korean -- over south korea and to come to south korea defense in the case of a nuclear attack from north korea. also to involve south korea as a partner in those discussions. we are going to see regular consultations between south korea and the united states on planning for possible nuclear war or other type of military act. the other thing it does is south korea has promised not to build its own nuclear weapons as a part of the agreement and i think that a significant because there has been growing because in south korea for their own nuclear weapons. south koreans are feeling very nervous about threats from north korea. have been wondering whether it united states would come to his defense. there are been calls for their own weapons. that will be a violation for the nuclear treaty. but this -- the agreement assures south koreans that the united states has its back and they are promising not to violate the agreement they signed. host: at our table this morning jean lee who spent time in south korea reporting for the associated press. she is also has a podcast about the money that goes into no

south korea's economy with north korea is comedy. why is it like if you live there? guest: in addition to covering south korea for many years, i also opened an office in north korea. spent many years traveling from north korea and i can tell you -- journalists have not been there in years. they shut the border at the beginning of the pandemic. that very few people and goods in which means -- let very few people and goods in which means this economy has been suffering. i want to give you comparisons. until the early 1970's, north korea was a stronger economy of the two koreas which is hard to believe. today, south korea has a per capita gdp that is above 40,000. it is among the wealthiest of country. north korea, we do not know exactly what their economy is because they do not public figures about the central bank of korea estimates as a per capita gdp of $1300. there's a huge contrast. we are not there right now and i'm not been there since 2017 but life is incredibly grueling. they do not have heat. they do not have electricity. they do not have roads, medicine, clea

is that on june the 25th 1950, north korea invaded south korea. we don't have a peace treating place just an armistice. absolutely right. south korea is an economic powerhouse. the sacrifice would be great pulling out of the m p t and developing nuclear weapons. there will be border lining sanity. of course, this is a very emotional reaction in though these people in the north are black mailing us, where the world stands, largest economy. why not have oral nuclear weapons. i disagree with the point that south korea is the only non nuclear power in the region. japan is not a nuclear power. south korea, of course, also relies on nuclear power and has the capability to re process and develop a nuclear weapons within about 12 months. remember, there is still article 9 of the japanese constitution that out laws the resolution of international disputes through arm conflict. so the price to pay would be great . south korea is not going nuclear. south korea in south koreans are going to be reassured by this state visit by president hewn to the white house

i was like, did i somehow go back to north korea? literally this is the exact same thing that i was in north korean classroom. my schoolteachers taught me that all the problems that we had in the world and the only solution for all the problems was a communist revolution. i was my at columbia university repeating exact same thing to me. so let's talk about how utopia socialist paradise looked like. and i often tell people i was born the darkest place in world and if you actually see the satellite of north korea nighttime, it is really the darkest place because. they don't have electricity. i have so many climate change activist friends in new york city. i tell them, please go to north korea because we have all every day. we don't have any pollution. we have an energy consumption. it is a literally utopia. they can imagine. so you will impact on nature. boring that country. the very thing that my mom told me as a young girl, don't even whisper. she said, because birds and mice. could you hear me? she said, the most thing that i had in

north korea is a black hole in the map of northeast asia. south korea, the world stands largest economy. according to a study by the asana institute, 63 percent of south koreans are in favor of developing a domestic deterrent. well, that would be a really tough proposition. south korea will have, would have to pull out of the non proliferation treaty, south korea, all of all the economy, all about some song, l, g and the successful companies, south korea would come under sanctions. so of course, this is a, an emotional reaction on the upside. south koreans are very interested in taking charge of their own national defense, which is great. but this recent moves of docking us nuclear submarines in the south korean force is more than just to show it reinforces the belief, confidence in extended deterrence based on a rock solid us rock alliance. and if you look at the washington declaration, what it says is that the republic of korea has full confidence in us extended deterrence commitments and recognizes the importers necessity and benefit every

