their community to be able to be reconstructive really if it's a long-term conflict such as in northern uganda i think the scale of sexual violence is what becomes so shocking, but also so familiar. one of the things that is odd about rape and sexual violence in conflict is that it is such a daily experience, and yet accountability and responsibility for it is so exceptional. i think that's about a balance we want to reverse. >> before we go i want to talk to you about what role economics plays in this. a lot of men who are doing this, this is the only part of their life that they feel empowered in, rightly or wrongly, they're often degraded because of the economic circumstances they live. >> i think that's often the case, but i don't think we want to confuse the issue by saying that rape doesn't happen in the higher income population. there is no question, but in times of stress, economic or otherwise, this is going to increase. and certainly economics is part of the solution. we know that when women have money not only do their children get educated and healthy, but they are protective of th

well, the impact of sexual violence in yo uganda, especialy northern part of uganda is still evidentt of the communities we walk in. we have worked with girls who have come back from cap till at this. many came back with babies. >> the lord's resistence. >> exact had, yeah. a lot of them came back with babies, young children who are now growing up and that impact is there h the stigma associated to having a child bon in captivity from a rebel leader is there. still needs to be work with the community. and the survivers come back, yes, some of them came back four or five year ago but recently they received two survivors that just returned. we are still seeing a stream of people coming through, particularly girls and young women. the impact is is there, there need to be a lot of community awareness for them to be accepted back but also a lot of support for those girls and young women to be able to better reintegrate in to their communities. >> i suppose i should have, does the sexual violence end when the conflict, the war itself end? >> absolutely not. and i think that's really an imp