lockdown, as you've acknowledged, and the death tolls, denmarkjust over 500, finland just over 200, norwayjustifferent from sweden's, and the point really is that they now feel they are in a position to ease their strict lockdowns, to bring some sense of normality back to their populations and to quote one of the senior ministers in denmark, they feel that there's "very little chance of a second spike in infections" because of what they have achieved. so they are as far along the curve as you are, but they've prevented hundreds and hundreds of deaths that you failed to prevent. i don't understand what you mean that they are as far along the curve as we are. 0bviously they are not. if only i% or 2% of their population has been infected, they are not very far along any kind of curve. but they are confident that because of measures that they took and the social distancing and the public consciousness that they now have, that the disease will not spread and will not kill the numbers that have been killed in sweden. yep, and only the future can tell. if you look at similar kind of diseases, we have