northup, do you agree to? >> the bill has provisions that track the constitutional standards that you say that there needs to be an exception for a woman's life and health, as the supreme court has said. >> so could a state pass a law that banned abortion in the last trimester, except for life of the mother and rape and incest? your answer would be no? >> the standard would have to be that this would bring court has recognized. >> mystifies? >> i think probably one of the best examples would be when the sponsor of the bill, chairman blumenthal, was asked if this bill would ban abortions, talks about life or health committee said that the health would make no distinction -- the exception makes no distinctive woodwind physical or psychological health. so it would be very difficult, impossible under this bill to ban abortions for health and psychology and psychological health is going to be -- >> there are 13 states -- thank you. there are 13 states that an elective abortions after 20 weeks except in case of rape

northup. doctor monique chireau spent yes, thank you. it's an honor -- thank you.s an honor to be here today, senator blumenthal, senator grassley. inez doctor monique chireau. among the faculty of the duke university medical school and also practicing obstetrician gynecologist and a clinical researcher. s. 1696 could be interpreted to invalidate virtually any type of the current state laws which place restrictions on, religion on abortion but it would endanger health care providers freedoms of conscience but it would prohibit the future enactment of such protective laws. the purpose of the bill as we understood is to protect women's health by ensuring that abortion services will continue to be available. implicit in the stated purpose of the bill are the four following assumption. number one which is that abortion is good and save for women. number two, rig regulation are medically aborted. number three, access to abortion is important to women's health and number four, the state has no interest in protecting unborn children. i will address each of these -- cdc de

northup? >> >> like the 9th circuit did with arizona's 20-week ban, yes, it would be unconstitutional, and this bill tracks the -- >> states that have waiting periods, requiring a waiting period before an abortion is performed, would this bill strike that down? >> yes. >> ms. tobias, do you agree with that? >> i don't. it depends on what the court would look at. so, again -- >> so you don't know how the bill works? >> yes, oh, yes, i do. the first question would be is this type of waiting period -- >> well, the ones that are on the books, the ones that you're familiar with, can you wait one state law with waiting period that you think would survive? >> well, i would say that i think it's important that we look at the factors in the bill. does it apply -- >> you name one state with a waiting period requirement that you think would survive scrutiny under this bill? >> well, if it were able to say that it did not significantly impede access to services -- >> thank you. >> if it was a waiting peri

it would prevent -- is northup, do you agree with that? >> the bill has provisions that attracts a constitutional standard that do say that those buying abilities needed to be an exception for a woman's life and health as the supreme court has said. >> so, could a state passed the law that bans abortion in the last trimester except for the life of the mother and rape and incest your answer would be no? >> they standard would have to be that. >> what would you say ms. tobias? >> i think probably one of the best example examples would be e sponsor of the bill, jim and blumenthal was asked if the bill would ban abortions it talks about life were held and he said the health make no distinction. the exception makes no distinction between physical or psychological health. so it would be very difficult and impossible under the bill to ban abortions for help if psychology and psychological health is going to be -- >> there are 13 states -- thank you -- there are 13 states that ban elective abortions after 13 weeks except for rape and incest. would

nancy northup, with this legislation prohibits the use of ultrasound when a patient requests? >> oh, no. not at all. this law, again, is focused on those underhanded type of restrictions that are treating abortion not like some of these -- similarly situated medical practices that do not advance health and safety and are harming access to services. >> in essence it would be irrelevant to the instances described? >> absolutely and also explicitly does not cover the question of insurance funding. would not invalidate those laws. it has nothing to do with minors and specifically says it does not address issues about parental consent and edification loss. >> monique chireau, have you ever performed an abortion? >> no, i have not. >> dr. parker, how many abortions have you performed? >> i don't have that number right off the bat, but i can tell you that over 20 years of patient care, i have seen thousands of women, and some have been an abortion care. >> in your experience to over how many years? >> twenty. >> twenty years, has the wit of a hallway in those clinics where you have p