he'll talk about north korea's outreach to him and other republican leaning foreign policy experts. ngner with heritage foundation, the north asia senior research ellow, also served as former c.i.a. division chief for korea 1996 to 2001. good morning to you. there are stories in the papers recently in the last couple of about interest by russia to learn more about trump's korea.onship with what is your role in that? guest: those conferences have going on for sometime. north korean officials will meet academics and it is a chance to exchange views, ideas n policy and what it can and should be and then i think recently, as many people in are unsure of what the president's north korea olicy is and also our allies have been a bit confused and are would in and north korea be give particularly the signals that perhaps doing military strike. out to aea is reaching number of people to get a sense f what we think the parameters of north korea policy and the trump administration is. host: you got such an invitation? i have been contacted, i was in meetings in june, wrote an op ed about it. the

and inside the heart of kim jong-un. >> north korea is living in a world unto itself. last few months of the u.s. north korean relationship have been some of the most tense in the entire history, going back to 1953, the end of the korean war. if you want to understand what's actually going on in pyongyang, if you want to know why they make the decisions they make, one of the things you have to understand are these rare moments when the palace opens its doors inadvertently and lets you in. and one of those moments, perhaps its most spectacular moment, was the assassination of kim jong-nam. >> narrator: north korea has been ruled for seven decades by the kim family dynasty. they have created a fearsome police state accused of systematic human rights abuses. kim jong-nam was the oldest son of kim jong-il, who ruled north korea for 17 years. >> narrator: his mother was kim jong-il's mistress, a famous north korean actress. >> his mother was number one film star in my generation. and his mother was a married woman with a daughter. every north korean people knew his mother's

we also know north korea remains intent on breaking our alliance system in asia. and believes that threats to the homeland will cause u.s. to abandon south korea and japan during a time of crisis. we also know that both kim jong un and his father believed they could manage provocations and the escalation and that by possessing a nuclear weapon he believes that the u.s. threshold for war may be heightened allowing him to be more provocative and belligerent. we must strengthen our homeland and develop a mod earn proech to deterrence. regional economic lenkz and 34ir89 posture are essential to demonstrating u.s. presence as a transpacific leader financial diplomatic and other pressures must be applied to cut off potential trading partners. next the u.s. must protect all of our territory from north korean attacks and 1307bd should one occur. many of the actions of the department of defense, department of homeland security and others have taken to prepare for wmd attack by terrorists would also apply to north korean attacks against the homeland. we must enhance our prep

coming back to north korea. america's current diplomatic policy must be cautious in engaging this individual, this leadership that appears to be very unpredictable. reports do confirm north korea is accelerating the pace of its missile testing. devoting more resources to develop its cyber operation. and threatening to create a multi-functional nuclear bomb. recent actions such as the north korea connected hacking groups that stole $81 million from banks in bangladesh and southeast asia show north korea is getting more daring and much more functional. with their cyber operation. from the witnesses today i look forward to hearing from you. and how this department homeland security can better protect the vulnerable critical infrastructure of cyber. cyber threats and how to mitigate such threats here in our country. further while the probability of a electromagnetic pulse appears to be at this time unlikely. north korea has made it clear it is testing its ability to mike a hydro general bomb capable of such destruct

but our research indicated that moreli linked to north korea. we should focus on the activities of north korean linked vessels including increasing the number of entities and individuals sanctioned in the north korea shipping sector, compiling a complete list of vessels linked to north korea and naming ports in china and russia that facilitate north korea's sanctions evasion. the urgency of that threat should call for the department to take these actions before the 180-day grace period granted by the sanctions law is elapsed. north korea's nuclear weapons and missile programs are a threat to the u.s. homeland and allies. there are two basic policy options for the united states. one accepts this dangerous situation as reality under the false premise that north korea's provocations can be contained or deterred. the other path was successful in this bringing iran to the negotiating table with crushing sanctions that could force the kim regime to realize the futility of continuing its nuclear weapons and missile programs. the only peaceful way to pro

