fighters have been killed in air strikes in north-east syria, the syrian observatory for human rights says five civilians died, and are argument thatting oil facilities. the u.s. central command said he hit a number of targets. stefanie dekker is on the turkish syrian border and joins me. the air strikes targetting fighters and major sources of revenue for i.s.i.l. >> absolutely. this is it 12 air strikes and we can confirm we are targetting oil refineries, this is, as we say, targetting their financing system. it's estimated na i.s.i.l. raises $2 million a day from oil, smuggled out of the country. the other thing to clamp down on is how they are getting the oil out. and fuel that fuels activities within syria, this is something they'll be key to look at. and there were air strikes believed to be coalition air strikes, but not confirmed on islamic state courts, bases in eastern syria. where we are, this is cobbana, you can see it behind me. it's a close point to where we are in turkey. no reports of air strikes around here in the last 24 hours. the kurds here, of course, 150,000 havi

turkey opened its boarder no north-east syria. i.s.i.l. fighters seized dozens, and tensions are high as security forces clashed with kurd protesting in solidarity with the refugees. >> australia is expected to resettle nearly 5,000 refugees from iraq and syria. the success in stopping asylum seekers boats allows it to welcome more refugees. andrew thomas sent this report. >> abdul never went to the gym when he lived in syria. in his new home in australia, working out is how he spends is big part of his day. >> translation: i'm in australia on my ob and loneliment the only place i can use my energy is the gym. >> before the arab spring, he ran a shop. he joined the resistance, and helped to get video evidence out of syria. in 2011 that got him arrested. he was held and tortured for 20 days before bribing guards to release him. within 48 hours he left syria to lebanon, there he applied to the unhcr. leading to a new life in australia. he is grateful, but lonely, waiting for an english course to begin, hoping that when he's better able to co

cruise missiles were a part of the coordinated attacks which took place in three waves in the north and east of syria two strikes were aimed explicitly at headquarters, other major assets controlled by isis, a third strike aimed at a separate terrorist group president obama said was planning attacks on the west. >> last night we also took strikes by seasoned al qaeda operatives known as the khorasan group. it must be clear to anyone plotting against america, we will not tolerate safehavens for terrorists who harm or people. >> president obama gave the order to strike on thursday after his visit to centcom. lead counterterrorism adviser. lisa, let's start with the khorasan group. this is something the american people had not heard about until now. why were they added to our list of strikes inside syria. >> good to be with you. what you heard the president say this is morning, he took decisive action against this group of al qaeda veterans, seasoned operatives known as the khorasan group who had -- using the safehaven in syria has provided to plot attacks -- against the homeland. we've been looking at

have been around raqqa, which is the actual headquarters of isis and they predominate in the north and east of syria. this shows a few other strikes, but there have been lots and lots of them all around the northeastern part of syria. if you take a look at how we did it, you'll be able to see that we've got the uss philippine sea here, the uss articley burk, both of these firing tomahawk missiles. and here is the george h.w. bush which launches f 18s. we have air bases in the region, one big one in italy from which we can launch ground-based aircraft. more importantly, take a look at this. we have an air base in turkey, very close to the target area. the turks won't let us use it. when we started going to iraq, they wouldn't let us come through turkey into iraq -- >> so the turks will not let us use that air base? >> they will not. which is one of the reasons why we have to rely on the sea-borne cruise missiles. >> what's the range on those tomahawks? it seems pretty far. >> they can go more than a thousand miles, and they have about a thousand pounds of explosive in them. they're terminally guided.

but you have the same thing in north africa and syria, through the the middle east. >> another view is that the so-called islamic state group is the iraqi government's fault. that it arose only recently as a result of that government's failure t to be more inclusive. eliminating the sunni population within the country. they have cracked down on hundreds of thousands of iraqis as part of a government protest. and hundreds of protesters were killed then. the prime minister, maliki, said that terrorists were among the demonstrators. and the islamic state group emerged from those same towns and cities. >> the root cause in iraq is one that has to be addressed, and that really is a challenge. with the previous iraqi government under prime minister maliki, the kurds felt disenfranchised. and they were. and now with the new prime minister, he said that they will be included. it's going to be a challenge to get the sunni tribes in western iraq to first trust the new central government. >> but it's not limited to iraq and now extends west to syria. for now, it appears that the international pow

