so they've refused to tighten the screws on the north koreans and they could do a lot. they could close the border. they could deny them fuel oil. the chinese could really hurt the regime. the chinese have to be convinced that they now have to do whatever it takes to stop this regime and when you hear the administration say, if you won't deal with the north koreans, we will, that's the message that they're sending. now, the we will is kind of ugly because if you want to look at military options, you're looking at seoul, which is very vulnerable and very close to the border, to the doe militarized zone. the north koreans could do a lot of damage, a lot of civilian casualties, very quickly in seoul. so the options are not very good. it's complicated by the new president in south korea who is a man of the left, who has said, we ought to be negotiating with the north koreans. trust me, i've tried that, they walked away. and we are going to have to try to find a way to protect south korea, protect japan because again, no president can let the north koreans be able to reach t

north korea doesn't do anything out of the kindness of their hearts. >> i think the reason the north koreans- he looked like he was about to die. and they didn't want him to die in north korea. >> reporter: when we return, we track down the group that brought otto to north korea -- >> is this young pioneer tours? >> reporter: -- looking for answers. friend daryl here is supposed to be live streaming the wedding and he's not getting any service. i missed, like, the whole thing. what? and i just got an unlimited plan. it's the right plan, wrong network. you see, verizon has the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in america. it's built to work better in cities. tell you what, just use mine. thanks. no problem. all right, let's go live. say hi to everybody who wasn't invited! (vo) en it reallyreally matters, you need the best network and the best unlimited. just $45 per line for four lines. listerine® total care strengthens teeth, after brushing, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care to the total family. listerine® total care. one bot

north korea. americans are concerned about the new south korean government and its north korea poll sichlt the south koreans are concerned about the trump administration's foreign policy and north korea policy. and the former bush and obama administrations policy towards north korea. trump administration and north korea policy appears even to me, you know, very uncertain and unpredictability which makes south korean people really concerned about the possibility of trump's korea passing actually. so when president trump says north korea has shown great dissprekt for their neighbor china and china is trying hard and the south korean people don't understand what he really means. he also talked about, said that north korea is maybe more important than a trade deal with china. does he mean that? the south korean people do not understand what he really means. so this is why the south korean people are concerned about the possibility of u.s.-china, maybe u.s.-china agreement on the korea issue and that will represent south korea's security interests. i believe u.s. and north korea will play -- still believ

had committed serious crimes against the regime, after extensive negotiations with the u.s., the north koreansovember of 2014. today, bae is involved with a human rights group in south korea, determined to help get the remaining three american prisoners held in north korea released without the tragedy consequences of otto's case. >> what happened to otto should not happen again. i do believe that something can come out from it. and impact the people in north korea and also all the detain needs that are waiting to come home. >> reporter: when we come back, the dangerous diplomatic dance to win otto's release. the heartbreak of his homecoming, and the medical mystery of what happened to him in north korean custody. >> this is an international outrage. >> reporter: stay with us. le, roooooaaar!!! want our whole house to be filled with entertainment. easy boy! but we don't want annual contracts and hardware. we just want to stream live tv. and we want it for 10 dollars a month. (batman:raspy) wow. i'd like that in my house. it's a very big house. yeah, mine too. look at us. just two bros with sick

united states retaliate for the death of this 22-year-old university of virginia student who the north koreans had sentenced to hard labor for allegedly pulling down a propaganda banner in a hotel? >> the one reason to be careful about military retaliation is the fact that north korea now has missiles and nuclear weapons that could strike japan and korea and potentially threaten the united states. the other reason is there are other americans who are hostages and in prison who we also want to get out. >> warmbier's family said today, quote, the awful tortuous mistreatment our son received at the hands of north korea ensured no other out come was possible beyond the sad one we experienced today, end quote. when we call the north korean mission to the u.n. a few minutes ago to respond to that, they hung up on us. wolf? >> brian, this comes, what, just a couple days after an incident at john f. kennedy airport in new york between homeland security officials at a north korean delegation, right? >> that's right, wolf. this happened on friday. homeland security officials confiscated at least one pac

