so a month from nourks we can say, thinks ags are getting bet or things are getting worse. the frustration, is we have no measuring stick at all, really, other than people's impressions. >> other than surveys and data on the loans being made, the fed staff did work -- >> we woundn't run our business that way. survey data is useful. >> i was going to add the fed staff did work with the treasury to try to develop metrics for the t.a.r.p. program. there was progress made. your point is well taken. i have heard it many times. i will take this back to our staff and see if we can figure out some more useful metrics or ways of thinking about this problem. >> i think again, because of the consequence of my siting at the end, i can hear the same conversation over and over again. >> as you can imagine, i have heard it many times. >> i know. i think it would be useful for everybody if we were able to agree upon a set of metrics going forward. you mentioned something early this morning about the importance of withdrawing from this economy in what they creates jobs. i may be putting lan

so a month from nourks we can say, thinks ags are getting bet or things are getting worse. the frustration, is we have no measuring stick at all, really, other than people's impressions. >> other than surveys and data on the loans being made, the fed staff did work -- >> we woundn't run our business that way. survey data is useful. >> i was going to add the fed staff did work with the treasury to try to develop metrics for the t.a.r.p. program. there was progress made. your point is well taken. i have heard it many times. i will take this back to our staff and see if we can figure out some more useful metrics or ways of thinking about this problem. >> i think again, because of the consequence of my siting at the end, i can hear the same conversation over and over again. >> as you can imagine, i have heard it many times. >> i know. i think it would be useful for everybody if we were able to agree upon a set of metrics going forward. you mentioned something early this morning about the importance of withdrawing from this economy in what they creates jobs. i may be putting lan