north carolina to join the vicious fight in syria? >> this guy is from small town, salisbury, north carolina, he's not from the middle east. he's not from a messed up family situation. he's a hometown guy. >> reporter: brian beaver has known morgan for 15 years. do you think he was dangerous toward the end? >> i can see him being dangerous. i can. >> reporter: morgan had been in trouble with the law and served time on gun charges. colleagues and law enforcement officials describe an angry man struggling to fit in and finding a cause in radical islam. >> this is it. this is the path. this is the way you're going to go. >> reporter: morgan says the change came two years ago. spending hours on the internet following the wars in the middle east, he got sucked in and started tweeting radical messages under an arabic pseudonym. >> a push came from being mistreated by people around me who didn't share the views i had. >> reporter: he decided to join isis last june and began to make his way from beirut to syria. but he was stopped on the way by authorities in turkey and sent back. soon after our interview, running low on money, mo

hitting in this campaign range from the area around baghdad to fallujah across north central iraq to mosul and in syria from the east and north with borders are iraq and turkey, to aleppo and, of course, raqqa. in other words, when we say we're going after them, we mean it. it's important to note that while we continue to hit them where they are, it doesn't mean that we can or even should hit them at every moment. we must choose, we must discriminate between targets that matter more to us in space and time than others and between those that run higher risks of collateral damage or civilian casualties. that's a major difference between us and them. we care about preserving life. we're willing to be careful and patient and precise, even if that means waiting for them to make a mistake or make themselves more vulnerable. we've been honest about the fact that military act as loan will not win this effort but that shouldn't be taken as an admission of ineffectiveness. one of the ways we know we're having an effect is precisely because the terrorists have had to change their tactics and communications and command and cont

north-east. despite the u.s. giving more financial aid to syria, and has the largest resettlement programme, 121 syrians have been offered a new home, something the critics say is inadequate. on the scale of syria's humanitarian crisis is putting a dampener on the region. the number of internally displaced stands at 6 million. security in syria is a serious issue. immigration lawyers say that's why many of its clients need help now. >> most of the plants here have families in syria. it's a life or death situation for them. the most this application is deployed. they may loz their family. the u.s. state department is expecting to see more occasions and are committed to helping the people of syria, now all the family can do is wait. their fate is unclear. >>> the u.n. secretary-general says he's personally raising the issue of three detained journalists with the president of egypt. peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy and baher mohamed have now spent 247 days in an egyptian prison. all three received long sentences of a trial many observers saw as politically motivated. their convictions are being appealed, and al jaz

you have the same thing in north africa, syria, and throughout the middle east. >> reporter: another view is that the so-called islamic state group is that it arose as a result of the iraq's government failure to be more inclusive, alienating the sunni of the country. hundreds of protesters were killed, prime minister nouri al-maliki maintained what he called terrorists were among the demonstrators. but within months the islamic state emerged in those very same towns and cities. >> the root problem in iraq is the issue that has to be addressed. with the previous iraqi government under prime minister al maliki the sunnies and the kurds felt disenfranchised, and fact they were. prime minister al abadi now says with the new government it will be inclusive. this will be a challenge to get the sunni tribes in iraq first to trust the new central government. >> reporter: but the i.s. reach is not limited to iraq and now extends into syria. for now it appears the international powers have failed to come up with a plan to combat the group's presence in syria. many fear dealing with the i.s. g

seen some of the middle east countries participate, maybe not in a combat role like the brits and the u.s. had but look what they're doing in syria. look at what they're doing in north africa. i mean, you got middle east countries targeting in libya as well. starting to see this thing spread but i think one of the things we're voting for is that the arab countries will continue to use military power for own agenda so wheel they support the united states they'll probably reach out and continue to use air power against other middle east political enemies and this thing may spread out of control. >> host: that's an interesting thought. the "washington post" this morning has a piece. the persian gulf nations put aside differences. they don't always agree on who the enemy is but yet they found an enemy, these five countries at least that participated in monday air strikes so the "washington post" going into details about the differences up until monday that qatar has with saudi arabia and the unite arab emirates as well. from the front page. "washington post" this morning. more reaction from capitol hill. senator barbara boxer tweets this. i support the president taking

