it gets to $6 trillion. this goes back to where you start. two points -- kind of on the opening round questions. it is important to remember that the simpson-bowles plan, which has gained a lot of attention, or the gang of six, which is built off the simpson- bowles, the presumptions...