eric: nothign in the commercial atmosphere. charlie: doing it on behalf of commercial entities.he chinese. you are saying we don't do that, but we do it for national security reasons. eric: we have capacity we make full use of. i will leave it at that. i am not going to get in trouble with the justice department. [laughter] know where the line is. you question donald trump's gray matter. do you think is not smart enough to be president? eric: i sometimes think he hides behind a certain bravado just to hide a lack of substance. a person this far along in the process, i think we would know little bit more about what his plans are. we would know more about who his mentors might've been. who his intellectual guides might be. i don't think that is any of that to him. he seems to be a very shallow man. charlie: you don't see intellectual interest other than a businessman. whose value sent is primarily, and he said that to a degree, winning. eric: yeah, winning. charlie: that is what he said america needs to do. america needs to win. win against the chinese. eric: guess what charlie? w