grey skies in northern england and certainly in scotland and northern ireland. in, maybe some drizzle in northern ireland. the cloud increases across southern parts, by holding on to brightness in the south coast until later. a few bright spells towards south— west wales and eastern scotland, but compared to today, lot of cloud, and still rain coming and going in the breeze. temperatures may be a bit higher than today that it will still feel a bit cool with the wind in force. not quite as chilly as tonight, so for manchester city fa ns tonight, so for manchester city fans it should be largely dry, fairly cloudy. don‘t be surprised to see some drizzle and a windy evening. and windy night to take us into wednesday. just some drizzle in the west but the rain will pep up in the west but the rain will pep up in south—west england as a weakening cold front works through. the winds of gusty in the east of scotla nd the winds of gusty in the east of scotland and eastern england, but many will be dry even with a bit of brightness. the cloud will dominate through the eveni

the great nation of great britain and northern ireland salute her bravery, courage, and heroism. prime minister, what would you agree with me the army medics are often the unsung heroes of conflict, and would you agree with me to discuss the implementation of a military covenant in northern ireland? >> first of all, i would be happy to meet him and his colleagues to talk about the implementation of the covenant in northern ireland. it is something i've spoken to the deputy of the first minister in northern ireland -- i know there are issues about implementing the covenant, but i know it can be done and would be happy to have that meeting. they spoke very strongly about the corporal and i think he's absolutely right that those in the medical corps do a fantastic job. it has been a huge honor and privilege to meet them. when you see the service they provide, you can put your hand and your heart to know that british military personnel in theater are getting as good medical care as i think anyone ever in history has gotten. it is truly remarkable what they do. >> number 8, sir. healt

she plays football for the northern ireland national team. in a squad traditionally dominated by protestants. unlike many people from her neighborhood. >> she has been here before. i have seen her reaction. i wish there would always be people like that. most people do want to move forward, and they are happy. i think that is brilliant. it is better moving othan sting in the past. them of rose has a mother raise all of her children to be tolerant and open-minded. she lost a brother to the conflict. he was a member of the ira and was shot dead by british soldiers. >> it was quite different coming up. it was quite scary. you really do not want to see that, you know? i always tell my children death is sadness and somebody owns that person. >> they did not grow up with violence and grief. for the generation, peace has become the norm, but interdenominational friendships like theirs are few and far between. how do they see people coming together? >> definitely through sport. i think it is encouraging kids to do stuff like that. >> it is bringing pe

>> what we saw in northern ireland was a two-track process. weapons while at the same time maintaining peace talks. there's a lesson there, i think, for the israeli side and for hamas and others to commit to talks immediately without these preconditions of do away with a charter, you must give up your weapons immediately, and you've got recognize israel as a jewish state otherwise we can't talk. that rhetoric over the last 20, 30 years has resulted in this constant situation of going to war every four to five years. that policy can't be upheld. there's a new middle east. hamas is not as isolated as it was as recent as 2008. now it has allies in turkey and other places. for the obama administration to capitalize on this post-war situation and try to bring a lasting settlement to this difficult region by maintaining this twin-track policy. rather than trying to say unless you do x, y and z, we're not going to be talking to you. because the ugly reality, israelis are talking to hamas. you know, they did that this time around. you know, the u.s. s

in northern ireland which is a parallel i have drawn a few times because i had a local interest in itously. tony blair in the end got a deal done there finally peace, after a lot of appalling terrorism on both sides, from the loyalists and from the i.r.a. he got a deal by sitting down as the prime minister of great britain, sitting down opposite people he knew had been terrorists for the i.r.a. and basically biting the bullet. are you guys prepared to sit down with hamas leaders and actually deal directly with people who many believe now have more authority than the palestinian authority? >> first of all, thank you for asking me, because i heard you talk about it once and being israel's ambassador, former ambassador to the court of st. james, you would agree with me that even the craziest of crazy northern ireland did not claim them as the capital. we have hamas that does not recognize israel's right to exist. what do you want me to negotiate with them? how deep the hole, what flowers to invent to get to my funeral? at the end of the day, we are dealing with a terrorist organization.

