a one party state and i think north korea will when they want to a very attractive option for north korea yeah korea from other parts of the well we're still talking here about. are we talking about north korea and south korea or are we talking possibly in the future about united korea for it's hard to imagine a united korea i think korea has south korea studied the german unification as a model and wow it's expensive and i think they're a bit freaked out about that i don't know i don't i don't hear any talk of korean unification this is sort of a pipe dream from people who don't live in the region or but it's a very expensive thing and german unification is still a work in progress. yeah. obviously. germany and korea. is that commitment however determine it does not. go into in a civil war between east and the alien east and west germany. while there's as korea does civil war and then a based on this experienced some of the emotional emotional sentiment emotional. and negative emotional reactions to miscarry you know it's a wholly korean sentiment is still strong in south korea however.

north korea but then not from. other parts of the well we still talking here about -- i will talk about north korea and south korea we talking possibly in the future about united korea. it's hard to imagine the united korea i think yeah crea as south korea studied the german unification of the model and wow it's expensive and i think they're a bit. freaked out about that i i don't know i don't i don't hear any talk of creed unification the sort of a pipe dream from people who don't. live in the region or but it's a very expensive thing in german unification is still a work in progress in. june yeah of obviously -- you know the tererm it's arminis korean peninsula share a simila- this is the moment however determine if he's not. on undergo us if you're into in a civil war between east and west valley -- east and west germany in awhile knows as us korea the rent is still art and then a based on this experience are some of the emotional. on emotional sentiment emotiona- sentiment is still strongg in south korea howeve

could north korea learn from vietnam's experience. in it he said the north korean authorities have made it their business to study the the vietnamese model that we've just been hearing about the doing more model as it's called what will they have learned and what with good will they will do they do they view it as a viable model for north korea's future well it to be honest actually i was still correct bursars i started studying about the possibility and also of the potential of this vietnamese model whether it is fit into north korea now it's a starting point but in our the historical similarities and also the probably or some of the things neurologist. government was very successful there tracked more for investments now in japan and south korea is the number one and. to investing a lot of factories and. development development. projects in v.n. so you know says like now did previously divide and under rent the. place which is if you now. also the people invent. people is a pretty much i think for a discipline you know there's like a

as i said earlier we have raised all of them with north korea. but the nodalities and methodologies through which we can achieve our aims we're working through. we need the agreement of the north koreans to do that if we're going to be successful. >> we have two more minutes left. last question please. i'm going to take it then. what are they like to negotiate with? they being the north koreans. you know, all of us who work on this issue are acutely aware of the magnitude of what we're why are -- under taking. it's hugely reassuring to have the full support of the president and the secretary of state for diplomacy. the entire administration is engaged on this issue. and as we go to the room with the north koreans it gives us a lot of confidence in speaking with them as to what, what is america's objective in this negotiation. i have to assume that in the room that the person sitting across the table from me has the same mandate and has the same sense of mission from their government. it can be challenging, for sure. in a system like that, you don'

north korea buys and sells real estate for rental or speculative profit. you know. if they were to do direct business in those countries and openly show that our company is a north korean company mediately be subject to a tax on it. we rent out apartments. nobody knows who the owner is really we just collect the rents. do you know the names of these firms. as i don't know if i were to tell you that they'd end up on the sanctions list right away. just yes north korea is an awful dictatorship but the people who serve the regime faithfully like me or my friends or even the bosses are just doing our job someone doda. and joining us is pretty evil perhaps what they do is in itself banned but there's still a code of honor between us there is how you. really got to and why. do they earn money in the us. not that i know of. him and you get it but we do do everything we can to relieve them of money. we have technology hacking that includes blackmailing software that north korea hacks into the us infrastructure industry or digital companies. we can't analyze or make much use o

president agenda when it comes to north korea and when they have the ability to have the upper hand well let me let me in the north koreans also say that since the meeting in singapore they have taken a few steps they have for example dismantled. the rocket engine testing side they have also destroyed a major tunnel that leads to a nuclear testing site so maybe it was it was it may be that they wanted to get something in return. so the moratorium on testing is is is of course welcome i want to stress that what was outlined by trying today if that was in fact what was on the table that is no small small deal the sanctions against north korea internationally agreed sanctions at the united nations security council level they've been build up steadily since two thousand and six in response to north korean provocations and they're now some of the most comprehensive sanctions packages that we've seen agreed at the u.n. security council level so simply giving those up no matter how much you get in return is not a small deal i don't think that was ever going to be agreed today. what could have b

