norwalk new york is one of the few and that's recently been done first year most cities, in fact, don't have those kind of controls. p if i may the issue of public process we're happy to have the public discussion but i'm concerned about one of the things involving the conciliatory in a project will significantly add to the costs and certainly we can't involve the public on the selection of the consultant. i'd like to have a suggestion of rather than having a scope meeting we could just have that done by e-mail rather than having a scoping meeting. so we do have several board members who are really anxious to move forward. so rather than have a meeting just have a week-long e-mail process. >> commissioner moore. >> following up on what the director is saying you could hand out e-mails for a particular line item of interest to include while your scoping so it's not just an effort afterwards but helps in getting input before it happens. the second thing i often mention that you might set this up for a grant because if there's the this city does things that could be a national thing. perha

so the process itself for rate norwalk. as i said before it's a full analysis.he methodology is consistent with the rates we've gotten in prior years and consistency in employer to employer. so it's just the way they do it soe at least kno in the format of their proposal what it's going to be. our auditor reviews this and the premium rate is reasonable and they understand and that the underline method lonely supports that. we can argue about though they have their services but the methodology is the same. the methodology is the same and a i'm sorry to keep interrupting but i'm looking at the recommendations by the service board and the act rate renewal was capped and no co- pay increases so employers and members share in the savings a charge no more than 10 percent of interacted care management. i'm wondering >> that notice not our staff that made the recommendations that was the departments. >> how much was the recommendation from the health board. >> actually, my networks slide covers that but bend they approved those so none of changes were forthcoming but at

norwalk new york is one of the few and that's recently been done first year most cities, in fact, don't have those kind of controls. p if i