the report documents a wide range of abuses in north korea. it is based on testimonies of 500 north korean defactors collected over the past five years. it records many cases of serious violations of international norm such as the universal declaration of human rights and other human rights agreements. unspeakable and horrendous incidents took place. men and women being shot and killed for violating prevention measures. some being publicly executed for watching and sharing south korean shows. and people being shot in public for possessing the bible and having faith. we need to raise awareness. we must inform the world of the gravity of north korea's human rights violations. i ask for your help in improving north korea's green condition. my friends, freedom and democracy are once again under threat. the war against ukraine is a violation of international law. . it is an attempt to unilaterally change the status quo with force. korea strongly condemns the unprovoked armed attack against ukraine. when north korea invaded us in 1950, democracies ca

and north korea and south korea among north korea, russia, china and then u.s./south korea/japan. these lines are getting drawn. no one is trying to draw them deliberately no one is going and drawing a red line but we are beginning to see lines get drawn makes for a much more precarious, uncertain environment in which to act. i think until north korea decides to open their borders there is not much anyone can really do. until they decide to make diplomats until north korea insist on its business community wants to engage in outside world again, until north korea is able to house and host safely humanitarian aid worker who can provide the desperate help that they need in terms of the well-being of their citizens there really is not that much makeup offered as incentives that we know might work. we might have to start maybe not completely over once north korea's rate open up with that we are going to have to be a lot more creative this time around. jump in may think nothing is right. over the course of the 10 years and jon own has been in power's weapons systems have become much mor

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but these diplomatic attempts to get north korea to talk, to get north korea to give up its nuclear weaponsd for many, many years, thus making the situation here on the peninsula more volatile. there is another thing that the government here in seoul is worried about today, and that's for the past week north korea has not been answering the phone to south korea. they have a military hotline that they use to touch in daily and that is to try and prevent any unintended clashes along the border here. don't forget, these countries are still technically at war. now, north korea tends to stop answering these calls when the relationship between the countries is particularly bad and this has led south korea to worry that this situation is deteriorating because of course when the two sides are communicating, there are ways to mitigate against misunderstandings, miscommunications and escalations. when that communication stops, things become more volatile. norway is expelling 15 russian diplomats who it accuses of operating as spies. all of them worked at russia's embassy in the norwegian capital, osl

the u.s., north korea and south korea by the month north korea, russia, china, and then the u.s.south korea-japan. these lies are getting drawn no one is trying to draw them deliberately. no one is goingre and crossing, and drawing a red line but we begin to see lines dating a drawn and makes for a much more precarious uncertain environment in which to act. i think until north korea decides to open its borders, there usually isn't thatt much anyone can really do. until north korea decides to meet diplomats, until north korea decides that its business community wants to engage the again, until north koreaag is able to house and hot safely humanitarian aid workers who can provide the desperate help that they need in terms of the well-being of their citizens, there really isn't that much we could offer as incentives that we knows might work. so i think we might even have to start, maybe not completely over, once north korea is ready to open up but we'll have to be a lot more creative this time around. >> and thanks. if i could jump in. i think kathy is right. over the course of the

the two presidents met with the nuclear threat from north korea high on their agenda. h korea and the us laid out a new agreement called the washington declaration aimed at deterring an attack on seoul. the bbc�*s seoul correspondent — jean mackenzie — explained what this agreement involves. so this deal is the us stepping up its commitment to use nuclear weapons to defend south korea from north korea. you know, the us is responsible for south korea's defence and are always up implied it would use nuclear weapons if necessary but recently people here in seoul have questioned that commitment and they needed part of its submarines, armed with nuclear weapons to the peninsular. it will be stationed here continually but it will come periodically. they will form the joint nuclear planning group and this allows south korea to be more involved in understanding how and when the us would use its nuclear weapons. politicians here essentially have been kept in the dark with little understanding of what would actually trigger the us president to trigger the nuclear button on its be

especially with north south korea. it's very clear that these kind of exercises are only likely to end bowden and also forced north korea to further toughen up their stance and also showcase their capability. so we, i think should only expect that this is only going to lead to another round of the missiles test. and also even the revelation of north korea's other mid military capabilities that have yet to be known by the outside world. in a way, is it an acknowledgment then that dialogue is not going to work with north korea and therefore enhanced security and military cooperation? is perhaps the only way i think this seems to be the direction, the south korea, japan and the united states. the united states are going into especially under the new south korean per president. he has been taking a much tougher line and stands against north korea attempts to try to intimidate south korea in japan. and also of course, the united states with the missile test and also weapons launches, because he believes that the only way to