. >> pelley: a fight that nearly surrounds jordan with syria to its north and iraq to the east. refugees dragged themselves into jordan. the king has welcomed 1.4 million syrian refugees so far. what are the risks of isis if it carries on the way it has? >> isis, the reaction to isis has got to be quick. we have not been quick. i'm very, very pleased that president obama has been thinking this through, i think, in a very sensible manner. >> pelley: but in your estimation, just in the nick of time? >> in the nick of time, but the problem is with isis is their cross border, it's in syria and iraq. so it's a bit difficult for western countries and how do you deal with solving the iraq part of the puzzle, but then going whto eastern syria, which has some legal ramifications. i think that's taken an bit of time. >> pelley: in an interview just last year, you said there shouldn't be foreign military intervention in syria. >> i don't think anybody's talking about expecting foreign boots on the ground. in iraq, the iraqis can do it with assistance from the coalition. and in syria, it's

syria tonight. one country is absent. turkey is a nato member, the largest military in the middle east, and large majority of its people are muslim. why isn't the country just north of syria helping us? even when isis has taken over one of turkey's air bases? now and particularly in your region, no? >> the only thing we believe they have to do is nato react says an attack, an armed attack is met by an armed attack against all nobody had an armed attack against turkey at this point. everybody said the reason they haven't and have been reluctant is because 40 turkish hostages were sitting in mosul, including a counselor again lal ral, and held over the summer. he said we have humanitarian assistance but our hostages just have been released he said turkey will not be afraid to fighterorists and we're talking to the united states i've got to assume they're thinking about it i want to see that happen. >> it would be all countries around isis engaged in an attack against isis it would be a legitimate coalition, perhaps led by the united states. everybody in the neighborhood is against isis. why is this significant? they travel around europe, and go to turkey. >> it's a

north-east of the united states. despite the fact that the u.s. has given more financial aid to syria and has the largest resettlement programme, 121 serious have been offered a home, something that critics say is woefully inadequate. the scale of the humanitarian crisis is putting pressure on the camps. immigration lawyers say many of his clients need help now. >> most of the applicants have part of their family in other areas. it's a life or death situation. the most this application is delayed, they may lose their family. the u.s. state department spects to receive more cases in the following months and are committed to helping the people of syria. for now, all the family can do is wait. like many, their fates are unclear. >>> u.n. secretary-general says he's personally raised the issue of three detained al jazeera journalists. peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy and baher mohamed have spent 247 address in an egyptian prison. all three received long sentences. after a trial many see as politically motivated, convictions are being appealed. ban ki-moon emphasised the importance of fre

syria tonight. one country is absent. turkey is a nato member, the largest military in the middle east, and large majority of its people are muslim. why isn't the country just north turkey's air bases? now and particularly in your region, no? >> the only thing we believe they have to do is nato react says an attack, an armed attack is met by an armed attack against all nobody had an armed attack against turkey at this point. everybody said the reason they haven't and have been reluctant is because 40 turkish hostages were sitting in mosul, including a counselor again lal ral, and held over the summer. he said we have humanitarian assistance but our hostages just have been released he said turkey will not be afraid to fighterorists and we're talking to the united states i've got to assume they're thinking about it i want to see that happen. >> it would be all countries around isis engaged in an attack against isis it would be a legitimate coalition, perhaps led by the united states. everybody in the neighborhood is against isis. why is this significant? they travel around europe, and go to turkey. >> it's a red carpet. >> it's a total red carpet. so they go in, th

ally nearly surrounded by war, with the israeli palestinian conflict to its west, syria to its north, and iraq to the eastwe spoke to king abdullah in new york before this month's u.n. general assembly meeting. for hundreds of years his family ruled the holiest shrines in islam. and the king was nearly at a loss for words today when we asked him about the head of isis who claims to lead all muslims. >> abdullah ii: i hate to use the word heretics-- whatever the words of those types are-- but to even call himself a muslim is to me, just words that i don't want to use on this program. >> pelley: you just used the world heretic. is he an islamic heretic? >> abdullah ii: i think to use the word islam and him in the same sentence is not acceptable. that he even speaks in the name of islam for me is so horrendous and so shocking. >> pelley: the kingdom of jordan has borne the burden of the syrian civil war even though it has no oil wealth and precious little water. we went to the border where, for