were you urged they take direct immediate talks with the north koreans, possibly send a high-ranking y to north korea? why do you think that's a good idea? >> for a variety of reasons. i think that people who favor negotiations do so partly because the alternatives are miserable. there are fundamentally three options in dealing with north korea, and there always have been since the end of the korean war. one is to contain the north koreans, and we've done that for decades and have been doing that for the eight years of the obama administration. i would say that's a containment or strategic patience type of policy. the problem with containment is it doesn't stop with north koreans from developing assets and capabilities and threat that we would rather not v. so a second option is to negotiate and to see whether we cannot reach an agreement with the north koreans where they agree to give up a capability which we believe they should not have and is threatening to friends and allouis, that is what we attempted to do in 1994 with the agreed framework. a third option is to use military forc

and the two of us also share the common goals of resolving north korean nuclear issue, a peace regimen the korean peninsula and building peace and security in northeast asia. if two could pull together and accomplish common goals i believe this will be the most fruitful achievements we can achieve. during our terms in office. and i also believe that this will be the greatest diplomatic achievement for president trump as the well. >> you believe that his greatest diplomatic achievement will be what happens here on the korean peninsula? >> yes, that is because president trump mentioned that north korea was on the top of his priority list. and also, because this is something that all of the former u.s. administrations could not achieve. and so i highly commend president trump's placing such trait importance on the north korean nuclear issue. i also believe thanks to president trump's approach and attitude there is possibility of resolving this issue. >> you have promised to sit knee to knee, head-to-head with the north korean dictator. can you go to pyongyang this year? can you meet with

the north korean dictatorship has no regard for the safety and security of its people or its neighbors and has no respect for uman life. and that's been proven over and ver again. millions of north korea's own citizens have suffered and starved to death. and the entire world just witnessed what the regime did to our wonderful otto warmbier. i thank president moon for expressing his condolences on the travesty of otto's death. our thoughts and prayers remain with his wonderful family. the year of strategic patience, with the north korean regime, has failed. any years and it's failed. and frankly, that patience is over. we're working closely with south korea and japan, as well as partners around the world on a range of diplomatic, security and economic measures to protect our allies and our own citizens from this menace known as north korea. the united states calls on other regional powers and all responsible nations to join us in implementing sanctions and demanding that the north korean regime choose a better path and do it quickly, and a different future for its long-suffering people.

we created this course of conduct, this expectation in the minds of north koreans. ed to stop that and although it will be unpleasant, we need to impose those on north korea and its enablers. until we do that, we know we are going to get. the north koreans are going to count on our currency, they're going to launched ballistic missiles, they'll use americans as hostages, they'll do all sorts of things and we've just been watching this. >> jon: if they were to respond militarily, launch an attack on south korea in response to us tightening the screws, do you save it a possibility? >> it's possible, but very unlikely. kim jong-un knows that. they are not going to do something like that unless they're at the point where they have no other choice. i know north koreans will help and a chinese. nonetheless, if we don't do anything, we know north koreans, maybe three years or sooner would put a nuclear warhead on top of a missile. they have been making very fast progress, not only are north korean technicians were on their own, they're getting a lot of help from beijing at

north korean relationship. the lack of that relationship is caused by north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons. they have shown zero interest to the negotiation. frankly they've shown zero interest in any serious discussion about a scuk about nuclear weapons. instead, they've wanted to talk to us as one nuclear power to another. the u.s. has worked dill jectly with china. they don't have much to show for it to be sure but i think that further, that is further exacerbated the u.s. north korea relationship. so even if they had returned otto warmbrer's, this isn't going to lead to improvement. there's a sense in the trump administration there's just nothing that can be done with north korea. i think you'll see them doubling down really on china notwithstanding the president's tweet. >> rose: david. >> i think they'll double down. i read the tweet differently than chris did. i read it that the president who had said to me in an interview last year he thought the chinese have complete control over the north koreans i

-north korean relationship. e lack of that relationship is caused by north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons. they've shown zero interest in negotiations. they've shown zero interest in any serious discussion about a discussion about nuclear weapons . instead, they've wanted to talk to us as when nuclear power to another, in the meantime the u.s. has worked very diligently with china, doesn't have much to show for it to be sure, but i think that is further exacerbated the u.s.-north korea relationship. even if they had returned otto warmbier in good condition, i don't think that would have had an act and certainly this is not going to lead to any improvement, quite to the contrary, there's a sense in the trump administration that there is nothing that can be done with north korea. i think you will see them doubling down on china, notwithstanding with the president's tweet. charlie: david? they will double down. i read the tweet a little bit differently than kristin. i read it that the president who had said to m