as my right noble friend, the secretary and state of northern ireland said in the house on friday we utterly condemn this cowardly crime. our thoughts are with david's wife and children at this distressing time. mr. speaker, i'm sure also the house would want to join me in congratulating president obama on his election victory last night. the only point i will be cheered today. we look forward to continuing the government's work with him in building a more prosperous, a more free and more table world. mr. speaker, this morning i had meeting with ministerial colleagues in addition to my duties in this house and shall have further meetings today. mr. ian wright. >> thank you. my i associate myself with the tribute to the fallen service men and it's right this house pay tribute to those who have fallen in service and never more so in week of remembrance sunday. may i also say president obama will be relieved to get the support of the deputy. [laughter] >> mr. speaker, the former metropolitan police commissioner said the police morale is at national crisis levels. is he right? and why is

and in 1990s, he served as chair of peace negotiations in northern ireland that led to the successfulfriday peace agreement. i spoke to him about the difficulties that lie ahead. how optimistic are that you this cease-fire can hold, and what would the next steps be? assuming it does hold? >> it's a big step forward, the violence has ended, and that's critically important, the longer it goes on with more fighting and dying, the hard ter er it i solve any problem. it will be difficult to have a really enforceable truce over a long period of time. there may be a recognition here that both side's interests can be served by stopping this kind of violence and getting down to the underlying issues that involved both. >> in terms of a larger peace agreement. a larger negotiation, how complicated does it become because of the divisions within palestinian groups, between afatah, hamas and also involvement of other groups, factions, is halfic jihad. >> very complicated. by far and away the most complicated situation i've been involved in. and far beyond what you described. it makes it very diffi

having said that, if you look at northern ireland it was only when the political wing of the ira was legitimized, that they achieved any lasting settlement. do you see a parallel there? and do you see a time when hamas will be seen as a legitimate body by israel? >> reporter: you know if hamas changed and moderated its positions, if hamas met the three benchmarks that were articulated by the united nations, that is recognizing my country to exist. abandoning terrorism and violence, then the negotiations could begin. but on the contrary, i think in many ways hamas is stuck in a very extreme position. and the evidence we saw for that today. we had the bombing in tel aviv on the bus. and hamas praised that. they welcomed that. they said that was legitimate. and so as long as hamas is doing that sort of thing it is difficult to be optimistic. but if they do change, if they do moderate. if they fundamentally reserve some of their very hard line positions, the door can be opened. >> i mean, do you accept, though, obviously in the last eight or nine days, 30 times as many palestinians have

in northern ireland, a completely different situation, i spent five years there.t through thousands of repetitious hours. there was yelling. insults. people storming out of the room, storming back. demanding the other side be thrown out. there was quite a bit of that. and you have to have a huge reservoir of patience to be able to sit through it, listen to it all, let everybody have their say. but in the end, what you have to identify is their self-interest. peace with not be imposed from the outside unless you do it by overwhelming force of arms which is obviously not the case here. the parties have to want peace themselves. they can't rely upon the united states or any outside power to bring them to peace if they're not interested themselves. we've now had since the creation of israel 12 israeli prime ministers, 10 american presidents, 19 american secretaries of state, countless envoys like myself. and it didn't get done. but it's all important and we have to keep trying. >> senator mitchell, i really appreciate your time. fascinating to listen to you. thank you

in northern ireland, i was able to be a child.don't think that american children are allowed to be children. they immediately have to go from being born to being grownups. in some families that may be true. but within this country, there are many different approaches to raising children. you know what this is ? it's sweet basil. basically, the colombian culture is colombianorns... married to colombian borns raising colombian borns. we seem to have a more homogeneous way of raising kids. whereas, in the united states, you have people from all over the world bringing all types of styles. and it's making a salad of all these styles... and creating what we think is right. mr. shuster will be here any minute. where did jamal and henry take stuart ? i'm sure they'll be back any second. - did they take rosa with them ? - she had to leave early today. something about an emergency trip to the hairdresser. just relax, mr. brashov. you have nothing to worry about. that is easy for you to say. you do not have a landlord... who will make life

taxes and yesterday i announced one of the key priorities of the g-8 which i will be sharing, in northern ireland in june of next year. and get proper international agreement paying taxes properly. >> to my right hon. friend, a preschool opening next year. one of a most deprived to provide a letter for social mobility for young people. a great tangible assets but what the government is doing in terms of education. >> very kind invitation for my hon. friend. and all of the 78 preschools that have been established over the last two years making good progress, established between now and the next election and the last government manage 200 academies in 13 years, we did 2,000 in 2-1/2 years academy and preschool with the agenda the biggest possible boost we can. >> a certain closed question. >> i look forward to visiting scotland soon and i will look carefully whether i can visit the hon. gentleman's constituency. >> if you months ago came to my constituency and was going to give me the opportunity of taking a around, and my apprenticeship and -- a mind, the taliban who was a loan shark, a weak a pou