. >> pelley: a fight that nearly surrounds jordan with syria to its north and iraq to the east.efugees dragged themselves into jordan. the king has welcomed 1.4 million syrian refugees so far. what are the risks of isis if it carries on the way it has? >> isis, the reaction to isis has got to be quick. we have not been quick. i'm very, very pleased that president obama has been thinking this through i think in a very sensible manner. >> pelley: but in your estimation, just in the nick of time? >> in the nick of time, but the problem is with isis is their cross border, it's in syria and iraq. so it's a bit difficult for western countries and how do you deal with solving the iraq part of the puzzle, but then going into eastern syria, which has some legal ramifications. i think that's take an bit of time. >> pelley: in an interview just last year, you said there shouldn't be foreign military intervention in syria. >> i don't think anybody's talking about expecting foreign boots on the ground. in iraq, the iraqis can do it with assistance from the coalition. and in syria, it's the s

east. there's syria to the north. king abdullah was on "60 minutes" last night. 20% of their population are refugees out of syria. this is great for them. all right? because maybe one day these refugees will be able to go home. jordan not an oil-based company. king abdullah, i saw him here today in new york. they're -- they're struggling. they're at their wits' end. so good reports from amman right now. >> the regions -- it's the saudis, the eliminate rats, the jordanians. all playing a role in this. who has the most at stake here outside the coalition? >> i think saudi arabia. i think from a population base saudi arabia. it's going to be a tough sell. primarily because a lot of the wahhabiist, salafist ideology comes from that particular country. >> the sunnis. >> and that's going to be a hard sell for the population base. >> and they are. saudi arabia is the caliphate. they are -- >> that's where mecca is. >> that's the central aspect of the muslim faith right there in saudi arabia. >> and the sell in saudi arabia m

syria. let's speak to zeina khodr, live in beirut. we are hearing of syrian army advances. tell us about that. >> yes, north-east of damascus, in a suburb known as adra. the syrian government managing to push rebels out of the strategic town. this is an industrial town. it's at the doorsteps of the capital, 30km from the city center, and is close to the damascus homs highway. it is strategic territory for the syrian government. and they have been picking their battles, they picked the battles, trying to maintain control of the capital. homs and the coastal area. they are pushing forward, broadcasting images of government troops in joe bar. they are pushing forward, rebels losing ground at a time na the united states coalition started a campaign against i.s.i.l. you are hearing more and more from rebel commanders saying why are you targetting i.s.i.l., why are you not helping us, targetting the syrian government who have been killing civilians over the past three years. anger is growing inside syria. a lot of suspicions over the intentions of the u.s. administration. we have to make clear that the u.s. denied tha

at the same time, there's evidence that north korea has been working closely with the countries in the middle east, like syria or iran. and in this connection, which i think is a dangerous liaison between north korea and the middle eastern countries get developed, then the crisis could become beyond control. could escalate beyond control. so, we have to make some genuine active efforts now amongst three countries, korea, u.s. and japan, to give choice to north korea, whether they would want to pursue this course of danger, or make different choice. we should maintain sanctions, solid sanctions, on north korea as a means of pressure. but at the same time, we shouldn't recoil from the idea of talks with the north. because we want to find out exactly what they think about the current situation and what can be done. i always think that dialogue is better than confrontation and we have to induce this progress, meaningful progress in north korean, we have to make a breakthrough otherwise things will become more dangerous. finally, on antipathy. i mention at the beginning that the three countries should try to expan

syria. arab nations then joined in the strikes on isis militants in the north and the east of the country. while all this was done with the tacit approval from the syrian government, reaction on the street is mixed. >> definitely negative. when we see american war planes flying in the air over syria, it is impossible to be optimisting about this thing. >> terrorist has a bad impact on the whole world. this is international terrorism. >> more now for you on the khorasan group. you may not have heard it before. the u.s. says it's been working on some alarming plans for a tax against the west. here's the details. >> what makes it so dangerous to the united states is they have one objective. carry out a ter tor attack. >> intelligence reports indicate they were in the final stages of plans to execute major attack against western target and potentially the u.s. homeland. >> an intelligent course says khorasan's potential plots include clothing dipped in explosive material or explosives contained in nonmetallic devices like toothpaste tubes. >> you could possibly get some of these types of devic

