>> north koreans are in a interesting position. legitimateto be the government of korea. you have two regimes that are very different. , south korea is 40 times as large as north korea is. the number of cell phones in south korea, 1.3 per person. don't ask me why that third of a cell phone is important. talking lesswe are than 10% of people have cell phones. a situation where north korea has been sanctioned by the united nations frequently and at the same time, south korea has a former foreign minister who is the secretary general of the united nations. a south korean diplomat was present -- was president of the human rights council. these countries are vying for legitimacy to make the claims that they are the government of all korea. north korea is in a real bind. it has very little to make that claim. with very little regard to human rights, the north koreans are very sensitive about what is going on. ,hen they were first criticized they made suggestions that they tried to make progress on areas that were not sensitive lyrically, dealing with the issue of people with dis

like the north korean people, the cuban people deserve better. north korea represents a great security threat. it shows how proliferation of a deadly technology can allow small leaders, failed, cruel, and criminal leaders, to threaten and disrupt the world on a grand scale. but every successful missile test advances, from seoul to tokyo to across the pacific. there is no easy policy solutions. but any serious response must begin by accepting reality. there is no way to detach ourselves from events in east asia. our future and the future of that region are closely linked. eventually, there is no isolation from proliferation, no safety and distance. north korea also presents the greatest sustained humanitarian challenge of our time. the whole country is a prison run by sadistic -- the north korean people have suffered decades of oppression and famine and violence. i controlling access to the broader world, the north korean government has tried to make this nightmare seem normal to its victims. some argue that the spirit of the north korean people ha

all north korean people know that there is a prison camps. a. and it is a kind of... ..one part of everyday life in north korea, that if you commit any crimes, which is the threat to the system, then you will be sent to these prison camps. thousands of families in pyongyang were all sent to the prison camps. not one or two, thousands of families were sent to prison camps. there is a new president in washington with a very different tone and maybe policy. and your former country is much closer to having nuclear weapons. what do you think should be done? the trump administration should not acknowledge the status of north korea as a nuclear power, because what the kim jong—un regime wants to achieve is bring a kind of compromise between north korea and america. so, the american administration should not fall in this trap. don't do deals? don't do deals, and they should continue to push the sanctions and the world community should continue its concerted effort to sanction north korea, so that north korea should give up the nuclear weapons programm

from our respective, this is a threat notwithstanding, whether it is north koreans see themselves as threatened, we see the threat. we see the possibility of some north korea adventure, and they do provocations at sea, they do shelledthe dmz, they an island. one of those incidents could escalate, and now we are talking about north korea with nuclear weapons and building an arsenal and diversifying the delivery capability. they will be a real nuclear weapons state. probably 10ng now or 15 nuclear weapons and by the ends this new president administration may be 50 or 100 nuclear weapons. .his is a serious situation we have known for a long time that possibility of a conventional conflict could turn into a nuclear conflict. other threats that are obvious that they haven't icbm capability -- they have an icbm capability. but directly, the cubs middle of the u.s. comes within their range. there is a possibility that just the program provokes a nuclear weapons program in japan or north korea who may feel uncomfortable relying on the american. --l the new president under for example undermin

i found in my dealings with north korean that the north koreans despite their retic rhetoric do not likee china. i think they are are afraid of china than they are united states. a lot of their program is wantsing to take control of their own defense not to rely on china. i would be happy if trump, the trump administration reaches out to the north koreans during the george w. bush years and subsequents went talk to them in the same room. but the north koreans have wanted to talk to the united states and the president-elect on campaign trail said he would have a hamburger with kim jong-un, i don't think that's going to happen but i think the administration is go to str to reach out this some way directly to the north koreans. >> go ahead sir. >> if i can jump in, i spent 35 or 40 negotiating sessions with the north koreans when were not cham roan bied the north koreans i have went to talk with them to view that their facilities. i don't think the problem is we have not chase face-to-face respect to the north koreans. the problem is they are not interested in giving up their weapons. the i