for the atlantic is going to be spreading in some heavy rain to parts of scotland as well as northern ireland and up across the western coast of norway, you could see some snow in the upper elevations, as well. heavy rain has been focusing on austria and northern italy. now, that is startling to settle down and that is good news. venice is under water, as i'm sure you saw the video we had and pictures. very severe picture there. but the rain is easing up, so that's certainly good news. however, things will remain fairly unsettled. heavy rain across northern algeria could freed lede to flashflooding and we could see hail as well. temperatures across europe. 13 degrees in london, we're seeing 10 in paris, around 10 in berlin as well as vie yaen that, through to kiev, 6 degrees, 6 in warsaw, and also down towards the south, we're managing to stay in the 20s in rome as well as athens. i'll leave you now to your extended forecast. ♪ >>> oyster growers in mia ga prefecture, northeastern japan, are back in business. they've made their first regular shipment since last year's tsunami devastated their

steady stream of moisture coming in, heavy rain hitting western norway as well as scotland and northern ireland and ireland. things are going to get a little bit clearer across the british aisles as we head on into thursday. however, still seeing some snow up towards the north of norway and some heavy showers further down towards the south and west. pretty much clear here across much of the continent as well. central locations right towards the east. high pressure is keeping things clear, but we have this system moving now out of algeria coming to the central mediterranean. that will be you in southern italy, the southern balkans. the potential for flash flooding, short time heavy rain coming down. let's take a look at temperatures. 10 degrees in stockholm, 6 in warsaw as well as in kiev. paris and london at respective respectively. 21 degrees in rome. here's your extended forecast. >>> once again our lead news for this hour, japanese voters have spent weeks listening to their politicians debate the possibility of an early election. now they have a date to mark on their calendars. they'll be go

, that i think it would be a great advertisement for everything that people in northern ireland can achieve and, i hope, the harbinger of events to come. >> does the prime minister agree that the united states loss of its aaa rating shows that the u.k. retains the confidence of the market because of the difficult but necessary decision that is we are take -- decisions that we are taking? >> because we've set out a clear plan, we're able to have low interest rates, we're able to have international confidence which is the proper growth plan for the u.k.. >> order. i'm grateful to the prime minister and colleagues. point of order, diana johnson. >> thank you, mr. speaker. i understand that it is not finish. >> here on c-span2 we'll leave the british house of commons now as they move on to other legislative business. you've been watching prime minister's question time aired live wednesdays at 7 a.m. eastern while parliament's in session. you can see this week's question time again sunday night at 9 eastern and pacific on c-span. >>> and for more information go to c-span.org and clic

top of group effort a one hundred percent record as we continue their road to brazil against northern ireland dimanche next year which of ample three donte. question. now to the best of the rest here is the pick of the week. on monday while number one know by joke of it finished the year in style the serbian edge number two roger federer out to win the a.t.p. world tour finals in london in his writing open champion closed out his seven six seven five victory with this stunning shot. while on tuesday mike d'antoni returned for me replacement surgery to become the new head coach of the l.a. lakers the sixteen time be a champions had sacked mike brown following a slow start to the season and have since won for the last five games. and on wednesday it kept in the slot on either head of each camp i remember a ball for goal performance with this stunning thirty five yard overhead kick to give sweden a thrill to throw you victory over england in the first match in the new national stadium the striker has now scored two hundred forty six career goals in just five hundred four appearances but this is

taxes and yesterday i announced one of the key priorities of the g-8 which i will be sharing, in northern ireland in june of next year. and get proper international agreement paying taxes properly. >> to my right hon. friend, a preschool opening next year. one of a most deprived to provide a letter for social mobility for young people. a great tangible assets but what the government is doing in terms of education. >> very kind invitation for my hon. friend. and all of the 78 preschools that have been established over the last two years making good progress, established between now and the next election and the last government manage 200 academies in 13 years, we did 2,000 in 2-1/2 years academy and preschool with the agenda the biggest possible boost we can. >> a certain closed question. >> i look forward to visiting scotland soon and i will look carefully whether i can visit the hon. gentleman's constituency. >> if you months ago came to my constituency and was going to give me the opportunity of taking a around, and my apprenticeship and -- a mind, the taliban who was a loan shark, a weak a pou

there is going to be consistently heavy rain across the british isles, scotland, particularly, northern ireland, ireland, and up into norway. that will head on into wednesday, as well. 50 mill meet imeters of rain ish to cause some flooding in the british isles and that's certainly what you're going to be getting. here are your temperature, and i will leave you now with your extended forecast. ♪ >>> we'll be back with more updates in 30 minutes. i'm gene otani in tokyo.