at the same time north korea was disengaging also from china and russia and south korea. we are not quite sure what happened and what transpired inside north korea during the month of november and december. but whatever it was it is like a switch came back on in late december. partially driven, in fact really driven by an exchange of letters between president trump and chairman kim. we began to see tightened up engagement between us and the north koreans that flowed into chairman kim's new year's address. that is their equivalent of the state of the union address. chairman kim reaffirmed his commitment to denuclearization as well as to transferring the resources in the economy to developing in his country to develop the domestic economy. those messages were reassuring and they set in motion a series of visit that had us engaged with north koreans almost nonstop since the new year. the secretaries counterpart came here in mid-january and spent a full day with the secretary and had an extended visit they covered a lot of topics. i was introduced to my new counterpart recent

at north korea put on the table. >> did not. >> this narrow definition. >> very limited concession by the north koreans involving the pyongyang complex, which includes an aging nuclear reactor, and some percentage of their uranium enrichment possibility in exchange for substantial relief from the sanctions. now one thing president trump has said beginning in the 2016 campaign is that he is not going to make the mistakes of require administrations and get into this action for action kind of arrange a president, which benefits -- >> brennan: with no counteroffer. >> the counteroffer is where we have been, where the president has exercised his persuasive abilities on kim jong-un to take the big deal and they weren't willing to do it. >> brennan: but what made the president steak out this tion? he negotiated the north koreans before going back to 2002, did you see the same pattern playing out now? >> i think the difference that president trump has the articulated to the north koreans is the future for them, once they make this strategic decision to question nuke, denuke cries what they ha

it would be unacceptable to us, it would be unacceptable to north korea's neighbors, including russia, china, japan and south korea, but also to suggest that's moving the goal post is in defiance of the factual history of the issue of north korea's weapons of mass destruction programs. if you read the u.n. security council resolutions, they are as pointed on the issues of chemical and biological weapons as they are on nuclear weapons, and ultimately the process of final fully verified denuclearization is to set the antecedent for the lifting of those sanctions. those sanctions which are international sanctions imposed unanimously by the u.n. security council would also look to the elimination of biological and chemical weapons programs as part of the complete process that we're undertaking. so this issue is one that we've discussed with the north koreans, it is not new and it would be -- it would be a very serious oversight on our part to leave any weapons of mass destruction out of the equation if we truly are going to be successful in transforming the korean peninsula, in order to h

north korea integrated being rich in and reaching the living standards of its southern neighbor or even vietnam that was touted but the north koreans more than anything else want security and that was one of the huge disconnects watching this failed summit go ahead michael. yeah i think that i think you're absolutely right security is uppermost in their mind. can jump on actually was invited vietnam to view some factory that was that really showing a lot of prosperity and he actually stated his motel room so security was really more more on his mind than anything secondly. if security and that promise of security is to come to north korea i think that that would ultimately. frighten china as well they need that they need a buffer and if the west is going to have that kind of an influence up to up to china itself i think there is i think china basically put the skids on thing are a little ones that will touch on that a little bit later big for its own reasons ok let me go to a hand ok in new york here and one of the things in watching this whole process here is that i'm far more impresse

concerning reports that north korea is cheating. month, there every is a think tank in washington that says we have satellite imagery that the north koreans are preparing to test a nuclear weapon -- it is hard to know what the north koreans are doing. the think tanks often do not know what they are talking about. the north koreans are always moving equipment around because they know we are watching, and they are not doing anything. the cia and our agents know what is going on. but when csi put out another reports, they do not know anything the government does not already know. the government knows a lot more than they know. it is complicated. i do not doubt that north korea's continuing north korean activities, but we need to get what they are doing and a confirmation that they stop what they are doing. >> thank you. talk, you talk to the u.s.-china relations and the trade talk. you also said that president trump's is to defend american values. in these relations, how do you see this as a human rights issue, and where is the position