north korea. why? what will happen? this _ north korea. why? what will happen?what will happen? this is what i - north korea. why? what will happen? this is what i cover| north korea. why? what will. happen? this is what i cover in my podcast and i hope people will be encouraged to go back and listen to season one because what we talk about is how north korea has invested in these young men and turned them into computer geniuses and kim jong—un is training a whole generation of young men to fight on the countries behalf with luck tops and this is a way of using science and technology which does actually really light a fire under north koreans as well. it is hard to imagine that in a country so cut off and i'll isolated does not have a regular source of electricity, most people are not connected to the internet that they have invested in a small group of men to become real computer geniuses. they sent many of them overseas as it workers with valid work visas. some are working as hackers so they may be it workers by david hacking by night. un security council in a

., , ., , , ., north korea? there does appear to be a lot _ north korea?ern, _ to be a lot of concern, especially on the part of south korea, and you have to look at president yoon's speech today before congress, mentioning north korea several times, saying, quote, "north korea is a serious threat and the country is determined to pursue a wrong path" but interestingly yoon also appearing to be open to dialogue or negotiations with north korea, saying so in his speech. but many observers say given the flurry of missile tests we've seen, a record number last year from north korea, and the determination on the part of the country to continue building its nuclear programme, even if the door were left open, north korea is unlikely to walk through it. bbc�*s carl nasman, great to talk to you. thousands of us and philippine troops have been taking part in one of the largest ever military exercises carried out by both countries. the exercises follow a deal announced earlier this year for us forces to use an increased number of bases in the philippines, including o

it's still pointed out, it's not just about the threat from north korea. e united states will be there as a close ally to south korea, no matter who is the american president. of course, with the former president donald trump talking about potentially pulling u.s. troops out of south korea. that resonated very strongly here. that concerned a lot of people, and this is really where some of that need for extra reassurance comes from as well. >> paula and phil, please stand by as we wait for the press conference from the rose garden. we have kylie atwood, and david sanger as well. kylie, starting with you, something we have yet to mention is the awkwardness in the room between yoon and president biden, they reveal details over ukraine, but also that officials were listening into private conversations that south korea was having. >> reporter: i think it surprised south korean public more than officials. it's a reality that the u.s. government will spy on its allies and adversaries around the world. nothing they said were not necessarily altogether that surprisi

territorial waters of japan, the japanese authorities declared that such tests are unacceptable and north koreasingly conducting missile tests only this year it made 30 such launches and south korea is just as outraged bvc correspondent working in seoul jean mckenzie spoke in more detail about the last launch it was a long-range missile like north korea launched this morning it is possible that it is an intercontinental ballistic missile these missiles can reach the mainland part of the us given the time frame this morning it could have landed very close to japanese territory anyway that's what the japanese government thought when they ordered the people immediately go to the shelter, however, then it became clear that it would not have landed too close, as north korea explained, what they usually do when they launch such missiles, they launch them into space, however, as this morning showed, the tension here is very high and people are getting more and more nervous. north korea has already released about 30 missiles this year and the rhetoric coming out of penian is getting more and more aggre

on that point with regards to north korea — korea. north korea upping its— korea. on that point with regards to north korea upping its nuclear - north korea upping its nuclear arsenal, how far do you think the us might go on that in terms of statements, accords, reassurances to south korea and the global community? l115 south korea and the global community?— south korea and the global community? south korea and the global communi ? ,, , ., , community? us officials have been briefin: community? us officials have been briefing reporters _ community? us officials have been briefing reporters in _ community? us officials have been briefing reporters in dc— community? us officials have been briefing reporters in dc about - community? us officials have been briefing reporters in dc about the l briefing reporters in dc about the deliberations have not been particularly clear or not elaborated on what this new pledge may mean. it's a bit unclear at this moment but certainly given the steady drumbeat of missile tests that we have seen, it's g