been unthinkable 20 years ago, to have that sort of event with so many world leaders coming to northern ireland, that i think it would be a great advertisement for everything that people in nohern ireland n achieve and, i hope, the harbger of events to come. >> does the prime minister agree that the united states loss of its aaa rating shows that the u.k. retains the confidence of the market because of the difficult but necessary decision that is we are take -- decisions that we are taking? >> because we've set out a clear plan, we're able to have low interest rates, we're able to have international confidence >> you have been watching prime minister's questions from the british house of commons. question time airs every wednesday when the house of commons is in session and on sunday nights on c-span. watch any time on c-span.org, were you can find videos of other programs. next, leon panetta on the fight against out high debt and the impact of sequestration. at 11:00 p.m., q&a on the white house recordings of president john f. kennedy. after that, another chance to see british prime minister d

that they were actually tougher negotiations than the ones he had to hold to to negotiate the northern ireland peace process so it really is the place those budget talks and remember their for seven years right it's a very long time. it really is a place where national problems political problems that leaders are facing at home plea out on the european level each of them comes wanting something some of the wealthier member states like you mentioned want cuts to the budget but some of the wealthier member states a little disagree among themselves about how big those cuts would be some of the poorest states and i can tell you for sure that most states are now poorer and really needing the money from the e.u. budget one to keep those levels of spending as high as possible for the next seven years because they stand to benefit real sticking point always has been for example money spent on the so-called common agriculture agree cultural policy which economists and and several people around the world have decried as essentially subsidies for european agricultural products now fronts sees the common

prison and which they are confined you know really need to look back at the apartheid states of northern ireland and south africa to see that what's happening today in palestine is no different now our elected leaders may be turning a blind eye to this injustice but you don't have to. if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel youtube dot com slash break in the set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com back in the set are check out our website a fan made us that break in the set dot com also you can follow me on twitter abby martin now i like take a break from my preaching but say turn to hear perspective on the israeli palestinian issue that you won't hear on the mainstream media. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. in the music city good lumber tourny to mccurry was able to build a new most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't g

it's correct to say that the labor party and others including minority parties the d u p from northern ireland some of the welsh nationalists scottish nationalists supported a conservative amendment so it wasn't conservative m.p. supporting the labor party the opposition of a long i think versus a united parliament very strong message from last night's vote actually strengthened surprise minister sound when he negotiates the issue on the twenty second of november you know the european your reporter was absolutely right the european issue is going to run and run because europe is going to be more of an issue in this parliament rather than less of an issue and i think it's politically smart for the government and i'm a member of the governing party to actually be in touch with public opinion rather than be out of touch but as part of the problem of the european project in many other member states the political elites of brussels and. member states are out of touch with their citizens and i think that is a very dangerous place to be now there has been talk of a referendum on the u.k. remaining pa

it's something i have spoken to the deputy, the first minister and the deputy first minister in northern ireland. it hope it can be done, and i'd be happy to have that meeting. i think he's absolutely right that hose in the medical regiment do a fantastic job. it's been a huge honor and a privilege for me to meet some of them including in afghanistan, and when you see the service they provide, you really can put your hand on your heart and know that british military personnel in theater are getting as good medical care as i think anyone ever in history has got. it is truly remarkable what they do. >> [inaudible] >> number eight, sir. >> prime minister, the hospital will retain its actions emergency and maternity services. any suggestion otherwise is simply scare mongering of the worst kind. >> [inaudible] >> kettering has the sixth highest household growth rate in the whole country, and a&e admissions are up 10 percent year on year. given the hospital has been at the heart of the community for well over 100 years, don't local people deserve a clear assurance that our much-loved and badly-needed