concerning reports that north korea is cheating. it seems that there is a think take in washington saying that north koreans are preparing to test a nuclear missile. it is hard to know what they are doing. these think tanks often don't know what they are talking about. it is very difficult to interpret satellite data. north koreans are always moving sites because they know we are watching. sometimes they want to freak us out. the cia knows what is going on. but when other organizations put out another urgent report with satellite imagery, they don't know him -- they don't know anything the government doesn't are a no. the government knows more than they know. it is complicated. i don't doubt that north koreans are continuing missile activity, but we need to get a declaration from them of what they are doing, and a firm commitment that they will stop what they are doing. we are not to that point. i think the story is more complicated. >> one more question. in your talk, the u.s. china relations trade talks -- you also said -- is to de

is offering to stop something north korea hates while north korea gets to keep its nuclear weapons. president trump tweeting, quote, the reason i do not want military drills in south korea is to save hundreds of millions of dollars for the u.s., for which we are not reimbursed. that was my position long before i became president. also, reducing tensions with north korea at this time is a good thing. the president's national security advisor also down played the significance of this. ambassador john bolton says the u.s.'s greatest leverage are economic sanctions. >> it's not like some new decision has been made. the president made his decision on the exercises back in the summer of last year and those continue. i think what the united states gets from this is we show again the potential for the opening of north korea if they are prepared to denuclearize. we'll let the north koreans evaluate what happened. we're going to take a look at ways of making sure that our maximum pressure campaign of economic sanctions continues, because after all, it is the sanctions that brought north korea

bragg, north korea, you go to korea nor tcre korea for the fi. are you amazed with the negotiation of the environment. it is so tough it's different than any place or soldier or airmen airm airman has ever seen. that's property problematic when you giver away that exercise or war game as the president calls it, you are dealing with the potential for improved readiness and certainly in conflict does break out, you are seeing the potential for many, many casualties that you might not otherwise have because military forces are fought used to the terrain they are working on. >> we will see if we hear more from the white house for these movements in north korea. thank you both. >>> well, former chief of staff john kelly unloads about his time at the white house and about the wpresident's push for border wall. why he is calling it an act of money. >>> jussie smollett is charged with 16 counts we will talk about the upcoming arraignment. >>> also, r & b star r. kelly is behind bars. he is expected to be released. we will have more with his exclusive int

now we're seeing images from a missile, rocket factory where analysts say it appears north korea has put together something. hard to tell if it is a missile or rocket, assembled something, put it on a rail car, that rail car may be headed to a north korean launch site. we know that the satellite launch facility in recent days has seen a flurry of reconstruction work. it was a facility that kim jong-un promised to shut down, they started to take it apart. now analysts say it has been fully put back together, could be ready for a launch really at any moment. so if you see this missile or rocket roll up and sitting on a launch pad that hasn't been seen yet, if that happens, that's clear evidence that north korea is preparing to launch something, rocket or missile into space, into orbit. regardless of which it is, it would be highly provocative. north korea long said their satellite launches are for the space force, for research purposes, not any military threat. the u.s. sees it much differently because space rockets use the same inter continental ballistic missile. any launch would be h

of course i hold north korea responsible. in vietnam the president did not blame kim jong-un. >> i believe something very bad happened to him. i don't think the top leadership knew about it. >> the parents of otto warmbier disagreed with the president saying kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son otto warmbier and for unimaginable cruelty and inhumanity. no lavish praise can change that. the president took heat from both sides. >> kim jong-un knows everything that happens in his country, certainly with respect to an american being held prison there. >> we should not be naive about this regime and the way they mistreat their own people and mistreated otto warmbier. >> in vietnam, president trump fixer michael cohen testify on capitol hill. president trump went after him on twitter. cohen's attorney said the president was lying. adding sometime in early 2018 mr. cohen was offered an advance for a proposal regarding a book on understanding donald trump. this is just the beginning. cohen due back on capi

i applaud the president for his efforts to improve the us relationship with north korea.there is a not a more difficult relationship anywhere in the world than that relationship but i'm glad he chose not to seek a deal for the sake of the deal. as he returns from his summit with a north korean leader and turns his attention back home i want to make a respectful suggestion, and that is this, donald trump asked his lawyers to take a second look at an existing funding authority the president has to consider construction of the 234 miles of border wall that do not require a formal declaration of national emergency. i support what the president wants to do on border security but i do not support the way he has been advised to do it. it is unnecessary and unwise to turn aboard a crisis into a constitutional crisis about separation of powers when the president already has congressional funding authority to build a 234 mile border wall he requested in his january 6th letter to the senate. i ask consent to include a record following my remarks of the president's january 6th letter