east and north africa. >> i want your reaction to theç that's now includeding bombing isis targets in syria. >> i fully support assad from power. he is the source of all of these refugee horror s''qiesxd that a just brought to light to your viewers, and i think we need to go after terror financing as well. qatar, countries like qatar, they're having it both ways, 5x% jose. yes, they're part of the coalition, they're helping somewhat. at the same time, qatar islp funding isil, !mÑ thge folks vice president decided which horse to bet on. >> as the president said, you can't always choose your allies, because they're sisters ofxd charity. you'reok allies at the time. >> but you have to go after, pressure qatar to cut that financing. you have to push turkey, an important ally, to get in the fight. so more can be done to get these folks involved. >> you think more rather than less. what's the policy on boots on the ground in then&o w3future? >> we shouldn't telegraph what we are not willing to do. shouldn't tell the enemy we're coming after you, going to destroy you, you are a network of death, you're a horrible ent

in syria, very harsh words here, saying that barack obama is neither cleared, north convincing -- neither clear nor convincing. saying it will be a costly and probably link the war in the middle eastgain. doing this without public discussion of strikes interior were a bad decision. it does beg the question of whether this is a just war carrying out these airstrikes. is it justifiable? after all, the exact purpose and duration is not quite clear. >> a lot of papers, interesting angles to them. focusing on the crucial role that turkey plays in this region. >> that is right, the turkish press come as you can imagine -- i pulled out an article that says turkey is ready to aid the u.s. in airstrikes against isis targets in syria, but as you can see, ingres -- ankara wants to know more about u. demand before more moves are made. and what more, turkey believes the islamist group is a product of the syrian regime's oppression. and destroying them will not have any meaning as long as bashar assad is still in power. but that is what is obligated about the system -- complicated about the situation. destroying these groups may benefit bashar assad. like it or not, they are fighting against th

you've got the problem in syria and iraq and you've got problems in other parts of the middle east and north africa. you've got -- look, even in pakistan, you've got a million people displaced. >> a million people. >> you can debate what you do about isis in the short term and that is vital but then we have to decide what to do about syria and there's this far bigger global question which is this extremism, how we deal with it and root it out, how we defeat it not just by combatting it but also, in my judgment, we've got to go to the education systems around the world where young people are being educated to, i'm afraid, a warped view of the world and this is going on with millions of young kids right around the world as we speak. >> i just read a very long article that you wrote about dealing with this crisis. what's the single most important thing that the world needs to do to deal with this threat? >> to treat education as a security issue and say it should be a basic principle for all countries that they educate their young people, to religious tolerance and respect the difference and ag

syria say war planes from the u.s.-led coalition bombed isis positions in 4 provinces in the north and east. the strikes reportedly hit a grain silo as well as the entrance to the country's largest gas plant. they are admitting u.s. intelligence under estimates the threat from isis. he spoke last night on 60 minutes. >> during the chaos on the syrian civil war where you have huge slots of the country ungovernorred, they were able to take advantage of that chaos and attract foreign fighters. >> mr. obama also says, they insist he will not put american combat troops on the ground to secure the region. >>> and 2 men arrested after setting fire in alameda. from 1:00 to 4:30. firefighters ran from fire to fire in a fairly small area centered around park street. 3 homes were set ablaze as frightened neighbors awoke to the chaotic scene. >> they saw somebody run in yelling it is arson, that they've set fire to the fence in the backyard. >> 8 fires in all, many within blocks of each other, and all deliberately set ner the sides of buildings. >> it seems to be convenience, where there were dumpsters

. >> back with colonel oliver north and joining us middle east expert and columnist and terrorism expert author of "future jihad." where is he? >> he's probably in syria their headquarters the place from which they branched out and taken from the lev vant all of the way down to south of baghdad as of yesterday. more than likely very well defended. we expect, i think they have got the same kind of if you will physical infrastructure you saw recently in gaza. >> i saw you nodding your head when oli spoke. >> they built their infrastructure in roka. that's when the u.s. wasn't looking and wasn't paying attention. the president was so fixated on his red line about using chemical weapons. that's the time baghdaddy jumped over. that's when they began their caliphate islamic state picking over oil fields taking over air fields, taking over all of the elements that are needed to make a state. he has the protection but at times he shows his face to invigorate the cause and radicalize others to join them as well. >> oli i gue-- waleed that's wh the syrian part of this is so important. the air strikes now are not in syria but if he is hiding there and he's the l