a high ranking north korean defector tells the bbc kim jong—un‘s grip on power won't last forever.asia madera, in london. a row down under — there's a brewing backlash over australia day and we'll tell you why. it's been called the vanuatuan romeo and juliet. we'll talk to one of the directors of the oscar—nominated film, tanna. live from studios in singapore and london, this is bbc world news. it's newsday. it's 9am in singapore, 1am in london and 8pm in washington dc, where donald trump has been outlining how he plans to make good on two of his controversial campaign promises. he's pledged that construction of a new wall, to run the length of the us—mexican border, will begin within months. he's also signed an executive order increasing the number of staff to patrol that frontier. but the white house has distanced itself from suggestions there could be a return to some of the more extreme security measures which were dropped under president obama. james cook reports. donald trump's vision of a fortress america the new president ordered the construction of the great wall on the me

government has added the younger sister of north korean leader kim jong-un to its sanctions list. kim yo jong is being sanctioned because of her part in human rights abuses and censorship. north korea's state planning commission was also added to the list. any assets held in the united states belonging to these officials or organizations will be frozen and financial dealings with u.s. citizens will be banned. the decision to expand sanctions was taken in response to a recent u.s. government report. human rights abuses and rigid censorship policies of the north korean regime as well as attempts to conceal its oppressive behavior. the u.s. government had previously added 16 north korean organizations and seven officials to its sanctions list in december. >>> officials at south korea's defense ministry say north korea has increased its stockpile weapons grade plutonium but revised their assessment of the north's ability to threaten the u.s. mainland with missiles. the ministry's 2016 white papers says pyongyang has about 50 kilograms of plutonium, 10 kilograms more than the previous r

and china should handle that problem. >> offering his own blunt assessment of the north korean leader you have the guy in north korea, and he's probably crazy. >> something donald trump and the current director of the cia appear to agree on when it comes to kim. >> he is delusional, because he believes that the world is going to accept a nuclear north korea and allow it to maintain that arsenal. >> u.s. war plans have long detailed a strike option, bombing the regime if it poses an immediate nuclear threat. but the intelligence community warns, the u.s. may have few cards to play. >> i think the notion of getting the north koreans to denuclearize is probably a lost cause. >> there is intelligence showing how far kim has moved ahead. >> the north koreans are very close to being able to make a nuclear weapon to their longest-range missiles and hit the united states. >> the north koreans have already tested an intercontinental long-range missile but it had a satellite on the front end not a war head. north korea claims it's already tested a miniaturized warhead for an icbm. u.s. official

you can be treated fairly. >> reporter: kim and her husband are among the estimated 30- thousand north korean defectors living in south korea today, according to the south korean government. after defectors arrive, the government trains them in social customs and job skills, and gives resettlement payments to assist with housing and education costs. park hopes one day north koreans like him will be able to enjoy the liberties he has found in south korea. >> ( translated ): in the north you're not even allowed to visit neighboring villages freely, even if you have money. you have to ask for permits from the government and you're allowed to travel only on certain dates. we are the generation to prepare for the unification of the koreas. >> sreenivasan: american public opinion of the news media reached a low point last september, when only a third of americans surveyed told the gallup poll they had a great amount or fair amount of trust in the media. that was 8% lower than 2015. for some insight into what the news media can do to restore and improve public confidence, "newshour weekend"'s christ

the north koreans are threatening to "for further misery on the u.s." d a warning coming 49 years after north korea captured a navy ship. the uss pueblo. this as south korea warns that the north is developing nuclear weapons at an unprecedented pace. gordon changes in asia analyst and author of an aptly titled book, as we have pointed out often. what is notable as we have heard north korea off and on over the last several years, but why do you think this particular warning is notable? >> this comes at the beginning of the trump administration. the north koreans obviously want to test what his intentions are toward them, and the other thing is that the chinese are helping the north koreans. the chinese have provided new rear weapons technology, missile material, all sorts of plans for mobile missile launchers and other things, so basically, we are facing a challenge not just from them but beijing as well. >> jenna: in the best possible scenario when you look at the best possible response with such a threat or actual missile test, what would that look like