and like to begin with north korea. wondering if i could put you on the spot, there's a lot of rhetoric going around and then outside that there's a lot of analysis of fear of emanate conflict on the korean peninsula. can you describe for us in your view what is the danger today of military conflict over north korea? >> i think the issue were discussing his right now the most immediate national security threat the united states and our partners face. at the same time, the most pressing serious long-term strategic challenge and i think we have to think about that boy think about this is a national security problem boy think about diagnosing and addressing the problem. north korea's u aspiring to establish itself as a nuclear state. and its leader is focusing on his stability and security at home. were also wrestling with the country in northeast asia, how what relationship try to watch with united states. china itself is wrestling with concerns about instability and at the same time is trying to establish a stable relati

and north korea, south korea. we've had various crisis here and there, i feel like, at least for me the current state seems different. with north korea, two icbm tests in july, the six nuclear tests that followed. and north korea has been close to completing the nuclear program, catering to their capable where they can attack the united states and it wasn't in the sense that it's not acceptable. it's a sense of urgency, that something new and different, whatever that is needs to be done about that. and, of course, we have president trump, who has increased the rhetoric against north korea, i'm sure everyone has seen his speech at the united nations, calling kim jong-un rocket man and threatening to destroy north korea, and, of course, kim jong-un following up with a personal statement, personally, i have not seen such a personal statement, first person with his name. just everything becomes so personal, and the north korean foreign minister following up with a threat to do another nuclear test, this time over the

what effect would decertification have on the north korea negotiation? keep in mind also the fact that the north korean also -- moamer gadhafi in terms of what he agreed his program what they did with them. and. then third, what is in the next iranian election they have produced another lead a look at the new agreement that the trump administration, if they were new agreement say suppose we don't like the agreement there can be the rais come disablement say we want to negotiate a different agreement, a different arrangement, framework, one the previous administration got was a horrible agreement, the same trump is expressing the previous administration got horrible agreement with them? >> guest: very good points. we talked earlier about why president trump is taking a big risk if he refuses to certify or decertified because there is no material evidence of a breach at all the validator to agree on that. number two, breaking faith with allies are partners in this advent our caller brings up the thirdd major point, why would ay country including north korea

north korea is now thought to have more than 30 nuclear warheads. ttempts to get the north koreans to abandon their nuclear programme. i don't see how the us can ignore this. the united states has not had a new country pointing a nuclear weapon at the united states since really the 1950s and ‘60s. this is a major situation. 0lli heinonen, a un weapons inspector, has been inside north korea's nuclear facilities. i think that we have come now to a very serious junction. they have demonstrated with their recent nuclear tests that they have probably got a very powerful, advanced nuclear device. but, ithink, they still need to work. they need to make it perhaps smaller. so, do you think that north korea has the ability to hit the west coast of america with nuclear weapons? most likely. most likely, but not with a big number. so how did north korea develop these weapons? part of the answer may lie in the former soviet union. the russians were masters at sending rockets into space, and when the soviet union broke apart, that expertise was suddenly for sale.

why would they ever attack north korea -- attack south korea. but the north koreans also believe, and if you don't -- if you don't believe that, just ask one of them -- that somehow south korea is a creature and frankly a creation of the united states. if you can just get the u.s. off the peninsula, many north korea -- many south koreans would somehow welcome some kind of unification. again, pretty hard to take when you -- when you look at the objective circumstances, but looking at objective circumstances is not very north korean of you. north koreans often look at the circumstances they believe that, with a unified effort, and by the way, history is full of less powerful armies defeating more powerful armies because of this unity of spirit and effort. so, it is not to be ruled out. in fact, i think it is more likely than some of the other explanations, that north korea believes they can -- they can, by pointing a nuclear weapon at the united states, they can put themselves in a position of making the u.s. blink. and i would argue, if the u.s. b