hoping xi would lean on the north korean dictator. bet. >> china has paid lip service to pressuring north korea. but at the end of the day, china is not willing to put enough pressure on north korea to change north korea's behavior. >> so now tensions between washington and pyongyang are left bowling. kim's regime claims three delegates it sent to a u.n. conference in new york were quote mugged at new york's jfk airport by u.s. homeland security officers. the north koreans accuse of u.s. officers of taking a diplomatic package away from the delegates. dhs officials tell cnn there was a confrontation, but the package in question didn't have diplomatic protection. and they say the aggression was started by the north koreans. the los angeles times reports those north korean delegates took an unauthorized side trip while they were in america. >> they went to arizona on some sort of shopping expedition. i was told it was technology related. i don't know precisely what technology. and i still don't know what was in the packages. but they di

a serious offense and it would be serious not just of a foreigner doing it but especially of a north korean you know we live in a democracy free and could have been arrested should tell the very same thing yeah i would have gotten probably more than fifty years you know we look at the fifteen years hard labor as an excessive sentence where the north koreans would would not have you know because we live in a democracy our government is inherently legitimate and we are not as concerned about symbolism but in our own state like north korea where the government isn't legitimate you know propaganda boasts posters symbolism so it is also is this for domestic consumption for north koreans for the government to project this propaganda where they say something the united states as well well i think was really for internal stability because if somebody could for instance mock alone or tear down a poster or criticize the kim family that could lead to a chain of events where people then decide to go into the streets and that's why the movie the interview in two thousand and fourteen the one talked abou

to them that's a good idea i think it's a good idea because we don't want to give the north koreans any more bargaining chips but also the use all the money is for me tourism for their ballistic missile and nuclear weapons program because money is fungible so every time you see a north korean missile towards a cigar that is tourist dollars at work and i'll be calling you on july seventeenth about what we did with that dead let me appreciate it thank you so much for joining us thank you very thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking and think you are to larry king for letting me sit in this chair it's an honor remember we love hearing from you join the conversation on larry's facebook page and as always you can share your thoughts on twitter by tweeting at kings things and using the politicking hash tag i also got you to join me on twitter at real amy holmes that's all for this edition of politicking. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. you're out caught up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry i coul

the north koreans, when did we find out otto was going to north korea? the north korea lure americans to travel to north korea via tour groups run out of china, who advertise slick ads on the internet proclaiming no american ever gets detained off of our tours, and this is a safe place to go. so otto is a young thrill-seeking, great kid who was going to be in that part of the world for a college experience, and said hey, i've heard some friends who have done this, i would like to do this. so we agreed to let him do that. they lure americans and then they take them hostage, and then they do things to them, and that's what happened to my son. he was taken hostage at the airport, as he was trying to leave the country, and then he was put through the trial which we've all seen. he performed amazingly well, and here we are today. >> yes, sir? >> daniel. you may not want to comment on this but do you see wider benefits in curbing the excesses of this regime in keeping what you see is as a tough approach to north korea? >> i don't see a tough approach to north

when you read in the newspapers that the north korean tests they're not getting very good yield, that means it's exploding prematurely, but they're betting-- getting better at it and soon they'll get it to explode when they want to and then affix it to a delivery vehicle. what's worrying people is that their delivery vehicles are getting longer in range and i don't know whether president trump is being told it's one year, or three years, or five years, my guess is someplace three to five years, he's going to be able to marry that weapon to an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach the united states. now, no president of the united states is going to let a reckless, unhinged north korean leader be able to reach the united states with auc

the north koreans. and so, we followed that logic. and then at this -- there came a time where we're tired, that doesn't seem to have any impact, so we went public with an interview on "the tucker carlson show" and then did a couple written pieces, and then very quickly, we have otto home. [ inaudible question ] >> oh, never, never, absolutely not. no. no. >> yes, ma'am. >> fox news. did you still believe that otto -- [ inaudible ] can you talk about the timeline? >> well, personally, north korea is a pariah regime. they're brutal and they're terroristic. you can't believe anything -- well, it's your choice. we don't believe anything they say. we see the results of their actions with otto, so it's all speculation. >> yes, sir. >> from "voice of america." if you could speak directly to the north korean regime or north korean people, what would you say to them? >> i would say i'm so proud of -- what i would say to the north korean regime, i would say i'm so proud of otto, my son, who has been in a pariah