america's incoming president has rejected north korean claims of developing a nuclear missile capablejong—un that preparations had reached the final stage. so—called islamic state fighters also claim they carried out a series of car bombings in the iraqi capital baghdad. the most deadly hit a busy square in the eastern shia district of sadr city. at least 35 people were killed. brazilian officials say 56 inmates have been killed in a prison riot. the fighting broke out between rival drug gangs at the jail in manaus

a high—ranking north korean diplomat who defected last year, has told the bbc he believes kimjong un e prepared to use nuclear weapons. thae yong—ho says north korea doesn't yet have working nuclear weapons, but it's getting closer and he believes kim would press the button if backed into a corner. mr thae was speaking to our correspondent in seoul stephen evans. my relatives, my brother and sisters' families, by now all sent to either remote, closed areas or prison camps, you know? so that really breaks my heart. that's why i'm very much now determined to do everything possible to pull down the north korean regime. in order to save, not only my family members, but the whole north korean people from slavery. if, when kimjong un gets the bomb properly and missiles to deliver, is he capable of pressing that button and destroying los angeles? 0h, kimjong un knows quite well that... nuclear weapons is the only guarantee for his rule. kimjong un, i think, will press the button of this dangerous weapon when he thinks that his rule and his dynasty is threatened, to be collapsed. how do you t

it actually plays into the hands of north koreans but wanted to do everything to destroy sony.was deeply damaging and public policy value of the e-mail was negligible or nonexistent. fast-forward to thfast forward e important situation where you have the dnc and podesta e-mails. i had conversations along with my editors of the major newspapers and the argument i was trying to make unsuccessfully once i am not going to say that you should never publish something that is the result of a foreign adversarial packing and stealing to manipulate public opinion. there may be things of such interest where you feel compelled to publis publish butt should never be done without the context. all of the coverage when you are going to be publishing the documents should begin with an document packed by the russians are believewere believed to be y the russians for the purposes of the democracy it was learned that so the readers can evaluate why they are being given misinformation. and i also think in terms of the congress we need to think long and hard about something president obama said duri

alreadyonald trump has tweaked the north koreans, the north koreans have tweaked him back.he chinese are supposed to have influence on north korea. what risks do you see from the north korean nuclear program? cliff: the risk is north koreans are finally making real progress on the nuclear weapons program. putting a warhead on a missile and developing a missile to reach the u.s. west coast. that is a redline. as the u.s. pressures china to crack down on north korea, they could refuse. if the u.s. considers military options, they will see tremors throughout the region. laura: very alarming. and you have a threat of technology in the middle east. what is the connection? connection is for all the troubles in the middle east, people have missed the intersection of technology and middle eastern contracts. oil makes money, money makes stability. revolution iting is making oil prices low. it is good here, but in the middle east and lets bad guys talk to each other. automation, robots, puts countries with young people -- unemployment is worse. technology will make the middle east mo

make a nuclear weapon to their longest-range missiles and hit the united states. >> reporter: the north koreans have already tested an intercontinental long-range missile, but it had a satellite on the front end, not a warhead. and north korea claims it's already tested a miniaturized warhead for the icbm. u.s. officials say they can't verify that but have to work under the assumption if's true. north korea has conducted five underground nuclear tests. another could happen at any time with little or no warning u.s. intelligence officials say. but north korea still has to master the technology to assure its icbm can hit a specific target. one traditional strategy, sanctions relief in exchange for pressuring kim to give up portions of his nuclear program, ease sanctions, put more money in his pocket, but a north korean defector said kim is not interested in money. he wants the world to recognize him as a nuclear super power. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> on the eve of a new session of congress, u.s. house republicans voted to gut the independent ethics office. lawmakers ignored the house s

certainly, attacking it could invite attack from the north koreans.ou have to remember that there artillerynorth korean tubes. i will finally say that donald trump needs to work with china, but it is not going well. >> will he have to change his stance towards china? >> presidents have understood the importance of working with china on the regional and global problems and i hope that the new president understands that we and io set priorities would put working with north korea and china as a top priority. >> what about his style? this could be his first foreign policy test. handle it? >> we will see, but i have never seen foreign policy in the form of tweetds. he will have to explain how this will not happen. i think what he has to do is put together a team. rex tillerson is going forward pretty soon to a senate committee. he will have to get together and asian team.-- an s working within existing systems, like the six party talks, that has not really happened and i think that he has a lot of work to do in the next few weeks. >> thank you for joining

