it's been reported that nouri al-maliki is in the running for vice president. troaivecontroversial candidate for are prime minister, objection to any of the candidates may mean the entire list is discarded. jane arraf is live for us in baghdad. what are you hearing about the whole process, jane? >> reporter: welt, as we speak -- well as we speak some of the members of parliament, including former prime minister ibrahim al jaffray, are starting to arrive. question is will they take a vote? it doesn't mean if they vote today or tomorrow, but if it goes beyond tomorrow that is beyond the constitutional deadline. they are expected to endorse this cabinet but haven't officially done so, jane. that means the kurdish members can't participate in the vote. that's what we're waiting for. the kurd in theory are on board, but they haven't gotten forward on the vote. >> what does the new government look like and do you think it will make a difference? >> reporter: well, it's an interesting one. it brings together a lot of political heavy weights who have played a role for

nouri al-maliki is in the running for vice president. one of the leaders is reported to have links to iran. >>> talks forming a unity government has come to a dead-end. it has been in locks for months accusing each other of fraud. al jazeera's investigative team has found boeing workers who have serious concerns about the safety of the 787 dreamliner aircraft. retired mechanics told al jazeera about their worries about quality control. the 787 dreamliner has been dogged with problems since being unveiled in 2003 and being grounded due to safety concerns last year. >> reporter: this is a boeing factory in the u.s. state of south carolina. the project is the 787 dreamliner, but some put little faith into the plane they build. >> would you fly in one? >> no. >> would you fly in one of these planes? >> no, not really. >> of 15 workers asked randomly, 10 said they would not fly on the dreamliner. an employee told us he had concerns about what he was saying. at his request we changed his voice. >> with all the problems reported on the 787, 90%

this is a government for which nouri al-maliki was forced out.o people see that this is the inclusive government that many of the factions who feel slightly dismarginalised have been waiting for. >> i think they are hoping that is the case. they are really giving a time limit on it. certainly the kurds said that they will join in and be part of the government, but for just three months, to see whether the demand they have have been agreed upon behind closed doors, whether they come to fruition, and the kurdish representatives said their demands were to do with oil, as jane said, and looked to see that the former oil minister has been demoted to education, and a new mp brought in, makhdi and is sympathetic to the kurds to have more of the gas and oil revenue. they want weapons for the peshmerga, more to come up from baghdad, and the salaries of the peshmerga fighters paid. one other area - i suppose the area that involves the sunni arabs, because those key groups want decentralization, money put into a local pot to make their own decisions. they h

>> the haider al abadi comes from the same party that produced nouri al-maliki party. t by most accounts there are psychological opposites. where nouri al-maliki was paranoid, insular, and always leary, haider al abadi i seems to be somebody who understands that you have to convince the kurds and the sunnies that there is something in this for them in cooperating with the government in baghdad, and taking up ministerial positions. but wanting it and trying are different than succeeding, and he has a difficult job ahead of him. >> to be sure. we're actually--i mentioned haider al abadi, because we're actually standing by. he may be the next speaker to address the u.n. security council. we'll stand by for that. we're listening to mr. wayne yi, the foreign minute storefe minister for china. and it's to the point where it's stressing the free syrian army will be trained. >> right. >> hang on a second, before we go to break, and before i get this question to you, let's see if haider al abadi is next. >> before we go to our next speaker, first i said earlier that we had 101 c

it took nouri al-maliki and made him the vice-president.e same bunchciy9 of people, te same ideas. it's a disaster. >> well, look, the jury is still out. i wouldn't rush to conclusions. initial signs, as you say, certainly aren't positive. but, look, the sunnies in iraq have to know -- have to have confidence that their future -- >> but they don't. >> is being looked after. >> if they don't have that confidence, but they don't have a government that gives them that confidence. they didn't have that confidence. we inept there last time. when they stood up and sew can stand down and now we're gifting involved in a civil war, that we clearly do not understand, and we don't have a government to back up anything if anything we do goes right, who is going to keep ill right? nobody. bashar al-assad on one side and nouri al-maliki and his cronies on the other. it's crazy. >> yes. i would say that -- again, don't want to paint too rosy a picture. >> that's good. >> i would say the two things that might be different this time than what happened after