informsed heavily in a personal relationship with the chinese president hoping xi would lean on the north koreanr. some analysts belief it was a losing bet. >> china has paid lip service, but at the end of the day, china is not willing to put enough pressure on north korea to change their behavior. >> tonight, tensions are left boiling. kim's regime claims three delegates it sent to a un conference in new york were mugged at new york's airport by homeland security officers. they accuse the officers of taking a diplomatic package away. there was a confrontation, but the package in question didn't have diplomatic protection, and they say the aggression was started by the north koreans. the los angeles times reports they took an unauthorized side trip while they were in america. >> they went to arizona on some sort of shopping expedition. i was told it was technology related. i don't know precisely what technology, and i still don't know what was in the packages. but they did bring something back. >> north korean officials declined to comment to cnn about the incident. in a statement, dhs says its

president offering his deepest condolences in a statement and condemning the brutality of the north korean regime. secretary of state rex tillerson says that the united states hold north korea accountable for warmbier's unjust imprisonment. others taking a tougher stone with mccain stating plainly that warmbier was murdered by the kim jong-un regime. this coming as the president continue to confront the russia investigation back home. to top democrats in the house demanding documents related to general michael flynn's foreign work in a letter to flynn's lawyers alleging that president trump's fired national security adviser failed to disclose a 2015 middle east trip on a security clearance forms, a trip reportedly related to a major nuclear energy deal involving russia. democrats also alleging he left key information about a 2015 saudi arabia trip off those forms. this after a key member of the senate judiciary committee made this stunning statement about flynn on monday. >> all of the signals are suggesting that he's already cooperating with the fbi and may have been for some time. >> rep

disinclined to remove the north korean problem. other issue is for china as they rested up sections on north korea, the increase the floods of refugees across the border into china which is a problem for china. not only does it serve their interests to enable kim jong un, it also causes great problems for them if they lean too heavily. host: of the four strategic options that you laid out, one of them, decapitation, would involve seeking out john own. .- seeking out kim jong un if that were to happen, who would fill that leadership? guest: that is a great question, kimberly. that is why decapitation is itself a bad option, because we would be rolling the dice. we don't know who would replace him. we may well end up with someone worse and also, i think given the reverence accorded kim in that country, a direct attack on him weibel trigger -- may will trigger the massive response that it would be designed to avoid. host: livingston is calling from cambridge, massachusetts. -- america is the only country that would use nuclear weapons

so what the trump administration will do is make sure, this is not a humanitarian gesture, the north koreanrld and has a terrible record on this. the big problem with north korea, human rights problems, the nuclear missile program and this is not going to help us move in the direction of securing diplomatic channels. >> we dealt with this nation and this dictator as if they are rational people. kim jung un is a psychopath. why do we bargain with them and do you think the new administration will deal with them the way a lot of americans think they should? >> reporter: interesting the trump administration secured his release. what that tells us is the north koreans don't do anything out of the kindness of their hearts, they do it because it is in their own interests so i think the north koreans are taking the trump administration more seriously, negotiations, diplomacy has not worked with the regime, they will not get rid of their nuclear program so we are left with coercion and force as options if we cannot get the chinese to really turn the screws on the north koreans. without china's trade

the most troubling thing is thee north koreans. it's the north koreans feel strong enough but they don't even want to talk to the chinese because that speaks to seans of isolation. >> goldberg: we conclude with the comedian actor aziz ansari. he spoke to charlie last week about his popular series "master of none" which premiered on netflix last mon >> as you get, even in our '30s, we feel like how many more times will i feel that strong connection with someone? even with these dating apps and all this stuff, you feel, like, how many times am i going to feel that maverick? >> rose: politics and aziz ansari when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: goo >> goldberg: good evening, charlie is traveling. i'm jeff goldberg with the drank. we begin with politics. president trump's numbers drift down

the north koreans, when did we find out otto was north korea?hey lure americans to -- they proclaim no america gets detained off our tours and this is a safe place to go. so otto is a young, thrill seeking, great kid who was going to be in that part of the world for a college experience and said hey, i've heard some friends who had done this and i would like to do this. we agreed to let him do that. they lure americans and then take them hostage and then they do things to them. and that's what happened to my son. he was taken hostage at the airport as he was trying to leave the country. and then he was put through the trial which we've all seen. he performed amazingly well and here we are today. >> [inaudible question] >> i don't see a tough approach to north korea. they are still able to take americans hostage and abuse them. they are still able to be terrorists in the world. i don't know that -- listen, north korea -- it extended to the u.s.s. pueblo and now to my son, otto. it's not -- i'm not in government and that's not my call. >> [inaudib