and bolton is right that over three administrations the efforts to negotiate a good deal with north koreaes it hurt u.s./north korean relations? i don't really think so. i think if you look at it in terms of north korea, they won. i mean, here is kim on his 2,000-mile trek on his train going to a state visit in vietnam after the summit, and now going back and maybe meeting with xi jinping, and he keeps all his nukes, and he's an operator on the world statement. world stage, and he's got a closer relationship with china than he used to have, and so i call that a win for kim. it does hurt us on the world stage. people are looking at us, and i think it makes our leverage even less than it has been in other parts of the world. chris: i want to pick up on that with you, ben, specifically in terms of u.s./north korean relations. while the president walked away from this summit, it does appear that he is softening his terms. originally, they were talking about no concessions until north korea gives up everything. now they seem to be saying, well, this was too big an ask, but we would give up som

china talks you know before the talks in north korea fell apart in vietnam i should say with north korea everybody assume that there's going to be a deal short because trump said at the press conference in vietnam look i walked away from this i might have to walk away from the china deal even though larry kudlow expressed great optimism yesterday the other two let's sing of the chief negotiator and the new should the treasury secretary have expressed a little more doubt and reserve when it comes to speaking about it. so it's a question and especially if trump believes that china was behind north korea being obstinate here and stubborn at these recent summit it might not bode well for the future of the trade talks and don't forget today's march first trump in his goodwill gesture postponed the increase in tariffs that was supposed to take effect today and alex what about the host country here what are the angles vietnam is trying to work as the interlocutor here in the summit well i mean look at vietnam is a country that has one of those fastest growing economies in all of asia and this i

sanctions and allowing north korea and south korea to have more economic interactions. that is not what mr. kim was asking for. he was asking for the lifting of united nations sanctions, which are different from u.s. sanctions. once those united nations sanctions were lifted, i think it would be very difficult to put them on again. if you just look at the deal the way mr. trump describes it, and he did not describe it with perfect accuracy, but close enough, north korea was offering something reversible and asking for something that was irreversible, permanent, and very big. thatu look at that, simply, it was correct for the president not to accept that offer. host: another piece from josh in the "washington post," he writes the following "the trump administration officials failurently save the means there was no choice but to fair try.ethod a trans approach has failed. pyongyang is happily reaching -- reaping the rewards. " let's go to jeremy. good morning. thank you, c-span, for standing for democracy and our freedoms. i was just listening, and oh, my god, i think peo

these satellite images appear to show north korea's rocket launch site the web site thirty eight north which specializes in studying the reclusive state says they show efforts to rebuild between february sixteenth and much sake and thanks and those dates put it right around last week's summit in vietnam that's where u.s. president donald trump walked away saying he couldn't meet kim jong un's demands to lift sanctions analysts say this could be punching back the north koreans haven't actually used it for a long range test missiles they've used it in past for satellite launches which a lot of people say sort of double as missile tests but they haven't actually sort of formally used for missile tests and it's not necessarily clear that the rebuild is actually leading up to that my own sense is that this is sort of peek at the way donald trump treatment them in north korea are in vietnam this into the strategic and international studies says the images show rapid rebuilding at a site partly dismantled last year when p.r. nyang entered talks with the u.s. and south korea during the reading

did absolutely on north korea.it allowed things that happened, and to happen, that were very inappropriate. but i'm not blaming the obama administration. i'm blaming many administrations. something should've happened. but i don't think the rhetoric has been bad at all. initially, it was horrible, but now it's been very good. all right, one more. how about you? go ahead. please. please. go ahead. >> [indiscernible] i am from south korean media outlet here. i'd like to ask you, you said that we do not particularly know when there will be -- north korean leader will be willing to come to the table and take the actions that's been required. if that is the case, with the u.s. be willing to strengthen the sanctions and perhaps put the pressure on north korea to move forward? pres. trump: i don't want to comment on that. i can just tell you this. we have very strong sanctions. i don't want to talk about increasing sanctions. they're strong. they have a lot of great people in north korea that have to live also. and that's