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with the iranians, charlie, myself is they abandoned nouri al-maliki when they understood that he was not the solution to the islamic state problem, and i think they must be looking at bashar assad especially after the loss of the military bases i mentioned and wonder how long do we stay with this guy. but there was an alternative, abadi was put forth as an alternative. the opposition and elements of the community need to think about alternatives. >> charlie: do most people you know and respect share your views about the possibility and strength of the free syrian army? >> the people who follow this the most closely on the ground, who are looking at reports coming out of arabic social media sites, arabic media and talking to people on the ground agree that the free syrian army is still viable. i was in detroit last week at the islamic society of mark's annual meeting and there was a military analyst there, jeffrey white, very respected, he agreed that the free syrian army is viable and this is the best way forward given the growing exhaustion inside the ranks of the assad regime. >> c

>> the new government is somewhat better than the predes tesor nouri al-maliki -- predecessor nouri al-maliki, and being a government of unity, they have given high positions to sunnis. they haven't announced the minister for homeland security, or announced who the minister of defence is. and so far they have not given a lot to the sunni arabs. they hope you can use a shi'ite sectarian government. which is still what this is, which has an alliance with the kurds, to be more inclusive of the sunni arabs. that's a hard task. >> was the plan mapped out sufficient. >> i think it's a stop. there are a couple of white elephants in the room. it doesn't address the problem of syria and bashar al-assad. we need to have a hard conversation about what the world's view is, and where we go with that. we talk about iraq. iraq is important, but it is something that will prevent the contagion of i.s.i.s., rather than resolve the issue, and the importance of iraq at the moment is about political unity and uniting the sunny and sunni sects, to come together as iraqi people, it's important, about recognising th

it really comes -- he really comes from the same party as nouri al-maliki. ?> ryan question mark see nothing to suggest that he does not support their ideology. goingy, he is not one to -- going to want to repeat the same mistakes as nouri al-maliki. optimisticcautiously given intense u.s. engagement and bringing in some other partners that have influenced. it will be essential for that process. they will not get it done on their own. i would argue that this is complicated. you really can't have a sequence of events. you have to move on multiple fronts, militarily, politically at the same time. i have argued that military foster a going to political process, not hinder it. thesunnis have being in four front of begging for active military in event -- intervention. i have been talking to people who have been fighting isis since the spring. they are afraid they will lose territory unless we do more and quickly. that iraqi seem to be able to agree on at this point is that american military action is important. you have to galvanize the region . king abdullah had a

the bashar al-assad and nouri al-maliki. of themÁeffectively carried oat wars in the case of asad, brutal war against the soon citizen, and nouri al-maliki cut them out as well, and suppressed them, and the net effect was to create a sense that anybody is better than assad and better than maliki. so the key -- the key is to win these sunni tribes back so they'll take them on and not provide them a base from which to operate. we have to have them play part of the control and we need states like saudi arabia to play a reel as well, bus ultimately delegitimatizing isil is the debeing able to destroy them over time. >> it feels like sometimes we're operating without knowledge of history and sometimes maybe without even a rearview mirror, because anything was better than saddam hussein until we got what was create after that. then we armed the iraqis and their weapons went to isil, and now we are about to arm what fantastical group of moderate syrian rebels, a group which to my knowledge, after a lot of research, does not exist a

remember, nouri al-maliki is gone, right? a new group in there -- no. ell you that, they're trying to convince you of something by leading you astray. nouri al-maliki is no longer the leader but is the prim minister, and the rest of the people who are in are just juggled around. i it was maliki who pushed out the people who were supposed to be in. the sectarian divides are established within that government. they have not been broken, and this new government has changed not a single solitary thing, and anyone who tells you they have is either highly misinformed or lying to your face. >>> a teenager is dead-shot himself in a school bathroom. his parents say their son was a victim of bullying. they claim they told the school about it more than once. and now we're hearing from school officials on this we'll get a live report next. >>> bullies won. that from the mother of a 14-year-old boy in florida. a boy who killed himself at school. here he is. his name is lamar4j@ñ hawkings. his parent says health problems made him a small guy for his age. they say othe

the previous governor, nouri al-maliki, is involved, and the posts have not been decided. nouri al-maliki is the deputy prime minister right now. we don't know who the minister of defence is, who the minister of interior is. until we see how the dust settles on the iraqi government, we are not going to now how things will be built up internally to fight the threat. >> we'll take orders, coordinating the additional soldiers from the united states, they'll be embedded to help with air strikes, we have to make sure they are aligned. >> they need more than training and equipment, they need people. so perhaps they can get other moderat moderates. i don't know how they'll take them off line, from a battle, and train them. >> how do you vet them and track them down. >> we will hand them equipment and a lot will be complex, it's not just fire and forget. >> a few months ago many americans never heard of the islamic state group, and jonathan betz has been following their advance across syria and iraq, and he joins us with more. >> it has been lightening fast, launched 10 years ago,