north korea. even today, there are many korean nationals and american citizens detained in moushg. i also urge north korea to return these people to their families. >> senator john mccain has said that otto warmbier was murdered by the kim jong-un regime. do you believe the north koreans should be held responsible for his death? >> translator: yes. this had happened while mr. warmbier was in the detention of north korean authorities. we cannot know for sure that north korea killed mr. warmbier, but i believe it is quite clear that they have a heavy responsibility in the process that led to mr. warmbier's death. >> how does this affect your efforts to restart the dialogue with north korea? >> i believe we must now have the perception that north korea is an irrational regime. working with such a country, we must achieve the goal of the complete dismantlement of north korea's nuclear program. >> how do you sit knee to knee as you promised with an irrational leader and negotiate? >> i believe that dialogue is necessary. we were unable to resolve the north korean nuclear issue through on

we don't have a north korean policy. thinking they were going to solve it for us. that was always a pipe dream. what is our policy? it is incoherent right now. the south koreans don't know, the chinese don't know, the japanese don't know. the administration is running on fumes and partially it's because they haven't brought the people in who could do the job. haven't appointed people in the state department who know what they're doing who can do this. look, there's one person on the show right now who would be an excellent assistant secretary of state to help solve problem. it ain't me. >> well, on that note of recommendation, which we hope president trump is listening to, we have to end it now. victor, joe, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you fareed. >>> next on gps, many things to fear in today's world. one of the scariest is small, smaller than the eye can see. what you need to know about germs and why it's scary when we get back. as kpmg advises service providers, what's the concern? >> the pace of -- the rapid dis

this is your thing with the north koreans. the japanese, south koreans are on our side. that would not be a bad idea if china says to north korea, you want to play with the united states? you can. we are not going to defend you. >> eboni: if not now, i hear what you are saying, mark. >> mark: it is the white house's position. that's how they think. >> eboni: sometimes i think one is enough, honestly, frankly. this instance under these circumstances, if this isn't enough to call to action a unanimous response, i don't know what it would take. >> jeanne: the ballistic missile issue is a reason to consider it. i don't support it, i have to agree with kat. i can't support it. i imagine the president would. the really unfortunate loss of this child i don't think it's enough to start a military effort. >> eric: you wait until a missile is on its way to los angeles? hope the missile interceptor works. sacrifice los angeles and say we waited. we shouldn't have waited. or do you go ahead and say -- if you do this, a preemptive strike to wipe out their nuclear program or at least p

so they've refused to tighten the screws on the north koreans and they could do a lot. they could close the border. they could deny them fuel oil. the chinese could really hurt the regime. the chinese have to be convinced that they now have to do whatever it takes to stop this regime and when you hear the administration say, if you won't deal with the north koreans, we will, that's the message that they're sending. now, the we will is kind of ugly because if you want to look at military options, you're looking at seoul, which is very vulnerable and very close to the border, to the doe militarized zone. the north koreans could do a lot of damage, a lot of civilian casualties, very quickly in seoul. so the options are not very good. it's complicated by the new president in south korea who is a man of the left, who has said, we ought to be negotiating with the north koreans. trust me, i've tried that, they walked away. and we are going to have to try to find a way to protect south korea, protect japan because again, no president can let the north koreans be able to reach t

what do the north koreans want? they want security assurances from the united states. s. and south korean joint military exercises on their border. the question is, is the u.s. willing to do that. >> victor, i'm going to assume you're going to say we tried that in 2005, they were made a kind of offer, and during the clinton years, and it didn't work. >> yeah. the north koreans have been given on numerous occasions security assurances, even negative security assurance in the six-party talks, which the united states said on paper we will not attack north korea with nuclear or conventional weapons. you know, i'm all in favor of a freeze as well. i do believe that the north koreans, the chinese and the south koreans are moving towards a position where the united states needs to stop our military exercises with the south koreans in return for a freeze. i don't think that's a particularly good deal. those exercises are purely defensive and readiness, if there's ever a need for readiness anywhere in the world it is going to be on the korean peninsula given all of the north kor