from north korea and iran. with the foundation for defense of democracies per this is one hour and 15 minutes. cliff: welcome to the foundation for defense of democracies. i'm cliff may. i'm fdd's founder and president, and i'm pleased you could join us this morning for a conversation on america's missile strategy, countering and defending threats from iran and north korea. with release this week of the administration's 2020 defense budget request, we thought it an important time to discuss the iranian and north korean ballistic missile threats and how the department of defense can best respond. fdd has for many years been covering the missile threats from these rogue regimes, but we are pleased today to meet under the purview of fdd's newly launched center on military and political power. cmpp seeks to promote on a bipartisan basis better understanding of the strategies, policies, and capabilities necessary to effectively deter enemies of the u.s. and our allies, and make sure we have the capability to decisiv

for a conversation on america's missile strategy, counting and defending threats from iran and north korea. with release this week of the administration's 2020 defense budget request, we thought it an important time to discuss the iranian and north korean ballistic missile threats and how the department of defense can best respond. fdd has for many years been covering the missile threats from these rogue regimes. but we are pleased today to meet under the purview of fdd's newly launched center on military and political power. cmpppcmpp seeks to promote on a bipartisan basis better understanding of the strategies, policies and capabilities necessary to effectively deter enemies of the u.s. and our allies and make sure we have the capability to decisively defeat any who are not deterred. cppp provides rigorous, timely and relevant research and analysis. we have a senior group of former u.s. officials who are serving on our board of advisers which is chaired by hr mcmaster. before he begin by way of housekeeping i should note that today's event will be livestreamed. and we are live on c-span.

week's failed summit between donald trump and kim jong un and vietnam a web site specializing in north korea studies called thirty eight north says it has satellite imagery showing efforts to rebuild some structures at the launch site al-jazeera briars has more from seoul. these reports stem from a briefing that's being given by south korea's national intelligence service to lawmakers in seoul which seem to indicate through satellite imagery that work has been done on restoring some of the buildings at the tongue chung re testing site this is a site that has been used for the launch of satellites but has also been used for the testing of engines for ballistic missiles that has been speculation of the work may have resumed just as the hanoi summit was failing to reach an agreement but there is a lot of speculation that this work may well have been before the hanoi summit and it does not necessarily indicate that it's any restarting imminently of north korea's weapons program and as observers here have also pointed out that since the successful summit of last june in singapore between trump an

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north korea is a garrison state. if we want to see progress toward that, isolating them, doing military exercises, conducting sanctions that prevent the develelopment of the economy -- i mean, you look at u.n. the security council sanctions, for example. it bans exports of textiles. who do think wororks of these factories but women? we know when women have access to the resources, they control the purse, conditions of their family and communities improve. so how are we not seeing this context ofpolitical conditions in north korea? we have to say we have some culpability in this. amy: christine ahn,, thank you for being with us founder and , executive director of women cross dmz, a global movement of women mobilizing to end the korean war. speaking to us from hanoi, vietnam, where the u.s.-north korea summit has broken down. president trump has left. we will continue to cover this story. we will link to the joint letter to both leaders from hundreds of women around the world calling war.n end to the korean when we com

challenge may be convincing the north korean leader a deal isn't a sign of surrender or vietnam like north korea was once economically isolated poor and split between north and south today though it's one of the fastest growing economies in the world. economy growing at seven percent it remains a single party communist state yet foreign investment and private enterprise have created a wealthy middle class all thanks to reforms which in the me is a cold but it's not recognized by international investors as an emerging market is seen as a from. vietnam lists two hundred thirty six restricted areas where foreigners are limited to forty nine percent of shares we asked new un managing director of business advisory group asia if she thought that vietnam could be a model for north korea people. from. any country that go to that. and so we do believe that. it's going to. not only. peace. keeping the peace in the reason now a new era of super fast internet speeds five g. the future was the message coming out of the mobile world congress this week in barcelona reports. at this tech trade fair there's one