syria and iraq from east of aleppo through to raqqa hit in the strikes. reaching from the border into iraq. down to the second biggest launch that i.s.i.l. have through the north of iraq. >>> moving on. a video showing a hostage taken is genuine. a group claiming allegiance to i.s.i.l. captured the frenchman in the mountains. he calls on the french president francis hollande not to intervene in iraq. french citizens would be targeted. france says it is taking the threats seriously. >> reporter: the foreign ministry issued a statement confirming sadly the authenticity of the video of airman taken hostage. the threats from the group are serious, and testimony of cruelty of this movement we call diash known as the islamic state and all that support it. a few hours ago i spoke with the foreign minister. everything is being done in close cooperation with the algerian authorities. we must not hide the fact that this situation is extremely critical. >> a reminder that al jazeera continues to demand the release of its journalists imprisoned in egypt. peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy and baher mohamed have been detained for 269 days falsely accused of aiding the outla

east, russia is tearing up crimea and its troops. in the south, an arc of instability bends from north africa to the middle east. last night, we discussed the threat posed by isil and iraq in syria. so our message is clear. we are united by these barbaric and dispiespicable acts. to stand up and defeat them and to deal with all the threats that we face, our great alliance must evolve and refocus on the new capabilities we need to keep our people safe. and i hope in these sessions today, we can agree to the changes that are needed. for me, there are three. first, as russia tramps illegally over ukraine, we must reassure our eastern european members that we will always uphold our article five commitments to collective self-defense. so we must be able to act more swiftly. in 2002, nato stood down its high readiness force. i hope today we can agree a multi national spearhead force deployable anywhere in the world in just two to five days. this would be part of a reformed nato response court, four in the unit, three legal. if we can agree to this, the united kingdom will contribute 3,500 to this multi national force. second, as the secretary general has said, we must increase our cap

losing territory, but making gains inside syria in iraq government forces are saying that they are pushing isil back in the east, and to the north of the country. now the army has retaken parts of the province, clearing 16 villages of isil fighters. al jazeera reports. >> he calls call this area the triangle of death. the triangle consistents of three towns. and that's where the fiercest fighting against isil took place. but now, iraq's army and the kurdish say they are in charge, and they have taken back 16 villages in the province, and they are largely under their control. here the army says it stopped several attacks like these, still, villages remain nervous. >> they are regular roadside bombs across the town, not to mention a sticky bomb underneath one of the cars that exploded recently, we call on the security forces to take control. >> when isil took the town in late june. they are confident they will take it bake soon. >> we are now in the last front line that divides us, in which they are now inside the city. we normally engage in fighting with isil fighters at night, and early hours of the mopping. our morale is high,

hopefully that will be better armed from the east, and if the plan to arm and train the syria moderates - they'll have to deal with the syrians of the north-west. and who nose if the turks will be involved. they could have a three pronged, a four pronged war on their hands. >> if you look at the road networks they lead to syria. from the air force's perspective they'll monitor them 24/7. the fact they'll go on the offensive. we'll ignore the boredier between syria and go after the heads of i.s. this is a conventional army kicking up a lot of dust. those will be the tarts of opportunity that we weren't -- targets of opportunity that we wopt going after before -- won't going after before. >> how quickly can they do that? >> i think they have started. they anticipated the mission. n.a.t.o. will get involved. they'll have the capability to have command and control. the president will lead the coalition, it means synchronization of all the combat assets. as long as we have people on the ground and advisors on the ground. there'll be casualties, they'll be on the ground with the forces, directing the air strikes. they'll bring the combat power

uprisings in north africa and the broader middle east resulted in additional ungoverned space in syria libya, egypt and yemen. there were prison breaks in iraq and pakistan and libya, and the release of hundreds of prisoners in egypt. terrorists also escaped from prisons in yemen, a country that is no more ready to detain the terrorists at guantanamo today than they were back in 2009. the president's response to all of this has been to draw down our conventional forces and capability and to deploy special operations forces, an economy of force trained in assist missions across the globe. speaking at west point in may, he pointed to a network of partnerships from south asia to sa hi l to be funded by a partnership fund for which congress has yet to receive a viable plan. and in those cases with indigenous forces -- where indigenous forces prove insufficient and a need for direct action actually arises, the president announced his intent to resort to the use of armed unmanned aerial vehicles for strikes as has been done in yemen and somalia. by deploying special operations forces, the pr