north korea has nuclear weapons. the search for details on the early life of kim jong un takes us to bern switzerland. kim's father north korean leader kim jong il is reported to have sent him here to attend school under an assumed name. there's a large north korean community unburned swiss journalists tito's plattner explains why they choose to live there. just like no u.s. research being told us she's the reason for that lies in the recent history of switzerland it's a neutral country and many international organizations are based here out. switzerland has always been open to the north koreans they know that this is a peaceful country with a business and that their privacy will be respected their prevail you're going to join that's why a lot of prominent north koreans send their kids to study here he was going to deal she's sick and that includes kim jong un here can join each of us is a false raise. in one thousand nine hundred ninety two swiss authorities received an application filed by the north korean embassy f

well, the president is certainly sending messages to north korea. the question, of course, is what are the north koreans hearing. b-1 bombers flying in a show of force over the pacific, sending the message just one more time to kim jong-un that the u.s. is ready to move against him if it comes to that. president trump met again with national security officials to review what the white house calls a range of options to respond to any form of north korean aggression or if necessary, to prevent from north korea from threatening the united states and its allies with nuclear weapons. the north korean foreign minister telling the russian state-run news agency, president trump lit the wick of war when he spoke to the u.n.. >> rocketman is on a suicide mission for himself. and for his regime. >> reporter: the foreign minister, who called for a hydrogen bomb detonation over the pacific, called trump's u.n. remarks bellicose and insane. pentagon officials say there will be more u.s. military shows of force. three aircraft carriers could be training together in

inside north korea, there are no competito competitors. it's the kim regime and only the kim regime. the kim regime's main competitor is south korea, free democratic prosperous republic of korea. as preposterous as this may sound, this regime understands that the only long term guarantee of its own survival is to establish hedgemony over the entire korean peninsula have we seen recent developments? basically, the kim regime attempted to demon ties the economy by replace iing it withe regime. they were no longer able to feed its people. we have seen a process of informal marketization in north korea. there are farmers markets, black markets, open markets, many more people depend on the markets today then they do on the public distribution system, which is still active for those living in the capital city of pyongyang. they're quite impressive one might say. i also have the memories of nikolai romania, where there was a lot of construction, but very little economic utility to that construction. the regime of kim jong-un has invested heavily i

strategy towards north korea. and it's one that has the advantage of presenting an option other than a military first response. as many experts have called for, this legislation takes a page from the iran sanctions playbook by mandating the use of secondary sanctions which were widely credited with forcing iran to the negotiating table. in the context of north korea, an american program of secondary sanctions wouldn't just ban u.s. companies from with north ss korea, it would also force companies, individuals, banks, and governments to make a choice. stop doing business with with n korea and its enablers, or be cut off from the global financial system. although we saw in iran context just how powerful this approach can be, when carefully fashioned as part of a broad coalition, we must remember that sanctions alone are not a strategy. sanctions are a tool and in order for them to work they must be linked to a broader strategic effort with a high level of skill in their desire and implementation and with the clear u

that latitude you've been given is a deterrent to north korea's enablers. case in point, the same day the executive order was announced, the people's bank of china told financial institutions to wind down their books of business with north korean clients. i previously made the point that our deep economic enter dependence with china hurts our ability to incentivize them to take action. did the simple threat of secondary sanctions bring about the bank's announcement? >> senator, i can't tell you what has motivated the chinese, the various announcements that we've seen from the chinese. i can only tell you that again we are continuing to work with them and to put pressure on them to take the steps they need to take. i think that the executive order sends a very important and careful message that if we see continued evasion of our sanctions regimes, if we see banks not complying with their obligations to restrict this kind of activity, we won't hesitate to act. that in and of itself should be sending a very clear messagetom banks around the world. >>. >> anythi

most of the people we spoke to were chinese trading or in ventures with north korea. n how the regulation is enforced, this could have a major impact on north korean trade. but if north cred does shift to chinese companies, it might not have that big an effect. that is how they are enterprising. he's too soon now to see those economic sanctions that china has put in place against north korea take effect? i mean, you the cold then, the tax band, and limited oil exploits. —— coal ban. —— exports. limited oil exploits. —— coal ban. -- exports. china tries many things before they implement sanctions. at the same time, north koreans are ill—defined ways around sanctions. sometimes channelled the other way, then as it does not. but depend on then as it does not. but depend on the extent to which north korea circumvents the sections, we might not see a huge drop, although i am expecting some drop. just a heating speaking to me earlier. a few decades, microsoft has dominated software. recently, it has been playing catch up. but there has been an effort to change the culture of