could i ask him if he believes that it will be possible to bring further events to northern ireland in the future? >> we'll look at that. it is the right decision for the ga to be based in northern island on the 17th and 18th of june. standing there with the prime minister and deputy prime minister in ireland, talking about the situation. something that would be unthinkable 20 years ago. to have that sort of event with so many world leaders coming to northern island. it would be a great advancement for everything in northern ireland can achieve. >> the triple a status when france lost it this week, shows the uk retains confidence in international market because of the difficult, but necessary decisions that we are facing. >> i think my honorable friend makes a good point. because we've set out a clear plan, we're able to have low rates and confidence. it's line one, paragraph one for the uk. >> you've been watching prime minister's questions from the british house of commons. question time airs live on c-span2 every wednesday at 7 a.m. eastern. >> governor cristie said the damage was u

prison and which they are confined you know really need to look back at the apartheid states of northern ireland and south africa to see that what's happening today in palestine is no different now our elected leaders may be turning a blind eye to this injustice but you don't have to. if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel youtube dot com slash break in the set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash break in the set or check on our website a fan made us at break instead dot com also you can follow me on twitter abby martin now take a break from my preaching but say turn to hear perspective on the israeli palestinian issue that you won't hear in the mainstream media. wealthy british style the stock. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cons or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines two kinds of reports. more news today violence is once again fled the film these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china corporations are today. looking for a better shape

prison and which they are confined you know really need to look back at the apartheid states of northern ireland and south africa to see that what's happening today in palestine is no different now our elected leaders may be turning a blind eye to this injustice but you don't have to. if you like what you see so far go to our youtube channel and you tube dot com slash break in the set and subscribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash break in the set or check on our website a fan made us a break in said dot com also you can follow me on twitter abby martin now i like take a break from my preaching but say turn to hear perspective on the israeli palestinian issue that you won't hear on the mainstream media. thank. you mr. let's look at one of the other thing i mean like. over the past several days thirteen palestinians have been killed resulting from a new israeli offensive called operation pillar of defense now israel's official reason for launching the attack on gaza is that it was all retaliation to rockets being launched from the gaza strip but you probably don't know is tha

in northern ireland i sat through five years there. people were storming back dem d demanding that the other side be back. you have to be able to sit through it and let everyone have their say. in the end you have to identify their self interest. peace cannot be imposed by the other side. the parties have to want peace themselves. they can't rely on outside power to bring them to peace if they are not interested themselves. we have had creation of israel. ten american presidents and 19 american secretaries of state and it didn't get done. but it simimportant that we have to keep trying. >> senator mitchell, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >> well, it is a different scene in gaza city. we are going to check and find out what is going on right now. whether the drones are still flying. we are going to talk to him next. oh, hey mike. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't

i see it with northern ireland. he sorted peace there and he did it the hard way. he sat down with the terrorist group like hamas and negotiated it through and legitimized itten the end do you think it is inevitable and essential that the same process happens with hamas that so many arab countries believe that it is an elected body and should be legitimized? >> we saw a two track process. there were no huge preconditions put forward? the weapons while at the same time and peace talks there is a lesson there for the israeli side to commit to talks without the preconditions that do away with the charter. you must give up where weapons and give up the jewish state. that over the last 20 or 30 years has resulted in the constant situation of going to war. that can't be upheld. there is in the new middle east. now it has allies in egypt and turkey and these are u.s. allies and it is an important junction now capitalize on the post war situation to try and bring a lasting settlement by maintaining the policy rather than trying to say if you do x, y and z we won't talk to

in northern ireland, i spent five years there. sitting through thousands of many hours. and there was yelling, insults, people storming out of the room, demanding that others be thrown out of the room. there was quite a bit of that. and you have to have a huge reservoir of patience, sit through it, listen to what everybody has to say. but in the end, you listen to their sides. peace can't be imposed by the outside, unless you do it by an overwhelming force of arms, which is not the case here. the parties have to want peace here. they can't rely any outside pow they're not interested in it themselves. we have had ten american presidents, israelis, 19 american secretaries of state, countless envoys like myself. and it didn't get done. but it is so important that we have to keep trying. >> senator mitchell, i really appreciate your time. it is fascinating to listen to you. >> thanks, anderson. >> well, it is a much different situation than what we saw earlier this morning. we'll check on ben wedeman, to determine if the drones are still flying. we'll talk to him next. i don