colonel oliver north and joining us is middle east expert and columnist lisa and terrorism expert walid phares, author of "future jihad." ollie, where is baghdadi. >> probably in rocca syria. headquarters. place branched out and taken from the la vant to south of baghdad yesterday. very well defended. we expect, i think they have got the same kind of if you will physical infrastructure to protect them that we saw recently in gaza. >> lisa, you agree? i saw you nodding your head that you spoke al ollie there. >> they built their infrastructure? rocca. that's when the u.s. wasn't looking and wasn't paying attention. the president was so fixated baghdadi jumped over from iraq to syria. and they built the headquarters there. and that's when they really began their plans on thisate, oe picking over oil fields. that's where they are getting their revenue. taking over airfields and all the elements that are needed to make a state. and at the same time doing public crucifixions. we have covered that here at fox and we have been reporting about it all along. building this caliphate and building their headquarters, he must be there because he has the protection but at times he does

beyond isil, other terrorist networks in syria pose a threat to us, even as we continue to terrorist organizations across the middle east and much of north africa. i will talk now about how we assess the threat from isil. i will take a few minutes to walk through this. i will begin with the background. i think it is important to start their. a veteran sunni terrorists founded the group in 2004 and pledged his allegiance at the time to bin laden. iraq, targeted u.s. forces, targeted civilians using suicide bombers, car bombs, to pressure the u.s. and other countries to leave iraq and quickly gained a reputation for brutality and tyranny. isil's continued targeting and oppression of sunni civilians in iraq caused a widespread backlash against the group, often referred to as the sunni awakening. a surge in forces as well as iraq he counterterrorism operations that only denied and led to a sharp decrease. in 2011, the group began to reconstitute itself amiss growing sunni discontent in iraq and the civil war in syria. in 2012, isil conducted an average of 5-10 suicide attacks per month in iraq. by last summer, the number had grown to 30-40 s

east and north africa. newer threats such as cyber and missile attacks. >> also a message from the summit for members of the islamic state in iraq and syria. >> they shoulde very clear. these terrorists, their threats will only harden our resolve to stand up for our values and defeat them. to do so, and to deal with all threats that we face, our great alliance must now evolve and refocus on the new capabilities that we need to keep our people safe. >> on the ground in ukraine, they've been bracing themselves for days around the town of mariupol for now still in government hands. with word of heavy fighting here ahead of recent peace talks, fear is anguish and tensions in this crisis will go on. bbc news. >> well many eyes here are on those talks between russia, ukraine and pro russian rebels. although people are watching, there's no great expectation of a break through. several here have said to me, president putin may have put forward the seven point peace plan, put it seems to amount to tell the ukrainian army to back off and get out of eastern ukraine all together. that's simply not acceptable. from the view on the ground, i've been speaking to richar

what to do not only about islamic state in both syria and iraq but also what to do more broadly about the disintegration really of the middle east and northica as we've known it for so many decades. >> woodruff: i can't let you go without asking about afghanistan. >> the original point of this. >> woodruff: the central point of this meeting. what are they thinking now that the election is -- >> yeah, the end of the setup piece, judy. i asked a sunni u.s. official about this and said is there any wavering commitment of the n.a.t.o. allies to agree to stay on past september 14, the deadline when authority expires? he said, not yet, but at this summit they will sit down and act as if the election is settled. they will still put all the plans in place. okay, you, germany, you will take care of here and how many forces will that take and so on and so forth. so they're going to go ahead and plan. but he said, if anybody gets home -- i mean, the new president of afghanistan was supposed to come to the meeting. he's not coming, the defense minister is coming because there is no president. he said after a week after the meeting if it isn't settled

syria and their last holdout. isis has the suburbs in the north, assad has the suburbs in the south, and if you relieve the pressure on eastt of the two bad guy's party, that means they can hit the free syrian army. >> and as senator hagel said, as this is happening, the free syrian army is engaged in u.s. forces, the isil forces will attack the assad forces, we have a situation which is three dimensional chess. >> hagel did not look as if he had prepared his answer to that. it looked entirely off the cuff and made up. i have no idea what it's real policy, but he seemed to say we will come in in support of the free syrian army. it was a proposal for the syria crisis group which is the good guy monitors who have been reporting on syria. that would save them at least in the short run from isis and from the assad government. >> julia, on the threat from isis here, a couple of tweets, kenny k., absent real leadership in the who is and in congress on both sides of the aisle, terrorists see america as weak, i have great faith that our military and our intelligence folks will stop it's cities from attacking our homeland. on the o