this is a village which before the korean war was in north korea. is still close to the demilitarised zone. this place was built about five yea rs this place was built about five years ago, underneath the mountain and it is absolutely fast. 100 metres long and 20 metres wide. so big, it has its own echo. listen to this. hello. echo: hello. are you worried that could be what again now? —— war. a look at the very demilitarised border. you have been watching newsday. stay with us. we take you to india to find out how the government is helping businesses cope with changes brought about by the goods and services tax. and before we go. a huge haul of cocaine worth 260 million dollars has been found hidden under the kitchen of a tugboat. seven people have been arrested. the boat was in the atlantic, more than 800 kilometres from the canary islands. hello, once again the weekend has been marred by relatively benign conditions for most areas. decent spells of sunshine boosting temperatures. no escaping the fact that in some spots, there was quite a bit of cl

going to be north korea. south korea is different, has been south korea, it's held for six decades. it continue going if we keep deterrence working, but that's a difficult thorny problem that professionals like sue really know how to deal with, not what the administration is doing. >> does this worry you, watching from europe? when the cuban missile crisis, that standoff happened, the whole world was scared. this is a much smaller country, north korea, but does it worry you to watch these trading of insults? >> it's decayed since we did not take seriously enough the threat of north korea. so now we wake up because we are at the edge, at the verge of the abyss. it's a little late. my feeling, i'm not a specialist as you are, but the one who has the key of this situation is china. china is aiming to have a real world influence. they are probably ready if there was a real agreement with america to fulfill the standards which are required in order to be a real superpower. they cannot afford to have such a nuts all

the one thing that would work against north korea. gn minister at the un saying that the us had little wea k of un saying that the us had little weak of a war against his country. -- lit the weak of a war against his country. —— lit the wick. this comes ahead of thejoint military —— lit the wick. this comes ahead of the joint military exercises that are coming up this week. a 10—day exercise happening around the korean peninsular that is routine but comes amid the growing tension between the two. the us is now preparing drills and evacuation of its troops from south korea in case of any kind of military strike. all of this of course contributing to the heightened tension and yet another bombastic bit of rhetoric from the north koreans today as the war of words and a bellicose exchange with us shows no sign of abating. thank you so much for updating us. the most powerful communist party in the world is getting ready to hold its congress in beijing, where the next five years of plans for china will be drawn up. more than 2,200 high ranki

, although they're not happy with north korea, they have a treaty with north korea but north koreaserves a purpose for china as was articulated. i don't think they want to see it used doing something in north korea that would upset this equation where they have an ally and in some ways they probably view north korea, given historical park, tribune tribuy state, but the fact is it's their turf. china will be very protective and concerned if we should, my personal view, unilaterally or in consultation with our allies do something that is amicable to the interest and that's what have to be part of any in my view, in a discussion about what plants and attention would be. really our allies in the south korea but china, that's an important region for them. >> i'm going to unleash the ious audience on you now. bracer cells. it's difficult for me to see because of the lights. i would like the first questions to be from students and want to get to the press section before you finish up, or students who are members of the gw community. who's going to choose for me? there's a gentleman up her

some more insight on the danger posed by north korea right now, which clearly goes beyond missiles and nuclear weapons. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is here in "the situation room." you have new information on the north korean cyber capability. >> that's right. this is an attack targeting the u.s. power grid. power companies here that run the u.s. power grid, in fact, a short time ago we got this statement from the department of homeland security. the following, while there is no indication of a threat to public safety, the importance of the nation's energy grid makes it a prime target for malicious cyber actors. we also reached to a cyber security firm that is often contracted by the government to analyze cyber attacks. they were involved, for instance, in analyzing the russian interference in the election. they detected this attack, gave us some details. we can confirm that fire eye devices detected and stopped spear fishing e-mails sent on september 22nd, 2017, to known cyber threat actors likely affiliated with the north korean government. the spear fishing

