our next speaker is hervÉ hoppenot who's president of novartis encology.and maybe you could talk about some specific demonstrations. >> yeah, i can do that. i wanted to make a point on, you know, the subject of the conference which is innovation and reimbursement system. and i think there is one aspect that was not touched. i mean, i agree with some of them, but there is one aspect that was not touched is realizing that the progress we make in medicine on the hiv is a very good example, in fact. the one you were speaking about earlier where there is sort of an asymmetric situation between where you informs and where you save. -- invest and where you save. most of the investment is viable costs, and most of the saving is fixed costs. i will take the example of cancer. my company, what i'm in charge of at novartis is the encology group, and today in the u.s. the american cancer society numbers show that 17% of the cost of cancer is coming from drugs. and 83% is coming from are hospitalization, everything you can think of. now, every time a new drug is introd