we met 20 times with the north koreans in new york, the united nations representatives. i sent a delegation late last year to north korea to try to get otto out in exchange for some humanitarian assistance. i mean, this is a personal tragedy. this is a young, good kid. he made a mistake. he shouldn't have taken that banner down to, but to get 15 years. and then failure to disclose by the north koreans that he was in a coma. was he tortured? was he abused? we don't know. and north korea should come clean. >> governor, otto's father was very critical of the obama administration's handling of his son's detention. here he was. >> when otto was first taken, we were advised by the past administration to take a low profile. while they worked to obtain his release. we did so without result. earlier this year, cindy and i decided the time for strategic patience was over. and we made a few media appearances and traveled to washington to meet with ambassador joe yun at the state department. it is my understanding that ambassador yun and his team at the direction of the president agg

he has expressed interest in talking to the north koreans -- south korea -- under what conditions remains somewhat of an open question. then of course the north korea we've seen a number of ballistic missile test already in 2017 including some new systems. all of this is leading up to the summit that trump will hold in washington, d.c., later this month. so don't make sense of all of these developments are and where fortunate with us today michael elleman and suzanne dimaggio. we will start today michael elleman, a senior fellow for missile defense at the institute for international and strategic studies. he has spent some time at booz allen hamilton the expense of the market and cooperative threat reduction programs and of be remiss if i didn't add that else's written several excellent pieces for arms control today which i would encourage you to take a look at. and if obama is available in your program. then we'll move on to suzanne dimaggio fixes and as a director and senior fellow at the new america foundation, has years of expense working on track to diplomatic initiatives and a range

you want to start a dialog without any concessions by the north koreans. aren't you giving in to them? >> translator: i have never mentioned a dialog with no preconditions whatsoever. i believe that first we must vie for a freeze of north korea's nuclear programs and then as a second phase, try to achieve the complete dismantlement of north korea's nuclear program and i believe there are voices supporting such a step by step approach even within the united states. >> reporter: and part of that step by step approach is president moon believes he's going to get the green light from president trump to have these bilateral talks with north korea to begin this dialog. part of that as well is whether president moon thinks he can go to pyongyang and meet directly with kim jong unto try and denuclearize north korea or at least begin this freeze. >> kim jong unhas said that his program is nonne >> reporter: the north korean leader has this blind faith that that's what's keeping his regime alive and they're going to make him believe through talks that they can be a s

if we were to -- if you're able to peacefully resolve the north korean nuclear issue, then this would also lead the way to establishing a peace regime on he korean peninsula. and the peace regime on the korean peninsula would also lead to economic cooperation between south and north korea and the establishment of an economic community that would comprise of a total population of 80 million koreans. and i believe that the korean economy would be available to further expand towards china, iberia, russia and europe. i believe that this will lead to new growth in korea's economy and also new economic opportunities for both korea and the united states. john: ok. osh, you get the next one. questioner: thank you very much. , thank you very much. mr. president, the trump administration has publicly rejected any deal that would involve reducing the scale or pace of u.s.-south korean military exercises in exchange for north korea freezing its nuclear or missile testing. but one of your senior advisors recently in washington said that if north korea proposes such a deal, the south korean governm

everyone agrees it's only a matter of time before north north koreans can flight test and that's why president obama warned president trump duringon the transition that north korea was the most urgent crisis he might face. even if north korea struggles mf minaturize, they have vast stores of chemical weapons whico can be delivered by missile technology.in one also must worry about reliability of nuclear command and control systems. they are developing, forworry ab instance, road mobile and submarine missiles and mustan wonder whether those commanders will be under the full control of north korea's national leadership and practice. second, iran. since the joint comprehensive plan of action was signed, iran tested ballistic missile on 14 different occasions. they were trying to send a signal to both the united states and israel. moreover reports that iran is t supporting missile defense in yemen and finally the nuclear deal, i would hope to have reliable systems for any nuclear weapon's program. third, country that sometimes escapes notice is pakistan. one cannot discount the possibilit