in order to save not only my family members but the whole north korean people from slavery.b properly and missiles to deliver, is he capable of pushing back button and destroying los angeles? kim jong-un knows quite well that nuclear weapons are the only guarantee for his rule and kim jong—un weapons are the only guarantee for his rule and kimjong—un i think will press the button of this dangerous weapon when he thinks that his rule and his dynasty is threatened to be collapsed. how do you think kim jong—un will end his days? is he going to die peacefully in his own bed? know. how? i'm sure that kim jong—un's regime in his own bed? know. how? i'm sure that kimjong—un's regime one in his own bed? know. how? i'm sure that kim jong—un's regime one day will collapse by people's uprising. what do you miss about britain? your life in britain seemed to me to be very english in lots of ways, you played tennis at a rather nice suburban tennis club. what do you miss about your life there? suburban tennis club. what do you miss about your life there ?|j suburban tennis club. what do yo

the degree to which we are electronically wired, integrated, even far more rudimentary tools the north koreans have that could wreak a lot of havoc on us. so in that case what i was advocating was that we do what gets north korea's attention, which is we began an effort to get good information to the north korean people about just how bad their regime is. so that they know if they mess with us again, they are going to have more of their citizens exposed to how they are starving their own people and just what kind of a terrible bureaucratic desperate autocratic ruler they have. i think we do need to respond. we don't want to respond and december russians are attacking us and our allies, but i also think that it's so vitally important that we make common cause with the freedom of people around the world. and i think our title as leader of the free world is at risk when we cozy up to the kremlin, when we tell our friends that we may not have their backs. i think this causes our european allies try to make common cause with the kremlin, try to cut deals perhaps in the arab world with the russians.

who knows what could happen with regard to that given the north korean capabilities. maybe he is hopeful china could intervene. china still has influence in north korea. donald trump keeps saying he'll rely on china to get the job done. we'll see if that happens. >>> congressman, please stand by. we have breaking news coming into "the situation room" right now. the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, is questioned as part of a criminal investigation into alleged corruption. stand by. we have new details and the prime minister's reaction right after this. -and--a . >>> there is breaking news out of israel right now where police say the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has been interrogated in a criminal investigation. republican congress lee zeldin is back with us. he is a member of the foreign affairs committee. we'll get his reaction. i want to get the latest from jerusalem. cnn's oren liebermann is on the story for us. oren, tell the viewers what's going on. >> reporter: prime minister benjamin netanyahu is officially a suspect in a criminal investigatio

we begin an effort to get good information to the north korean people just how bad their regime is so they know if they mess with us again they'll have more of their citizens exposed to how they're starving their own people and what a terrible autocratic rule they have. we need to respond. we don't want to respond in the same way the russians are attacking us and our allies, but i also think that it's so vitally important that we make common cause with the freedom loving people around the world and i think our title as the leader of the free world is at risk when we cozy up to the kremlin. when we tell our friends that we may not have their backs, i think this causes our european allies to try to make a common cause with the kremlin and try to cut deals perhaps in the arab world. that would be a terrible turn of events not just for us, but for people all over the world. >> what is your and honestly among your colleagues, not even some modest show of criticism or concern about the activity about moscow and vladimir putin. >> for all the reasons we've been discussing, this is enormously

that was thae yong—ho, a north korean diplomat who defected last yearfrom its london embassy. women in north korea. she's been here watching that interview with us. good morning. you have seen what the diplomat has revealed about north korea. what do you think about what he said? firstly i would like to say to him congratulations. i totally agreed with him. he said that north korea is not a democratic country. it isa korea is not a democratic country. it is a slavery country. i totally agree with him. he said that he watched south korea's shows and drama and listened to south korea radio. him and the media... is that how you would describe how you felt when you are living there, you were brainwashed? yes. i lived in north korea. we always learned about the kim families, their histories. we a lwa ys kim families, their histories. we always respected to him. we always showed happiness to them. even when you are experiencing salmon. you witnessed members of your own family dying of starvation, but you had to respect that family? yes, i saw my family die in front of me. ijust hated