and north korea. between north korea and other countries on the region and only then. can there be a way to towards a balanced decision all other ways war drizzled. in dead ends with this is a very dangerous down also but i have just remember just this idea just came to me everyone is talking about. imposing new sanctions on north korea but north korea has been living under these sanctions for decades. in two thousand and one. i'm not mistaken when i was in north korea i imagine the father of the current leader of the country that has said to me of the time that he had a nuclear bomb. and yes he did go moreover. that's because they couldn't use some very simple artillery system that was able to take this payload just seoul that was two thousand and one now it's twenty seventeen now the country has been living under constant sanctions and now they have a hydrogen bomb. now there. may styles intermedia trains missiles not just artillery they can reach much food. is this the way that can lead towards a resolution of this conflict or this problem or know that there was a t

after releasing the three north korea is. they disappeared straightaway. —— they disappeared straightaway. —— the three north koreans. they know will be difficult for them. it will depend on how persuasive the defence can be in arguing that these are simple women from poor countries, who did not know what they were doing. people will be waiting to see if the malaysia prosecution when their argument that they did know what i talk about. there is a mandatory death penalty if they are found guilty. jonathon head, there, giving us some context to that story. with bali's agung volcano predicted to erupt soon, officials have created an exclusion zone around the mountain. anyone living inside that area has been advised to leave for their own safety. but despite this — some are choosing to remain. you're watching newsday on the bbc. still to come on the programme:us secretary of state rex tillerson has been in china talking about negotiating with north korea. but he's been receiving mixed messages from back home. in all russia's turmo

and north korea because of what happened in libya and other places where people were. despotic leaders quote were defending and then actually killed so in that part of the things i don't know that north korea and the united states can sit down across a table and strike a deal so i don't know that that's necessarily china's fault in terms of the trade issue that is always hard on that china is concerned about a. regime change message leave that something bad happens. and you start having china starts inheriting all the problems remember there won't be many refugees moving from north korea into alaska or anywhere else in the united states if things fall apart so this the these issues are pretty complicated but it's clear that you know you cannot sis say it's one side's fault if there is no talk no trust there will be no resolution ok i know something let me just not i don't just ask you this follow up question how much influence do you believe beijing has of a north korea could they change north korea's behavior if they wanted to not really if you think back every time t

invaded north korea has pretty critical decision and they try to take all of korea and place them under signal. and so that brought the chinese an unforeseen back to the entire course of the war chinese communist troops crossed the manchurian border and helped the north korean rest drive back. sixty four years ago this train was bombed on a resupply mission to communist forces in the north battling u.n. troops today it stands frozen in time much like the thirty eighth parallel. moment to date over the course of. so. explain the. cold war and the second stage. come from that the korean war. so formation and conservation use better better use for ward to understand the code in the future how is that divide that impacted culture here in the south specifically by the queen were we. going to see emotion and deported. are you rich because confrontation between the salsa north even the korean war or not i think the we are similar to the astringent of the germany after the one hundred forty four books after the korean war or the situation when interest attrition has been changed are you taught

science and diplomacy at the national university he says that kim jong nam death will have strained north korea china relations given that he was on the chinese protection at the time. yeah i think the chinese are pretty upset with the north koreans they just don't want to say it publicly i think geopolitically the chinese see north korea as a useful buffer between them and the americans and the japanese and south koreans so they like the idea of china of korea being divided and north korea being roughly in the chinese orbit what they really don't like is the sort of ideological gangster kind of governance of north korea right so the pursuit of nuclear weapons obviously is very disruptive to china i think that china i think they do think china is not lying when they say they want to denuclearize korea they want to keep the north korea alive they don't mind the kim family but i don't think they want them when you get weapons similar i think the chinese realize that all this kind of north korean gangsters and the kind of things that we've seen in malaysia not just the murders but north korea traf