— do you think north korea will react to this? i think we shall exect react to this? t north _ react to this? i think we shall expect north korea _ react to this? i think we shall expect north korea to - react to this? i think we shall expect north korea to have l react to this? i think we shall - expect north korea to have some pretty strong words in that state media. we have not seen anything yet. kimjong—un, the leader of north korea, does use actions like this, for example, for example when they send a nuclear armed submarine in the waters, to use it as a justification. we are in a phase of tensions which will last through the 70 year anniversary of the signing of the armistice, coming up in july, and we will have tense weeks and months ahead and we should brace ourselves. what weeks and months ahead and we should brace ourselves.- should brace ourselves. what do ou think should brace ourselves. what do you think president _ should brace ourselves. what do you think president yoon - you think president yoon suk—yeol�*s visit in the united states say about its place

and that is because north korea and that is because north korea and that is because north korea has missile overjapan and into the pacific ocean to reach closer to the united states, to prove that it can, if it wants to, hit the us mainland. we don't know exactly what missile they have launched yet but this is a big week for north korea, they asked celebrating 11 years of the rule of kimjong—un and celebrating 11 years of the rule of kim jong—un and we know that they like to use these anniversaries to showcase military progress so it is quite possible that we will see in the coming hours or days that they have tested a new model of a more dangerous missile, potentially, because north korea is posing a greater and greater threat not only to japan but to south korea and to the united states, and it is developing weapons that are evermore sophisticated. south korea, japan and the united states today have urged north korea to stop the missile tests and to come back to the negotiating table, but these diplomatic attempts to get north korea to talk, to give up its nuclear weapons, korea t

korea's security and he also said that north korea is determined to pursue a wrong path, ao clearly esident is here is to try to reaffirm that security alliance with the united states. the us has had that 70—year—long partnership with south korea. a big part of that has had to do with the protection of south korea and the promise that it would come to its aid if there were some sort of threat from north korea, and it does feel to many as if that threat is growing. a record number of missile tests coming from north korea last year, a growing and strengthening nuclear programme. so i believe that the feeling is that even if north korea were to have that door open to it, it may not necessarily want to walk through that door, given the recent success that it's had. yeah, absolutely. karl, it's interesting as well, the growing ties, the closer ties, i think it's fair to say, between washington and seoul, particularly under the biden administration. what's your sense of how that relationship is playing out, what form it might take in the future? well, everyone on both sides of the aisle, f

and how they deal with north korea. oast appear to have avoided major damage from a storm that's moving inland. cyclone ilsa made landfall in the town of port hedland last night, but avoided the most populated areas. it's the most powerful to hit the region in over a decade. live now to cason ho, an abc reporter from port hedland in western australia. it is definitely a lucky myth, we are in one of the major population centres that was able to avoid the rafter of cyclone ilsa. it left quite a bit of devastation to the cattle stations. we saw some places that had buildings that were completely swept away overnight, completely swept away overnight, completely vanished. the damage there was quite a sight to see. some flooding in some of those cattle stations as well. as cyclone ilsa travels on land that is weakening, which means that there is less destructive winds but we are still expecting to see heavy rain and wind as that system moves towards the rest, the centre of australia. we still can expect to see some of that pot

obviously, they're very important to diplomatically isolate north korea, but it's been reported in the japanese media recently the north korean vessels arrival to still carry out smuggling operations by operating through 3rd parties and dark. how the companies wave goods from japan are actually shipped out and indirectly through going through places like china. in some countries in south korea, they're actually eventually able to get to law north korea. and of course, a soft tissue li trading still happens. you know, we've got russia and china, so there seems to be limits to how much sanctions can actually have on north korea, a diplomatic from russia. and particularly c q in security council is i had no doubt the set to increased remark. we very much appreciate your insights here now to 0. thank you. thank you very much. to ireland now where large crowds welcome to us present, joe biden. as he began at 3 date, the stallion top of the country, ah, widen, visited the town of dun doke. he's in the region to visit his ancestral roots. earlier, he was given a tour of concord castle by iris