and what's more important, i think the north koreans may well think about trying an attempt at this sortng. >> reporter: they've done it before. january 1968. armed with these weapons, dressed in south korean uniforms, north korean commandos infiltrated the south, trying to kill south korea's president. they got to within 350 feet of the blue house. but in a furious gun battle nearly 60 soldiers from both sides were killed. if the south koreans target kim now, how would he respond? >> i would guess that he doesn't go into hiding because of that particular statement by the south, but instead he plays it and tries to demonstrate he's as prepared to escalate even sooner and prepared to be even crazier than the south and he has the advantage he can make that argument credibly. >> reporter: analysts say if kim does eventually go into hiding in the vent of a war during some kind of a decapitation strike he's got a large network of tunnels and bunkers built by his father and grandfather. experts point out in the early days of the iraq war when the allies were targeting saddam hussein and his in

to make a nuclear weapon to longest range missiles and hit the united states. >> reporter: the north koreansan intercontinental long range missile but it had a satellite on the front end, not a war head. north korea claims it has tested a miniaturized war head for icbm. u.s. officials say they can't verify that but have to work under the assumption it is true. north korea has conducted five underground nuclear tests, another could happen at any time with little or no warning, u.s. intelligence officials say. north korea still has to master the technology to assure its icbm can hit a specific target. >> a traditional strategy offering kim sanctions relief in exchange for concessions of his nuclear program essentially putting more money in his pocket may not work this time. a recent defector said kim is not interested in money. he wants the world to recognize him as a nuclear superpower. >> thank you. outfront now. you were talking about the goal here and the assessment. they are going to get a nuclear missile that can hit the mainland of the united states. trump's tweet tonight north korea st

those always wild the north korean s. is that when they might test it? the president is going to be faced with either trying to take a military action to stop them from testing, going with the policy of crippling sanctions which is failed or doing something he said he's willing to do, reach out and negotiate with kim jong-un. >> you think is third is the right thing? >> i think it's the only way to go. one that threatens sanctions, puts on more sungss banctions b reaches out to north korea to try to arrest their program, freeze it where it is. >> what do you think of that? you have to talk to the north koreans, nothing else has worked. >> we always say sanctions don't work until they work. if they come back to the table, we'll say they worked. until they come back to the table, we'll say they failed. first is we have these two new elements of sanctioning. one are the commitment by the chinese to reduce coal imports from north korea and provide them with a lot of hard currency they could use for their nuclear program and the other is the new treasury fina

you know, we don't know, because we don't have insight into what the north korean leader did in sony for example. we think it's pretty unusual. >> ken delaney, i have to leave it there. thank you for talking with me.

this weekend, north korean leader kim jong un says the next missile test is in its final stages. >>> a new suspension bridge in china claims now to be the

scientists, you asked them about the options and they see the options are limited because the north korean programme is buried, it is dispersed and it is protected. bunker buster bombs cannot be relied upon and special forces operations, you bombs cannot be relied upon and specialforces operations, you know, you cannot predict how they will go and you cannot bank on them. city experts then say what is much more likely to happen are things we may not even know about, the insertion of viruses in computer programmes, for example, like happened with the run, or maybe the assassination of scientists as well as is supposed to have happened with the rhyme. the

could use the historical history thatal they have with north korea uniquely to try to reach the north koreaneadership. that has not borne fruit. , everyone i have talked to -- everyone i have talked to, they remind me of how they have elevated the threat of north korea. carter: let me put it this way. north korea has always been -- and i have been doing this for a long time and i have forked for the first time on the north korean more palin -- korean war plan. i was a different circumstance at a different time. -- that was a different circumstance at a different time. we have spent money and made careful plans to stay one step ahead of north korea. built sense that we have missile defenses and expectations that they may develop missiles that are longer and longer range. that is why you see us increasing the number and the technological sophistication of the missile defenses of our country. that is why ucs building new defenses in south korea and japan, in guam. charlie: giving them the same kind of defense system we have, the state-of-the-art defense system. ourselvesr: operating . had theh