countries sending north korea home.ation of pressure and the president building a very strong message to north korea that you will engage with us at some point to solve this because we're not going to allow you to have nuclear weapons and i have to make the tough decision, i will. and so i think in north korea, we have completely unified the international community, including north korea's previously closest allies that are now aligned with us. >> secretary of state rex tillerson, thanks so much for your time. we hope you'll come back and

when you look at iran and south korea and north korea, you look at trouble people there in south korea may be in because of this mad dictator in the north, are we are we going to find ourselves in a situation where we're actually having to think about using a nuclear arsenal? >> we always have to think about the potential of using it. more we think about it, less likely it will be we have to use it. listen we're up against very dangerous opponents. certainly short term with north korea. iran is more sensible than north korea. they're -- right in the long term. i don't think kim jong-un is suicidal. and i think that the more he sees the president trump is strong, that president trump does have the nuclear deterrent. that makes it less likely we have a war. just over the past few weeks, ever sips the president gave a speech at u.n., for first time we've seen some real progress involving north korea with china, again for first time, talking about imposing real sanctions on north korea. now they have to follow through. this is the furthest they have ever gone even discussing possibility of

he threatened north korea as you mentioned. very strong rhetoric condemning iranian regime. so the question is what happens over time. let's be fair. maybe this will work. maybe north koreans are blinking. there are anniversaries that passed north korea and there br weren't launches of missiles he as have happened in the past. what happened if they don't blink and the problem is trump keeps threatening force and if he doesn't actually use force, you know, the word of the american president will mean less an what happens over time. so again, an enormous gamble. this could work. it also could not work. >> and u.s. ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley saying this morning, that by not certifying the iran deal the u.s. was also sending a message to north korea, this is her comment. >> when you look at the fact 25 years of botched agreements and negotiations and accountability not kept by north korea, that's the whole situation that got us to where we are having to watch day by day to see if they he do an icbm test going forward. what we see with iran is don't let it become the next

designed to remove a north korean leader kim jong il all this comes as the workers' party of korea its seventy second anniversary in the north with president trump repeatedly threatening to destroy to north korea britain has dived into the mix and is currently drawing up battle plans to help the u.s. if a war with north korea becomes reality with the latest i'm joined now by our alex my hell of a bitch and tronto alex what exactly are we hearing from the u.k. when it comes to north korea. looks like the u.k. is taking things seriously they know full well that if the u.s. jumps into a war with north korea they might be one of the first ones asked to come along for the ride and just to think about that the fact is that these guys have started writing up plans on how they would help the united states in a war against north korea now we know the brits historically speaking have always had a pretty incredible navy and they still do to this day and what they are considering doing is adding to their arsenal with the h.m.s. queen elizabeth now here we've got some stats on this big boat thi

the amount of oil that north korea can import would be reduced by one-third. ere will also be a coalition on the importation of natural gas. ventures with north korean individuals and entities are banned. no north korean worker will be permitted to work overseas once the current contracts are completed, and no work thesis will be -- and no new work visas will be issued. this will deny the regime hundreds of miles of dollars that it has been channeling illegally to fund its programs. the powers to stop and search vessels that are carrying cargo to and from north korea will be greatly expanded. to fullyontinues implement those sanctions, including those that were imposed on the fifth of august. we will fully implement the latest sanctions. we will also punish sanctions individuals and 37 from north korea. we remain united and resolute and if so we can deter north korea from its course. >> of form had recently been held. decisions. >> under mckenzie. >> thank you. my question is for the minister for international development. can the minister update the senate on

speech, talking about destroying north korea, and they are using those comments, and that fits into theive that kim jong-un is using nuclear weapons for defensive purposes to hold off the american imperialist that would attack north korea. >> are they also aware of secretary of state tillerson and him saying that he is trying to work diplomatically and establish back channel communications? >> ordinary people are not -- government officials are, but they are also acutely aware of american politics, and they were asking us if tillerson will arrive the end of the year, and whether nikki haley will replace him. >> first, here's what secretary of defense mattis said about the options in north korea. let me play this for you from yesterday. >> there's one thing the u.s. army can do, and that is you have got to be ready to ensure we have military options that our president can employ if needed. we currently are in a diplomatically-led effort. >> having just returned from there, what do you think about the rhetoric coming out of the white house? >> i think president trump is trying to intimida