. >> rose: i mean look at northern ireland today. >> yeah. >> rose: and they were in the government together. >> sure, as a matter of fact jerry adams is going around telling people how to end the conflict. >> rose: and a former head of the military wing of the ira are one of their principal figures is to you being honored by the establishment in britain. >> yeah, sure. >> rose: so it's possible. >> it is, absolutely possible. >> rose: never give up. >> when i went to lebanon in '88 everybody say poor man, what are you going to do there. >> rose: why are you here. >> yeah,. >> rose: but look at what happened in lebanon. >> you know, we did the agreement. we ended the fighting. and you know, the interesting thing is that now 23 years later, almost every day you have a lebanese who says life is very bad. and another one who says we cannot do without him, until now so it wasn't that bad an agreement rdz what dot iranians want? >> you know what they say is that they want a peaceful settlement. this is what they say. they want negotiation between the government and the op zultion. i suppose you k

. >> tony blair, iron beingly is a man who solved the northern ireland issue and he's in the middle ofthis as a middle east peace envoy. he would say to me that this comes down to debate with each other to tiny little parts of territory. >> we know what the outcome will be. >> here is a peace deal and they are very close. >> fractional issues, but still caused this terrible bloodshed. >> we don't know what a peace deal will be with hamas. hamas refuses to recognize israel. i asked from the peculiars lo which is how much control do they have? i have a lot of sympathy from the poor people of gaza and not hamas who are blasting rockets and the main booed of 1.5 million severely oppressed people living with no hope, no jobs. nothing. what is the way to try and get a better life for them? who can bring that to them? >> i agree with allen that israel certainly has a right to self-defense. a, i would contest the idea that this is an effective way to do that. no israelis have been killed by this shower of hamas rockets which is absolutely unacceptable and deplorable and nobody had been killed

we did not bring peace in northern ireland by citing the charter of the sinn fein.at by chartering initiatives on the ground and reaching out by third parties. you have an ideal opportunity to rescue the agreement on the deathbed. i'm afraid israelis will be returning to the psychological terror they imposed on tel aviv and gaza and elsewhere. the failed policies of the last 60 years of constant warfare every five and ten years cannot be the way forward. you must revise your strategy going forward and end this bombarding of people inside gaza tonight and beyond. >> i was in new york on september 11th. i don't recall that on september 12th, the united states engaged in dialogue with al qaeda. with terrorists who are determined to wipe out the jewish state, you have to stand strong. >> this has been going on since 1948. >> it's exactly the same. it's exactly the same. >> no, it's not. >> israel is at the forefront of a huge wave of radical islam that's sweeping the entire middle east. i can tell you that i have four kids, i have no desire for them to go to war. i want

it's just to give the feeling of what northern ireland was like. >> we're showing "freedom of the ski" on the main stage and we're showing julian sands in the celebration of harold pointer in the down stairs studio space. >> he'll call again. i'll be back in time for tea. >> there's an irish painter james connolly who said the struggles of the irish people are the struggles of the people all over the world. i think when we put on a great work of art people are going to identify with it. no matter where they're from. >> rose: it weaves together anecdotes of harold pinter with readings from his poetry. the play closes with a love poem addressed to his wife and a meditation on death. >> poem for a. i shall miss you so much when i'm dead, the loveliest of smiles. the softness of your body in our bed. my ever lasting bride remember that when i'm dead you are forever in my heart and my head. i know the place, it is true, everything we do corrects the space between death and me and you. >> rose: harold pinter died in december, 2008. i went to london to interview him on the stage of the old v

>> because what i compare it to is a different situation but in some ways, it's similar, was northern ireland, which very close to where i was brought up. in the end, they managed to get peace and prosperity there. i think by just showing the people that there was a better way, and showing them the benefits of some form of prosperity. if you don't show the people in gaza, the really poor palestinians who are suffering, if you can't show them even a glimmer of hope, to me it's no surprise if they then start to lend themselves in a supportive manner to groups like hamas. it's not surprising. it doesn't justify anything that hamas does in terms of its terrorism but it can't be a surprise that people who are desperate and have no hope in the end get drawn to these groups. >> well, look, you have an experiment to prove the point you are making. the west bank has been allowed to flourish, it's created a kind of middle class life, economic growth on the west bank has been 6%, 7%, 8% over the last decade and as a result, you don't see a great deal of terrorism coming out of the west bank. now, the is