a former north korean diplomat has told the bbc he thinks president kim jong—un would be prepared toaunch a nuclear attack on america if under pressure. and this story is getting a lot of attention online. facebook is changing its ‘trending' feature and will no longer tailor the section to people's own interests. it will use a more traditional list of the most popular current events. that's all from me now. stay with bbc news. and the top story here in the uk: theresa may says government will publish its plans for brexit in a white paper. the prime minister wants to trigger article fifty before the end of march. now to singapore. the dowjones scores 20,000 for the first time ever. is this the trump effect? and why india's universities are banning some start—ups from recruiting on their campuses. good morning, asia. hello, world. it is thursday. glad you could join us. we kick off with wall street, where us stocks crossed a major milestone. the dowjones us stocks crossed a major milestone. the dow jones industrial average finishing above 20,000 for the first time ever and you also hav

and they, you no he, the north koreans to us, all north korean children are taught that we're the enemy, the devil. so our ability to influence north korean thinking except through deterance is not great. therefore when it came to the diplomatic approach, the theory behind the so called six party talks in which china was a part is that they could use the historical and idea logical history that they have with northed korea, uniquely to try to reach the north korean leadership. they have now, that-- that has not borne freult. >> rose: everywhere i talk, including a week of exit conversations here in washington and new york, they remind me of how they have elevated the threat of north korea. >> well, yeah, we certainly do, let me put it this way, charlie, when north korea has always been, and i have been doing this for a long time, and i remember working for the very first time on the north korea warplane -- war plan in 1994. >> it was argued at one point that you were in favor of taking out their facilities. >> that was a different circumstances, a different time. but the-- we have staye

how does the north korean regime hear that?it become almost like a challenge or a threat to disprove? >> they certainly listen to these defectors. they really go after them, they go after anybody who has ever had any association with them. if you are a defector and left north korea there is a considerable amount of trauma. often they say things that we may want to hear, but it's not sure, really, whether they're true. in his case, to talk about the crumbling of the state structure there, i hope it's true, but i am not convinced of it yet. it seems kim jong un, hideous has he has been, is very much in charge there. and i don't think we have any reason to hope, at least in the short run, that it's all going to be taken care of. >> so what is the right policy now to check north korea? there was a time candidate donald trump basically implied this needs to be china's problem. he is not the first to say that. i mean, there is a lot president obama, in different ways saying, hey, isn't this your client state? you need to take care of

what was the difference between iran and the north korean case. in iran's case they didn't have nuclear weapons yet. and so focusing on keeping them from getting to that point made enormous amount of sense. and a combination of sanctions and sabotage that we've talked about before delayed the day and allowed a negotiated settlement. in north korea's case they have a nuclear weapon. there is no doubt about that. they have done five or six nuclear tests. the last one, what little we can tell to be pretty successful. >> it does mean it's small enough to put on a warhead. >> it doesn't mean the warhead could survive reentry on an icbm when you've got a lot of things that could go wrong. but it does mean that it's sort of too late to focus on the actual weapon. so you've got to focus on the means of delivery. and you've got to focus on the combination of whether you can actually make a weapon small. >> what is the red line? >> well, i would think that at the moment that kim jung unput a missile a few hundred miles off of the california coast, did somet