of the problems how that became what you are talking about is because of former prime minister nouri al-maliki, and now there's word he may be vice president in the new government. is that encouraging? >> i think that the problem is larger than nouri al-maliki. perversely, having him in the government may be the safe place for him. we want him to be aboveboard if you will, and in public view, not out hiding some place. i'm relatively sanguine when he's in the government. it allows everyone else to keep an eye on him. the arab league started making noises about getting involved and aggressive. the president addressed that need yesterday. let's listen to him. >> i think that it is absolutely true that we'll need sunni states to step up, not just saudi arabia, but partners like jordan, united arab emirates, turkey - they need to be involved. this is their neighbourhood. the dangers that are posed are more directed at them right now than they are us. and the good news is, i think, for the perhaps first time you have absolute clarity that the problem for sunni states in the region, many of whom are

. >> pelley: nouri al maliki was the elected prime minister. he didn't want the u.s. troops.udge against the sunni branch of the faith. he'd been a thorn in america's side for eight years. president bush, in an off-camera conversation with us in 2007 said, “that maliki is a son of a bitch, but we have to deal with him.” >> panetta: prime minister maliki, who had the opportunity to kind of hold all of this together, just turned on the sunnis, fed into the historical sectarian divisions that have marred that country for centuries, and basically undercut and undermined the security force in iraq and created, i think, the very ingredients that led to what we see today in iraq. >> pelley: maliki, in your estimation, dismantled what weilt? took the sunni military officers out and replaced them with shias? >> panetta: we gave them a chance. i mean, you know, nobody can guarantee that iraq would be able to go in the right direction. but we gave them a chance. we gave them the tools. but instead, he turned to vengeance. and vengeance never pays off. >> pelley: but it paid off for isis

he's trying to heal the sunni-shia divide that of course was caused by his predecessor nouri al maliki. what does haider al abadi need to do to bring sunnis into the political sphere and make them feel that they are part of the new iraq? of course we heard in that interview the defense and interior are open. he said in that interview that a sunni would take one of those posts. he didn't specify which one it was. but does he have to go -- does he have to move beyond that? just that political effort there, do you think. has enough been done so far? >> no, enough hasn't been done. i think ultimately if you're going to bring the sunnis into the process what you have to do is give them some stake in the security of the country. you need to give them either an flrn ministry or you need to give them senior command positions within the army. one of the biggest problems of course is that half of the best sunni commanders from the old iraqi army are now fighting alongside isis, which makes this process a lot more difficult. now, ultimately, if the sunnis are going to feel part of a united iraq,

the guy who is in charge is from the same party as nouri al-maliki, the previous prime minister. all those posts have not been decided yet. nouri al-maliki is a deputy prime minister now. we don't know who the minister of defense or the minister of interior is, until we see how the dust settles on the iraqi government we don't know how it's built up internally to fight this threat. >> mike we have to rely on a government that hasn't quite been built yet it sounds like. >> yes, and from the military perspective they're going to take orders from the government that's how we would expect it to go coordinating these additional soldiers from the united states they're going to be embedded with that military to help with any air strikes. we have got to make sure they're both in line. >> what is the big challenge that the u.s. military faces? >> the strong tenet, they have been attritted down for past few years as well. perhaps they could get motors t- moderates to join. but training them -- >> how you vet them how you track them down. >> and we're going to hand them equipment and a lot o

it's clearly an embarrassment for the government of prime minister nouri al-maliki. it's more proof that the maliki government has been unable to take back iraq's second largest city or any territory from sunni insurgents. >> what does it mean to millions of syrians and iraqis in isil-occupied territory to be under the newly claimed leadership of a man who claims to be a caliph. there has not been a caliph for nearly a century. what does it mean for al baghdadi to claim that title. joining me, my guests. let me start with you. from the time the united states forces let him go until last friday do we know anything about where he's been, what he's done, his m.o. or how you enup in this position? >> we know very little about where he was except to assume, i think it's a safe assumption that he was always in iraq, and then he was rebuilding the movement, which threatened to fall apart when zarkawi, his meant for-predecessor was killed in 2006-07. there he was. i think he had to rebuild. he has a reputation as being good security, good at military planning, strategic plan