could they change north korea's behavior if they wanted too. not really if you think back every time that cheating ping has been near an international microphone for some reason this is the perfect time to fire off a missile or explode a nuclear bomb you can just check that and you'll see that that is the case she has is a very controlled person he does not react to donald trump he does not react to kim even though these are open provocations the chinese people are not happy about it john is government is not happy about it face is an important issue here and young kim seems to delight in making sure he puts she's face in the every opportunity ken ok that is an ok guy so you shaking your head a bit there very quickly your view on that i think china as we we all agree is one of the world's most powerful countries and if china were to decide that it wanted to push regime change in north korea or if it wanted to get cam to stop with this missile tests it has the ability to do so again massive country north korea has always been in its fear of inte

that combine forces command with the b-1 flights that has to be continually displayed with that north korea a problem. through the lens of the korea war. and then to put pressure on north korea. so the main strategic goal is not to bring peace and stability. china strategic gold is to maintain a permanent division that very critical view so that strong purpose of statement demonstrated on the ground in lockstep and that needs to increase to demonstrate that to the chinese and with those navigation and operations to take the wrong point of view but also that global point of view with that freedom and navigation. >> but that is not helpful to be rash with our analysis now looking at the issue as we all should of course, but to take away from this menu at all. [laughter] that is not just what we see here. . . which the issue is playing t in the management of it. why do they want a buffer state? because they see themselves in competition with the united states. to your question, the calculation as to what to do is not determined solely by the north korean behavior. what they worry about is in r

diplomacy with north korea. and there's tkpsy about north korea.orker agreed with president trump that diplomacy with north korea is unlikely to work because intelligence agencies have said kim jong-un is an insane man. he realizes the only way to keep his regime going, doesn't have the support of the north korean people, who are starving. to have a nuclear threat. anyone who tries to get rid of him will be bombed to kingdom come. i tend to agree with the president on that one. but i worry that he's under minding the other kind of diplacy others are trying to do. that's diplomacy with other tries, to them to stop working and helping north korea get money for its bombs. >> shannon: kim jong-un does not want to stop his nuclear program. if we can take away his ability to expand. if we can cut off his cash, there's not much he can do about that. >> shannon: let's talk about iran as well. there's an up coming date october 15th. president can decide whether he'll certify the iran nuclear deal or not. sounds like this time he may not. that would take us

and aim to confirm our close alliance voters weren't just focused on north korea in this election but some felt opposition parties felt to provide them with an alternative agenda. that was worth voting for. position parties need to become stronger and the result reflected many people's wish to see that happen they mean. instead of supporting the liberal democratic party actively i think voters didn't have any choice. the newly formed party of hope which many considered was the major threat didn't get as many seats as expected the other new party on the block the constitutional democratic party has become the main opposition tripling the number of seats in the lower house but i will say this election victory as a strong mandate to deliver on his reform agenda and act on his lifelong mission to revise japan's pacifist constitution and give the country's self-defense forces a more active role but the issue is controversial and voters are divided on a constitutional challenge with the escalating nuclear threat from north korea will be hoping it's enough to convince voters to back its

general public that you know due to the north korea issue its. general public sentiment is. larger only and there standing about how to do more choice on defense. not japan's pacifist constitution was drafted by the u.s. after world war two but what exactly does it mean the relevant court clause here is known as article nine it calls for complete renunciation of war literally that means japan shouldn't have any armed forces but it does successive governments have interpreted the constitution to allow a self-defense military has pushed for an even broader interpretation he passed a law two years ago that authorizes overseas military missions for quote collective self defense alongside japan's allies he's also pushed to change the constitution to further legitimize the military but that can only happen after a referendum and the people aren't necessarily on board recent polls show they are split on changing the charter richard it's going to be a complicated matter i mean with the aging population we're not going to suddenly see old woman on the front line in afghanistan in the

