northcross, you see his passion. you understand also from his experience being a deputy in sacramento county that he understands from the law enforcement perspective what it is to work with young men. i think his grassroots sort of coming out of a place of care, him and the young men he touched when he started the program, you can see the impact because the young men still come back and support the program to this day. so him being a positive role model to them and them coming back to show the success they've had in their lives is showing us the important role that people like officer smith play. at some point we hope to see other african american men talk about what he meant to them and how he helped change their lives. >> i asked robert earlier some of the skills and leadership skills. what do you think is the most important thing you teach the kids? >> i think the most important thing is how you have relationships with people, how you treat people, how to be respectful to one another. one of the things i appreciat