a lot of faces we will have seen before, and one, prime minister nouri al-maliki is tipped to come back as vice president. there was a reshuffle on some of the other cabinet posts. what they're trying to do now is to make both the sunnies and kurds happy. the sunni team still a lot of demands there. but all odds are that a government will be formed according to political sources. it won't necessarily be this evening. they're predicting if not this evening then tomorrow still keeping that constitutional deadline. >> people have been killed in an attack by islamic state fighters. about 70 kilometers north of baghdad. the bomber exploded a vehicle during the meeting of a sunni tribe which is back in the government. the counsels one of several in that area where the islamic group has seized control. >>> tribesmen in yemen have attacked the country's main oil pipeline. it happened as tension in sanaa has increased. we're joined live now from the capitol. that is an expensive target and set back. >> reporter: it is. it is the lifeline to the yemeni economy. the province why most o where most

that was a necessary pre-condition, to move nouri al-maliki. >> i think it's a shift, but it's not nominal. i think haider al abadi is a different politician and leader than his predecessor, but what moved the saudis to move with iraqi closely is the threat of isis that they have tens of thousands of people inside saudi arabia who could turn against the house, and that makes the threat existential to the saudis. >> on the last edition of this program it was noted that germany for the first time since the second world war, is aiding a country outside of its borders militarily aiding one side in a military conflict. this is a big deal. it's the peshmerga. it's the kurdish army. does that complicate the future pick of iraq? >> kurds has been a hot topic in iraq and for the irans as well as the syrians. i don't want to say--look, the kurds have been a huge partner for the united states and the iraqi government. there has been a shift in attitude were baghdad to the kurds given the threat posed by isis. there has been a conflicting relationship between the two sides for a long time, but give th

to provide support, and to put political pressure on the prime minister nouri al-maliki to include the sunnis inside the iraqi government and inside leadership positions in the iraqi army. the failure to keep american influence in rick was a precipitating event leading to disaster. as our reporter, josh rushing, a former marine reported, while we ground. we have about 1600 of the so-called advisors, military people. you said we don't need 1600, you said 10 to 15,000 is what you are looking at. this is so politically sensitive, you have been there and done this in iraq. help americans understand what is not getting done with the 1600 service personnel that requires 10,000-15,000. >> so what you'd really like to have is an american special forces team, which is equivalent, an advisor team, tam that are trained in iraq and afghanistan, in my last job in the army, embedded in an iraqi battalion. the 12 americans would provide air support, call in air planes, would help adjust art illy and provide access to american intelligence resources to help the iraqi military understand where the enem

same time the president said there must be a new government in iraq to replace the government of nouri al-malikid if they want more ic

i wanted to ask, neri al-maliki -- nouri al-maliki -- if you had the opportunity to choose, to go back in time, what would be better for iraq? al-am hussein or nouri maliki? guest: put me on the spot, i think maliki is better than saddam. sunni, butein was a he defined himself as a secular baathist. of the mostruly one evil figures in the 21st century. he brutalized the iraqi people. he was a threat to his neighbors and to the united states. -- as as malik he was maliki was -- i use the phrase she is saddam because of his -- the phrase his saddam because of consolidation of power, but it did not reach the level of her barbarity of -- of pure barbarity of saddam. host: you can find his latest piece at thedailybeast.com. guest: thank you for having me. host: up next in our weekly "your money segment, we look at the portion of the budget that looks -- that deals with counterterrorism operations. we will be right back. >> high, we are excited to announce that it is launch week for the 11th annual student cam -- hi, we are excited to announce that it is launch week for the 11th annual stude

we certainly were aware of the increasing degree to which nouri al maliki was governing in a sectarian way and sewing the seeds. i think that took us by surprise. i don't think we can lay that at the feet of the intelligence community, though. they gave us some of the warning signs. it's a bit like trying to predict an earthquake. you can see pressure building up on the fault lines, but knowing when it's going to materialize, how quickly it can disintegrate, those things are very hard to predict, and our intelligence agencies, as good as they are, don't have a crystal ball any better than the rest of us. >> when you see a group so filled with hate who would do something like this now three times, not to mention all of the others that we haven't seen that they have executed in mass executions throughout the region, what should we be concerned about in terms of what we know? i mean, is our intelligence good in terms of what we know on isis and the threat to the u.s.? >> it shows how barbaric they are and there is no negotiating with someone who is going to excused journalists and aide wo