and how they deal with north korea. let's look at some of the day's other news. the white house has condemned republicans in florida for passing a bill that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. a statement from washington described the legislation as extreme and dangerous. florida currently allows terminations up to 15 weeks after conception. the launch of the european space agency'sjuice mission is set to take place later. it aims to discover whether jupiter's icy moons are capable of hosting extraterrestrial life. the mission was postponed for 2h hours due to bad weather. a powerful tropical storm has hit the north west coast of australia. cyclone ilsa made landfall in the town of port hedland last night, but avoided the most populated areas. residents have been told to stay indoors as the storm continues to move inland. our correspondent in sydney, phil mercer, gave us this update. well, this was the first category five cyclone — that's as severe as it gets in the current grading system — to cross western aus

when i went to a l daughter songmi when i went to a trip to the demilitarised zone between north and south korea stories but what songmi told me the details of her as i wasjust songmi told me the details of her as i was just blown away. the details as we are about to hear of how she was left in north korea as a child by her mother and she had to escape on her own and reunite with her mother years later, i thought we had to tell the story but i was desperate obviously to meet her mother as well and i really wanted to bring the pair of them together to bring the pair of them together to hear her mother's side of things and what she had gone through but that was a lot harder because the pair were rebuilding their relationship and it was very delicate but we were able to convince them to meet us together and bring them together so the pc are about see shows the conversation we were able to have with them. there are days songmi still doesn't believe she is living with her mother. what she has endured to be here made it seem like this day would never come. songmi was four years old when her mother tri

once again, north korea must cease its provocations in take the right path.th the us will continue to work for north korean denuclearisation. the bbc�*s carl nasman is at capitol hill he told me more what the south korean president had to say. it was an interesting comment, delivering those remarks behind me on capitol hill earlier today and the second half of his speech which lasted around 30 minutes, he mentioned north korea several times specifically calling out the threats saying that north korea poses a, quote, series start to the south korean security and also said that north korea is determined to pursue a wrong path. so clearly top of mind. one of the reasons why south korean president is here is to try and reconfirm that security alliance with the united states. the us has had that 70 year long partnership with south korea and has had to deal with the production of south korea, the promise that it would come to the aid if there were some sort of threat from north korea. it does feel to many as if that that threat is growing, a record number of missil

it tensions between the south and north korea-— north korea.to be with you. let _ north korea. it is good to be with you. let me _ north korea. it is good to be with you. let me just - north korea. it is good to be i with you. let me just beginning iiy with you. let me just beginning by saying that i find it ironic that north korea would characterise a furthering of the alliance between the us and south korea as somehow increasing tensions on the peninsula. it is north korea thatis peninsula. it is north korea that is the source of the tension that we see and feel on the peninsula today. the washington declaration, this agreement at your talk about, is significant, and is not about bringing it korea nuclear power, ballistic missile submarines, which is what is it about, but it is also and more importantly about the insurers that president biden gave to the president of south korea of our extended nuclear deterrence, that we were to extend the capability to south korea. ., extend the capability to south korea. . . ,, ., . extend the capability t

yeah, this does seem to be our provocative their launch of a larger miss are by north korea. it was detected just before $730.00 local time there thursday morning and being launched from close to the north, korean capital pyongyang, which is where they have launched a larger longer range missiles from ad before. now, when it was detected, they're flying eastwards as, as invariably, these missiles do flying over the seas that separate the korean peninsula from japan. that's when the japanese authorities issued this are a warning across how cato and day we see various clips on social media of the sirens being sounded in various towns and cities on the northern island of ha, kato, i warning people that are that the flight of this missile that a would soon about to land that with the concern, i think, by the authorities, that there was a chance that maybe i would land on or close to her kato itself before. now, north korea has on some of its more provocative tests, more missiles over the top of her kato, out into the pacific ocean. as it turned out, people were told to take shelt

sokyul was self -restraint seoul needs help to confront north korea, which is why he sees in congressriends. we need to speed up trilateral security cooperation between south korea, the us and japan, to counter the growing nuclear threat from north korea, but it would turn out to be much faster on the eve of presidents juice yule, and biden. they agreed that the united states would protect south korea in the event of a nuclear attack. strike pyongyang biden. he even promised north korea a change of power if something like this happens a nuclear attack by north korea against the united states or its allies and partners is unacceptable and will lead to the end of the regime if it decides to do this for the nuclear deterrence of pyongyang, the united states will send for the first time since the early eighties. to korean ports their submarines with ballistic missiles on board from a military point of view. this, of course, is a senseless step . ballistic missiles with a range of 7.5 thousand kilometers will reach north korea. even from some areas of the atlantic but for visual intimidati