and it's success in iraq and syria is as much about failed governments as it is about the strength of this movement. >> no doubt about it, misrule in the middle east and northafrica has embedded and helped the rise of islamist movements and now increasingly the most radical islamist movements we've seen in modern history. there is a problem with the way these regimes rule, but at the same time they've created this dichotomy. it's either us or the islamists. which would you like, mr. president. >> a remarkable choice we've been caused to face. ambassador, thank you for joining us, former ambassador to the united emirates and syria. the future superstars may not make a sweat. the rise of e-sports into a multi billion dollar business next. >> microsoft is mining for mine craft. media reports say the tech giant is in talks to buy the swedish company creator of mine craft for $2 billion. mine craft is a pixelateed video game and sold more than 50 million copies since 2009. the deal could help revive microsoft's x-box business. now imagine watching other people play video games while you sit in the stands or stare at a screen just like you would watch a baseball

colonel oliver north and joining us is middle east expert and columnist lisa and terrorism expert walid phares, author of "future jihad." ollie, where is baghdadi. >> probably in rocca syriaters. place branched out and taken from the la vant to south of baghdad yesterday. very well defended. we expect, i think they have got the same kind of if you will physical infrastructure to protect them that we saw recently in gaza. >> lisa, you agree? i saw you nodding your head that you spoke al ollie there. >> they built their infrastructure? rocca. that's when the u.s. wasn't looking and wasn't paying attention. the president was so fixated baghdadi jumped over from iraq to syria. and they built the headquarters there. and that's when they really began their plans on this caliphate, on islamic state picking over oil fields. that's where they are getting their revenue. taking over airfields and all the elements that are needed to make a state. and at the same time doing public crucifixions. we have covered that here at fox and we have been reporting about it all along. building this caliphate and building their headquarters, he must be there because he has the protection but at ti

north central syria. they're struggling to maintain their last military base in the east. but what i do sense, and they will try to inject themselves, they will expend the bulk of their military effort especially their remaining air power, hitting not the islamic state, most of their efforts even today, friday, september 12th, were not against islamic states. they were in suburban damascus and up around hama where they're fighting elements of the moderate, armed opposition. so that's why i say, we have to understand when we go into this, and we talk about supporting the syrian opposition, the syrian opposition is really fighting a two front war. islamic state on one side and outside regime on the other side. it's a tough, tough, hard fight. and so it's going to be messy as we try to sort of channel our assistance just to that one front but not to the other front then. assad is going to do everything he can to make that messy. >> okay. we're coming to the end of our time. two things. first for those of you in tv land, get our report. get one now. get them online. they're se

north carolina he converted after failing to get through boot camp. the 44-year-old excop talked to nbc news this summer while in the middle east. >> i purchased the ticket with the intent of entering syria after joining up with medical and food aid or directly with the islamic state. >> does he think he is participating in the terrorist activities? >> based on the definition, yes. >> he is like that toy that kids have when you shake it and it is bald. what is it called? >> what did you play with? >> i think that is from your dream. >> then it was a unicorn. lou, he said he was participating in terrorist activities, but only based on our definition of terrorism. should we cut him some slack? >> none whatsoever. i would like to be kind about these things, but he is obviously an idiot and one that aspires to being a lethal idiot. >> just because you are incompetent doesn't make you less evil. it just makes you bad at being evil. >> and to have an attitude, there is a sense of personal superiority about it all. i don't see where he earned it. >> he didn't. camille, he wasn't arrested for terrorism, but i think for trying to sell a gun on ebay or something. what should we do. you are a liber

syria and a 180km border with iraq. in the past they have provided intelligence to the u.s., like the u.s. uses military bases in the north and north-east of the country during its invasion in 2003 of iraq. i don't see why jordan is doing the same. jordan is tight-lipped about the role it will play, it is wary about playing a prominent role. we think it will, especially a logistical role in providing the intelligence and letting the troops close to the border. it's a political role. with the enchanted sunni tribes. it can get the tribes on board, garnering the troops on board to fight the islamic state. there's internal threats inside jordan, it's the rise of the movement. this movement has been in jordan but now we see that there are more sympathizers with the islamic state in the country and the government is trying to crack down on them quietly in this report. >> reporter: a brief visit to amman ahead of a summit in saudi arabia to discuss a global coalition against the islamic state group. the u.s. secretary of state john kerry met kink abdullah -- king abdullah to explore their role. jordanian officials are not expanding. >> all co