. >> pelley: but the elected iraqi prime minister, nouri al-maliki, didn't want the u.s. force. as iraq moved on, on its own, civil war broke out in syria. the u.s. stayed largely on the sidelines but panetta says the national security team urged the president to do more. >> the real key was how can we develop a leadership group among the opposition that would be able to take control, and my view was to have leverage to do that we would have to provide the weapons and the training in order for them to really be willing to work with us in that effort. >> pelley: but with virtually his entire national security team unanimous on this, that's not the decision the president made. >> i think the president's concern-- and i understand it-- was that he had a fear that if we started providing weapons, we wouldn't know where those weapons would wind up. my view was you have to begin somewhere. >> pelley: sunday, on "60 minutes," we'll report from iraq and syria on isis what it is, what it wants, and how to defeat it. the 47th season premiere of "60 minutes" this sunday after football. the

after 2011, the leadership of the iraqi army was replaced by basically a nouri al maliki shia cronies. and the leadership was gone. when you've got poor leadership, i don't care how good your troops are, you're going to fail. >> i want to go back to just the kind of blanket isis, their name. islamic state of iraq and syria. they want to go by islamic state -- so that first word, islamic. you know, what does religion play into it? we're hearing from other muslims saying this is not what our religion is all about. >> sure. the vast majority of muslims don't agree with isis' ideology whatsoever. but for isis themselves, they are, in fact, motivated by a kind of religious inspiration. they feel that they're doing god's work. so we don't have to agree with it. but i think it's very important to recognize that they believe that they're observing a very literalist interpretation of god's law. and they're also in a way trying to do a kind of historical reena reenactment, going back to the seventh century and kind of portraying themselves as successors to the prophet and his companions. so you

going to take time to try and regain the trust of the sunnis and try and undo what prime minister nouri al maliki and shia government and security forces have done over the past few years to try and bring back the sunnis who are key. one expert i was speaking to earlier, randi, said unless you win the sunnis of iraq the battle here against isis is not going to -- it's going to take a very long time. >> jim sciutto, national security correspondent, still with us by phone. jim, so no reaction there from the administration yet. when they do react, what do you expect? how will this go? >> i think they will express solidarity to the british government. to this point, they have been leaving the comment to the u.k. for understandable reasons. this is not an american. but you should expect expressions of support, and echoing david cameron's tweet a few moments ago, saying this is pure evil that we're seeing here. and that echos some of the rhetoric you have heard from the administration. just another thought in light of point others have made in the last couple minutes. this is, of course, a threat to th

none of them like the nouri al-maliki government. they'll give the haider al-abadi government a chance to demonstrate a commitment to a more inclusive form of government. the region why the states are cautious in terms of how much they'll publicly acknowledge of their support for iran. >> given that kind of, say, discomfort that exists among the nations in the region, one surprising development was that merch officials cautioned that air strikes have to be approved by the new government in iraq, as well as by the u.s. how much of a challenge will it be for what is still a shia-dominated iraqi government to work with the sunni countries and vice versa. >> the other interesting aspect is there appears to be conversations with some of the regional states and iraq itself, it is an encouraging sign. we'll see. i mean, we are focussed on air strikes. there's a lot more to the coalition if the objective is ultimately to end the threat that the islamic state poses to the region, and beyond. there's a lot more to this. in fact, the more decisi

nouri al-maliki called wha are what he called terrorist were among the demonstrators. >> reporter: theroot cause in iraq has to be addressed. that's really has to be developed. you new prime ministerialed a bayy said they'll have to move in closer. first to trust the new central government. >> reporter: the i.s. reach is not only in iraq and extends well into syria. international powers, particularly the u.s. have called to come up with ideas to deal with the group in the future. >> germany said it will join the fight against the islamic state group but will not participate in airstrikes. germany is providing military aid to kurdish fighters. as we mentioned secretary of state john kerry was in occur at this hoping to fight the islamic state group but the turkish government has not embraced plans by the united states and middle east nations to defeat the group. what's going on here? nick schifrin joins us now from jerusalem. how important would turkey be to this coalition? >> well, it's hugely important. today's visit to turkey had a military aspect. we need to remind everyone that thi

great deal of hope that new iraqi government will be much more inclusive than the government of nouri al-maliki. the next question is who will be named to secretary of defense and interior minister, two very important posts. >> the network previously intentioned between afghanistan and pakistan, and so entrenched there that they could launch a conspiracy and attacks on the homeland. that no longer exists. that network is gone. what they've done, like other al-qaeda affiliates, they've fled to other places, hoping to hide from the united states because of the pressure there, and try to organize against western interests and possibly the western homeland. >> while strikes against the khorasan group and syria, is the white house distinction fair? >> reporter: well, david, you know, khorasan and al nusra are affiliates of al-qaeda. al nusra came into syria to fight against president assad while khorasan, a smaller subset, was sent there by the leader of al-qaeda with the purpose of planning attacks against america. now here is what is worrisome for the west. some members of khorasan have been affil