the second part he's brought great international sport for is our policy towards north korea. ting of sanctions and diplomatic pressure. we have the most comprehensive sanctions in place that have ever been in place to strangle the north korean's regime economic revenue streams. we have china joining us on putting pressure on north korea in ways that has never been achieved before. i attribute a lot of that to the strong relationship president trump has with president xi. we have the international community more unified with north korea's nuclear program that ever seen. sending ambassadors home. and the president building a very strong message to north korea that you will engage with us at some point to solve this because we're not going to allow you to have nuclear weapons. if i have to take the ultimate decision, the tough decision, the hard decision, the one i don't want to take decision, i will. so, i think in north korea we have completely unified the international community, including north korea's previously closest allies are now aligned with us. i think that's a signif

we think of north korea in the 1990's state where north koreans were maybe starving and had a poor ag economy, and they have a very robust ag economy, where they are least able to feed their people. maybe not american diet, but they can feed their people. so when we applied those sanctions, we need to understand they can self sustain for a wild. -- and while. so it may be a number of months before we start to see the impact of those sanctions on north korea. ms. easton: and you're making the point that having gotten that i level where they can eat, that when you start taking that away, you might see population level. -- ocular revolt. senator ernst: yes, and that is when you might see a popular revolt. the standard of living is higher than in the past, and those who have experienced those decades of want and need, now that those wants and needs have been met and fulfilled, they don't want to go back to that standard of living. so if we start to see that they're not able to sustain their own population internally, the living standards start to drop, you may see that popular revolt, but

so is in the simplest terms can do more to use squeezed north korea? on the flip side they don't want to knock the of regime down. >> '01 to increase pressure. >> was a defect that will have china still accounts for north korean trade but it is noteworthy by public record by their statement they're also very sensitive only agreeing to limits on trade to maintain influence probably worried about undercutting that. but publicly their policy is to support the denuclearization but to put a priority on stability but the challenge to look back and reflect to what extent they continue to provide north korea that at the end of the day north korea and the region and what they are forced to do do to recognize the support group with more threats to stability but my hope is that they wrestle with this equation in china. end where we could find a way and somewhere in there they can do more but that general way of china. >> and then just to go through a couple more topics but that general state of mind one of those issues that is relatively sanguine orchil then the p

the heritage foundation's disclaimer discusses north korea.nd the cost of the republican tax plan. be sure to watch c-span's republic -- c-span's washington journal. join the discussion. >> jeremy corbyn in brighton england. he sets out the main goals of his party

the key is not educating the common man in it north korea. .t is educating the elites senior politicals and leaders. a lot of them can be done in a very subtle way. north koreans love it south korean soap operas and dvds. they will see them again and again. these are messages we should be welcome to have defectors out of their nuclear programs. we will pay them handsomely. we are prepared to let them know that if they have a war, it is not going to be a pretty thing. this is based on warnings coming from pyongyang. what if they decide to release a hydrogen bomb in the pacific? all bets would be off. bruce: it would be a disaster for north korea. you set off a hydrogen bomb over the pacific, the likelihood his you're going to shoot down to some commercial aircraft, sink some ships. you are going to more than likely kill a bunch of people. can the united states is sit idly by and do nothing? that is the case where the united states would at least have to do some form of surgical strike, to demonstrate that north korea will pay the price. we have to convince kim jong-un the cost of such a

you say a little, christine, about how north korea responded? just engine south korea and the u.s. held the lee terry exercises recently -- military exercises recently. what was the reason wants? and is there reason to believe north korea is still open to negotiations? that is not the since we get here. correct i think it is important to note we haven't seen any missile tests or nuclear test in almost 38 days from the north korean side. i don't think that means they're going to continue. they've made it clear there on a path to achieving a nuclear -- attach a nuclear warhead that could strike the united states. many estimates is they are months away from doing that. i don't know if you recall after trump totally destroyed north ria speech at the u.n., yong ho -- i guess what happened over that weekend, the u.s. flu on theghter jets across maritime border. that is in complete violation of that it would be the line that would not be ofssed to prevent any kind skirmishes. so in response to that, north korea has said, we will strike and take down u.s