and his address will come after the key agreement, aimed at deterring north korea. e united states has agreed to give insight to nuclear planning and there's a u.s. commitment to deploy a nuclear-armed submarine in south korea for the first time since the 1980s. in agreement, south korea will not pursue its own nuclear arsenal. >> translator: president biden has confirmed his ironclad commitment to south korea. our two countries have agreed to immediate bilateral consultizations and will use the full force of the alliance, including the united states' nuclear weapons. >> on the back of this deal, there's two open-ended questions. will this deal be enough to reassure south koreans? opinion polls have showed a majority of people in south korea support their country having its own nuclear weapons. analysts say it remains to be seen if they're going to be satisfied with this agreement. and the critical question, of course, is it going to work? is the deal going to deter north korea? we know last year, north korea fired a number of missiles. it continues to fire more weap

and how they deal with north korea. to hit the region in over a decade. our correspondent in sydney, phil mercer, gave us this update. well, this was the first category five cyclone — that�*s as severe as it gets in the current grading system — to cross western australia�*s coastline since 2009. so this clearly is the most powerful tropical storm to hit that part of the country in well over a decade. now, a record wind speed was also recorded. so this was a tropical storm that was packing an almighty punch, but, mercifully, it avoided the most populated towns and communities in that part of the north—western coast of western australia. if you look at a map of australia, about a third of the continent is covered by the state of western australia. so the area we�*re talking about is towards the north—western tip of western australia, and this cyclone is now tracking inland. it�*s now been downgraded to a category two storm, but it�*s still a huge danger to those communities in its path, raising the risk of those destructi

and south korean cooperation amid north korea's escalating threats. rrespondents are covering this meeting from washington to korea. cnn's arlette saenz is joining us from the white house. cnn's jeff zeleny is in washington, d.c. for us and paula hancocks is live from seoul, south korea. let us start with arlette. can you tell us what is happening at this hour? we heard the band playing the last time we spoke to you not too long ago. what's going on there now? >> sarah, any minute now we are expecting south korean president yoon arriving at the white house setting off the pomp and circumstance that president biden is holding for him, but it also comes as the two leaders are set to announce a significant agreement when it comes to efforts to try to deter north korea's nuclear capabilities. this comes at a time when officials say north korea has continued its nuclear provocations and this agreement which is called the washington declaration. the two leaders will unveil over the course of the day and one key element of it includes deploying strategic asse

how do you seek to manage the north korea risk amid obligations to ukraine and nato? thank you. president biden: let me respond to your question first. my desire to increase u.s. manufacturing and jobs in america is not about china. i'm not concerned about china. remember, america invented semiconductors. we invented them. we used to have 40% of the market. we decided that what we are going to do over the past i don't know how many decades, we decided it was going to be cheaper to export jobs and import product. along game the pandemic. the pandemic taught us we used to have 40% of the market, some years ago, now it's down to 10%. again we invented it. i decided to go out and see what we could do to increase our hold on the market once again. i went around the country, as well as an additional passing in chips and science act. in fact, i visited countries around the world. and two significant south korean companies decided they are going to invest billions of dollars in chip manufacturing in the united states. it wasn't designed to hurt china. it was designed we didn't have to w

our message to both north korea _ influence. our message to both north korea and _ influence.ence. our message to both north korea and china is - influence. our message to both north korea and china is we - north korea and china is we would like to maintain the status quo. we in the united states are not looking for confrontation, but what we are looking for is a reduction in the aggressiveness that we see out of north korea, a reduction in the aggressiveness that we see out of the prc, and let's find ways to work together. # a long, long time ago... and now, with yoon�*s six—day trip wrapping up soon, it's clear he will be leaving on a high note. # music used to make me smile... applause we have some breaking news from the ukraine. we are hearing that explosions have been sounding in the region surrounding the capital of kyiv. that is according to local telegram channels weather has some activity stop currently there are no details yet on which targets have been struck or which damage there has been, if there have possibly been any casualties, the city's military administrati