former prime minister nouri al- maliki will be one of the country's three vice presidents. the united states is closer to identifying the man who beheaded american journalist james foley. american and british investigators have examined the "isis" video in which foley was displayed, both before and after his brutal execution. two american law enforcement officials say they are pretty certain they know the identity of the actual killer. he's believed to be connected with a group of extremists based in london. there is still no *official confirmation of who killed foley. record rainfall flooded parts of the southwest. a woman whose car was swept off the road in tucson, drowned as rescue workers were trying to reach her. yesterday was the single rainiest day in history for phoenix. arizona governor jan brewer has declared a statewide emergency. hundreds of kids were also trapped in an elementary school in nevada when a river overflowed. torrential rain also shut down a 20-mile stretch of interstate 15, near las vegas ... leaving drivers stranded. >> it's unfortunate that peopl

. >>> you join us for the al jazeera nouri al-maliki, i'm david foster, and this is some of what we are looking at in the next 60 minutes. police in hong kong used tear gas on pro-democracy protesters in the city's financial sector. coalition air strikes target i.s.i.l. fighters surrounding a kurdish town in syria. >>> the violence in yemen could threaten global security as houthi rebels occupy large parts of the capital. >>> 30 hikers feared dead in japan after being found near the peak of an erupting volcano. >>> police in hong kong fired tear gas at thousands of pro-democracy demonstrators, but they have not been able to stop the protests. now going on for a week. the activists say they are furious at the chinese government's decision to handpick candidates for the 2017 elections. beijing condemned the demonstration and caused them illegal. kayla mcbride has more from hong kong. >>> as more police reinforcements arrived it was cheer they were hopelessly outnumbered by demonstrators. a crush of people tried to find their way back into the site blocked. umbrellas went up to block the p

could you lating, the idea that this government does not behave in the aim sectarian way that the nouri al-maliki government behaved, is that the tw two-prong strategy of not degrading but destroying isil in iraq. >> this is something that we can do and virtually no one else can do. the fact that we're reaching out to get a coalition to help in this is very good, and particularly in a region to try to get the regional players on board because frankly that wa was--it's essential. it's something that we didn't particularly do well during the last war, and it's really critical now. but air power can be very effective in blunting the attacks. it can be extremely helpful in support of activities that may go on on the ground to push these guys back, and i would expect that to be an objective here. but in and of itself it is not likely to destroy isil. >> again that was retired admiral bill fallon. as they carry out a broader campaign in isil, al jazeera's sue torton has more from erbil. >> i have just came across the main border crossing between syria and mosul city. they say they do not have the an mu

those in the anbar province, they have become disenchanted, especially after several years of nouri al-maliki's rule. jordan could play a role in getting the sunni tribes on board with the u.s., which said any effort to weaken or crackdown on the islamic state group should include strengthening the disenchanted and disappointed sunni tribes. perhaps a political role for jordan, maybe an intelligence and a military role because of where it's situated on the border with syria and iraq. >>> while president obama says he has the authority to take action against the islamic state group, without congressional approval. he met with leaders in washington to discuss plans about confronting the rebels. patty culhane has more on what the president's plans may look like. >> reporter: it's a setting and time meant to convey urgency it the nation, a prime-time speech from the white house urging the country to pay attention. what the president says matters. we know the basic message when it comes to his plans for the islamic state group. >> the next phase is to start going on some offense. >> reporter: the pr

hundreds of protesters were killed, prime minister nouri al-maliki maintained what he called terrorists were among the demonstrators. but within months the islamic state emerged in those very same towns and cities. >> the root problem in iraq is the issue that has to be addressed. with the previous iraqi government under prime minister al maliki the sunnies and the kurds felt disenfranchised, and fact they were. prime minister al abadi now says with the new government it will be inclusive. this will be a challenge to get the sunni tribes in iraq first to trust the new central government. >> reporter: but the i.s. reach is not limited to iraq and now extends into syria. for now it appears the international powers have failed to come up with a plan to combat the group's presence in syria. many fear dealing with the i.s. group solely from a military perspective will only create similar movements in the future. al jazeera. >> germany said it will join the fight against the islamic state group but it will not participate in airstrikes. it is already providing military aid to kurdish fighters