. >>> a high profile north korean defector is speaking out against kim jong-un. e have began to outwardly criticize the government, something unheard of now. diplomats are waiting in europe to defect. it all comes as north korea says it's ready to launch an intercontinental ballistic missile at any time. >> hello from north korea, the ever defiant country. there may be a new president of the united states, but there is no sign of the new policy here. either on nuclear weapons or on missile launches. i've just had the chance to do an exclusive interview with one of kim jong-un's top officials, a man who deals with american affairs, and he told me that north korea is ready to fire a long range missile for the first time at any time, he said. now, if that happened, it would be a big challenge to president trump because this would be the first time north korea has demonstrated the ability to fire an icbm. its program is to mount a nuclear weapon on an icbm capable of reaching the west coast of the united states. there's no sign at the moment that north korea can do th

certainly have made progress in building important diplomatic support to apply pressure to the north korean regime to limit their ability to continue to develop this program but also to give them an incentive to change their strategy. they haven't yet but we are going to continue to apply that pressure. our advice to the next administration i think will largely be to listen to the advice of our military commanders about what's necessary to protect the american people with regard to our deployments in the pacific and to look for opportunities to work effectively with countries like china and russia and our allies, south korea and japan, to apply pressure to north korea to make clear that they should renounce their nuclear ambitions and put an end to the kind of destabilizing rhetoric we have seen all too often emanate from the north korean capital. >> thank you. on a separate issue, the white house's reaction to the congressional republicans' decision to curtail and then not curtail the office of congressional ethics today. is this one of those perhaps rare instances where you agree with pre

that has the ability to get the north koreans really agitated, and you could imagine that the north koreansary backyard and create accidents. >> rose: so what if the u.s. would take out whatever nuclear facilities they have, take them out militarily, what would happen? >> maybe nothing, right? >> rose: i mean, wouldn't the rest of the world applaud? >> a lot of the world would applaud. let's see where the south koreans are at that point. we have a south korean president that is going to be forced out, and she's quite likely going to be replaced in quick elections with the opposition in south korea. south korea suddenly will be working more closely with the north koreans. japan will feel isolated. trump will seem like he's pushing. >> countries aren't as convinced that united states is there for them over the long term, but still obama is right that when you look around the world, there are a lot of countries that would like to see more u.s. you ask if they will get it under the trump administration, the answer for most of them is no. >> rose: in the middle east, that includes the sunni coun

and its allies should hesitate to hit north korean missiles on the launch pad would be the threat ofe would launch a massive conventional attack on south korea's capital, seoul, which one analyst describes as a sitting duck. >> where are our military defenses that might be able to shoot them down? how good are they? >> they are in alaska and california. many of those batteries are outdated. they don't have a good success rate and the testing they have been through and they are in the process of being updated. if that threat from the north koreans comes to fruition, that could be a real test for the missile defenses. >> thank you. as donald trump downplays russian cyberattack and calls for a good relationship with moscow, the kremlin makes plans for a meeting between trump and vladmir putin. is the president-elect ignores intelligence warnings? your insurance company won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about rep

and south korean officials are doing are taking north korea at its word.they say simply it's too dangerous not to. when you see what kim jong un has done over the last 12 months, never in the history of north korea have we seen such intense testing of the nuclear missile program. and we also saw the u.s. defense secretary on sunday reacting to this, showing the level of concern, saying that, if north korea fires a missile towards u.s. territory, they will shoot it down. and even if it fires something towards one of the allies of the united states, they will shoot it down. >> paula -- >> their nuclear weapons and ballistic missile defense programs are a serious threat to us. we try to stay ahead of that. if it were threatening to us, yes. or one of our friends or allies, yes, we would shoot it down. >> now, there was also a message for president-elect donald trump in this statement from the north korean foreign ministry official saying that, if you want a better relationship, we are ready to talk, saying, quote, anyone who wants to deal with the dprk would

to get thee ability north koreans really agitated and you could imagine the north koreans witting gauge militarily in their backyard and create accidents. charlie: what if the u.s. would take out any nuclear facilities they had? what would happen? ian: maybe nothing. charlie: wouldn't the rest of the world applaud? ian: let's see were the south koreans are at that point. we have a south korean president that's going to be forced out and quite likely replaced in quick elections with the opposition in south korea. that opposition would be aligned with the chinese, not the united states. they would probably toss out the idea of this missile defense system the americans worked out. south korea will suddenly be working more closely and japan is going to feel isolated. china is going to feel like trump is pushing an externally volatile way. number of countries applauding the united states when we do a good thing is reducing because the countries are not as convinced the united states is there for them over the long-term. but obama is right, when you look around the world, there are an awful l