/north korea relations. a little after a week that the hanoi summit ended without a deal, of course. the launch itself could happen at a site that had been partly dismantled while talks were under way. but now, it seems to be fully rebuilt. live in beijing, cnn correspondent will ripley. will, what do you know about the potency of this site? >> well, we know these are two locations that are very important for north korea's missile program. and they're being watched very closely. i spoke to a couple analysts who are looking at these images from a factory near pyongyang. what these experts are seeing, evidence that someone has assembled something at this factor. either an intercontinental ballistic missile or a space rocket. it's put on a train, but there is suspension that the train could be headed to the sohae satellite facility. in recent weeks, especially in recent days after the failed hanoi summit, work there has been happening at a very rapid pace. to a point now that 38 north thinks that the launch fac

was clearly willing to do but it does appear there's a basis for an interim deal that freezes north korea's nuclear program in exchange for limited sanctions relief which the north koreans desperately want because of their economic situation and this is all happening as north korea is going through a chronic food shortage what do you make of the timing of this and will this be able to sway negotiations any anyway the fact that north korea relies heavily on ain't. well you know north korea has put its people through a great deal of suffering in order to pursue. a nuclear weapons program in defiance of the international community i think kim jong un will be willing to do that again if he needs to but clearly. the leader of north korea wants to open up his country to foreign investment and trade in order to do that he needs sanctions relief and so at hanoi it was very clear that kim jong un was pressing hard for the removal of sanctions in exchange for steps not complete steps on denuclearization so this food shortage is i think another sign of the economic challenges that face north korea but

the leader of north korea.it turned out he may well be that neither of the two events showtime in washington and the showdown in hanoi, what proved to have much consequence. well mr. cohen to letter the presidents critics with a seven hour denunciation of mr. trump 's character, the impact of testimony may be muted somewhat by the fact that he has already copped to a charge of perjury. and in hanoi, mr. trump and his partner failed to reach an agreement and eliminated north korea 's nuclear threat. yet both events underscore just how unusual the trump presidency continues to be. the current spectacle highlights once again, the circus quality of washington and the age of trump, the presidents trip to asia and the unorthodox risk-taking style of foreign policy. while he continues to pursue a nuclear breakthrough with north korea, he and his senior officials are working to pull off a similar breakthrough with china. aiming to get a deal to open up the countries markets and avoid the imposition of tariffs. this wee

and vietnam a web site specializing in north korea studies called thirty eight north says it has satellite imagery showing efforts to rebuild some structures at the launch site started sometime between february sixteenth and march second zero as robert joins us now from south korea's capital seoul just what do we know about these restorations and when they began. yes this as these details of been emerging from a briefing that was given by south korea's by agency the national intelligence service to lawmakers here in seoul about developments at tongue chang reno this is as you mentioned there a site for the launch of satellites into space but also has been used for the testing of engines for ballistic missiles and there was a verbal agreement an undertaking a verbal undertaking last year from the north koreans that they would at least dismantle parts of this site well the intelligence briefing which seems to be corroborated now by sources in the u.s. based on satellite photos seems to indicate that they are in fact has been building going on at the site specifically the restoration of a doo

north korea continues to exercise. is there any sense among our korean allies, south korean allies that they are, you know, less likely to defend themselves or are they becoming too relaxed or at risk of being unprepared should the north koreans do something? >> congressman, absolutely not. iraq military continues to train intensely at echelon very capable, very highly trained, committed, dedicated professional force. they have not taken their foot off the gas. >> thank you. i yield back. >> recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, gentlemen, for being here this morning. thank you, mr. chairman. i just kind of want to follow up on that question as far as we go with the training. you know in the military drilling exercises, train, train, train, kind of like our piano teachers told us, practice makes perfect, that's what we're striving for. if we're canceling or downgrading some of the exercises we've traditionally done to prepare our forces there on the korean spence la, how are we making that up? how are we continuin

>> robin, to illustrate that point, you're one of the few journalists who has actually been in north korea. and remember reading something you wrote after -- maybe it was madeline albright's trip. and you talk about the depth and complexity of the north korean program, both missiles and nuclear -- just describe what, you know -- what we're talking about here. >> well, north korea began its program after the 1950s. we're going back more than seven decades. after dwight eisenhower warned north korea as well as china that he was prepared to use a nuclear weapon against them if they did not return to peace talks to end formally the korean war. and the north koreans did return to the negotiating table, but all they managed to agree on in what was the longest armisist negotiation in history was a temporary truce. and that truce has lasted for 70 years. so the issue is not just the denuclearization of north korea and elimination of its other chemical, biological weapons of mass destruction and intercontinental ballistic missiles, it's how do you ensure there is no conflict in the future. there is