commission for england and wales, first police and crime pensioner to put the policy into practice in northumbriaou. explain how the scheme came about as a pilot for your part of the country.— about as a pilot for your part of the country. yes, we were not happy — of the country. yes, we were not happy with _ of the country. yes, we were not happy with the _ of the country. yes, we were not happy with the police - not happy with the police response to domestic abuse. the local women's charities, particularly one, refuge, domestic abuse charities, they said so, and they were saying it is not specialists who go out, it is response beliefs. they have to be trained, and they are, but they don't all get it. we are the ones who understand and the suggestion was, can't we go with them when they attend an emergency call? in fact, that is exactly what we did in the first place. we had a car with a worker from women's aid and a police officer and a domestic abuse call, the first unit would go in case it was an emergency, then this car would go, the officer would say, will you speak to my friend from women'