you know, i come from northeastern pennsylvania, chris, where we have these fanciful motions of fairand free speech. i understand other americans feel the same way. those notions were trampled upon today in the oversight hearing, and the great irony, chris, is that our ranking member for the democrats is elijah cummings out of maryland. and mr. cummings started off, you know, when lois lerner first came to testify in congress, and when it was russell george who showed up last year with his detailed report about unfair targeting of certain political groups, mr. cummings was outraged and he expressed his outrage vow sieverously, and he was ready to reign down hellfire on whoever was doing this at the irs. >> that's an excellent point, a lot of people, we on this network, i remember doing the show that night, the initial indications were something truly, truly screwed up happened there, the question was how far up it went. i want to play elijah cummings talking about the extent of investigations that have already happened. take a listen. >> we have now interviewed 38 irs employees, hund