he has expressed an interest in talking to the north koreans but again, under what conditions still remains somewhat an open-ended question and of course in north korea we've seen a number of ballistic missile tests already in 2017 including some new systems. and all of this is leading up to the summit that trump and moon j in will hold in washington dc later this month so to help make sense of all these developments, i am fortunate to have with us today michael ellman and suzanne dimaggio. going to start today with mike ellerman, mike is a senior fellow for missile-defense and astute for international studies area he has spent some time at allen hamilton and spent time working on cooperative threatreduction programs and i would be remiss if i didn't add he has written several excellent pieces for arms control today. i would encourage you to look at. and his full bio is available in your program . then we move on to suzanne dimaggio, suzanne is a senior fellow at the new america vision, he has years of experience working on diplomatic initiatives on a range of issues including non-percolati

the visitors could not see on the other side of those mountains are 10,000 artillery pieces the north koreanuld reach the 28 million people in and around the south korean capital. u.s. war planners estimate 500,000 people could be killed in a second korean war. is there any other metropolitan area on earth this vulnerable? >> james slife: certainly nothing that approaches seoul in terms of the size, the density of the population. there's nothing like it. >> whitaker: u.s. air force general james slife flew with us over the city. it's just 30 miles from the d.m.z. we landed at osan air base where korean airmen and their american colleagues monitor all activity north of the d.m.z. for security, they shut off the giant video displays right before we came in. this facility is among the first to detect north korean missile launches. you're, like, on a war footing all the time. >> slife: that's right. this is truly one of those places where the best way to prevent a war is being ready for a war. >> whitaker: the north's latest missile tests used a new type of solid fuel engine and were fired from

it was angering the north koreans and angering the chinese. so this would be a big blow to certainly the united states, to president trump. certainly to the u.s. efforts to sort of check mark what the north koreans are doing. this was an attempt on our part to prepare for the worst and to put south korea in a place to deal with any missile attack or at least set up an anti missile attack. that was deemed 0 to be a provocative act. we'll get more on this hopefully from jennifer griffin, an update on that. again, huge implications for something half a world away that had nothing to do with james comey. stick around. needles. essential for him, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, l

our top stories: the american student otto warmbier has died, days after returning home from a north korean prison ina coma. president trump has condemned pyongyang as "a brutal regime". a vigil is held near the mosque in north london where a van was driven into muslim worshippers. a man has been arrested, accused of terror offences. 12 months after the brexit referendum — official talks have got under way between the united kingdom and the european union. and i'm sally bundock. business after brexit — the uk finance minister delivers his so called mansion house speech to business leaders in the city of london — so what will he promise and can he deliver? the perfect commute. is the dream finally reality? a flying car you can actually buy. our man at the paris airshow checks it out.. president donald trump has denounced north korea as "a brutal regime" after the death of a us student released by the reclusive country last week. otto warmbier spent nearly 18 months in detention in north korea. the 22—year—old was medically evacuated to the united states, suffering from severe brain damage. h

to free otto. >> the north koreans stiffed me.hey never said yes. they never said no. otto was in a coma, and they didn't want anybody to know. >> reporter: the former governor has a stern warning to the estimated 1,000 americans traveling to north korea every year. >> don't go to north korea if you're an american tourist. you don't need to go there. go somewhere else. it's too dangerous. and you may end up like otto warmbier. unjustly killed. this is a human being detained, 21 years old, with a great family, a grieving family. north korea should not get away with this. >> reporter: and as america mourns otto's death -- >> i wish there was a way to know that you're in the good old days before you've actually left them. >> reporter: back at his high school his friends remember his bright spirit. >> he said we'll always have each other talking about our class. and i think now more than ever that's really showing to be true. and otto would want that. >> the memories we've created to be played over and over again. thank you. [ applaus

several are even calling it murder. >> reporter: just days after his release from north korean detainment, 22-year-old college student otto warmbier has died. his family saying he passed away surrounded by his family. he was held captive in north korea for more than a year, sentenced to 15 years hard labor for allegedly stealing a poster during a tourist stop there. >> i made the worst mistake of my life. >> reporter: just last week he returned home to ohio, carried off a medevac plane awake but doctors saying he had extensive brain damage. his family saying he looked very uncomfortable. almost anguished. within a day, the count nance of his face changed. he was at peace, he was home, and we believe he could sense that. just days before he was released, the north koreans say warmbier contracted botulism and fell into a coma after taking a sleeping pill. his family never believed that explanation. >> there is no excuse for any civilized nation to have kept his condition secret and denied him top-notch medical care for so long. >> reporter: at the white house monday, president trump condemn