the same measures of the adjacent properties, it shows 40 feet 3 inches, and the other property, northside, bridget rather, the west side, -- rather, the west side, 32 feet. it would seem as though this particular property is pretty much in the context of the height of the adjacent buildings. >> the only clarification i would make is they're doing it to the top of a pitched roof, so the volume is not quite the same. commissioner antonini: i get you. to the top of the pitch, the highest point. i understand that if it is not a pitch and i have filled in the two sides, the volume is great, but if you're just measuring the height at the highest point, that is probably what they are saying. i appreciate that. the project sponsor has done a lot of things i have asked them for, and that was adding cornices that had a pitch to them. it is not an unusual or unheard of concept. he say a lot of houses throughout san francisco that will have facades with small pitched roofs and tiles on them to keep them with the other homes in the area, even though the risk behind it may be flat. this is done all the

he presents his book at the national conference on christian apologetics held at northside baptist churchn charlotte, north carolina. this program is 50 minutes. [applause] >> thank you all very much. i didn't realize i was going to have this invisible podium. i am really relieved i remembered to wear pants. [laughter] i am thrilled to be here for the fourth year in a row, speaking at the national apologetics conference. alex mentioned that i have a new job. i'm the president of the king's college. it is a christian college, with a quite unique mission. most christian colleges in some sense are a shelter from society they protect christian students from what is seen often rightly s. e. influence of mainstream institutions. one of the dangers however is that, when you insulate young people from mainstream institutions, you cut them off from those institutions. the reason that the king's college is in new york city is we don't protect you, but they do prepare you, so our goal is to take bright young students, mostly christians, and equip them to defend their faith and secular society and al