. >> guest: she was not exactly a novice, but a nymph probably of olympus. in earlier times the nymph knew how to speak. and she spoke with such grace that her words seemed always to new, never before spoken by any. but the goddess cursed her during one of her frequent fits of jealousy. and suffered the worst punishment, she was deprived of her own voice. ever since on able to speak, she can only repeat. nowadays that curse is looked at as a virtue. >> host: so that is one of the examples. i wanted to read just a quote that you pulled out from i don't know where about st. joseph and contraception. and it just let me read -- >> guest: it's from spanish. it is an old -- >> host: i had never heard, here's how it goes. st. joseph -- this is about contraception. st. joseph, you who had without doing naked so that i do without having. >> guest: in the spanish this is [speaking in spanish] that's it, that's it. >> host: the irony, the joke, it's great. >> guest: in english, how was it in english -- >> host: st. joseph, you who had without doing, make it so that i d

i am not a novice to this. a group in the middle east with my dad who was in the oil industry. it has been an interest items for me for decades. it is therefore very important that we as a navy do everything that we can possibly do to reduce the expense and reduce the reliance, particularly on fossil fuels. the challenge that we have as a navy, right now we are a navy of 283 ships which is where we are. if you look at the navy that will exist in 2020, it is 215 of 283 will be around in 2020. it will be around for awhile. what we have done in the last year is we have taken an approach that looks at the the old and the new. what can we be doing to bring energy costs down on the old stuff and then as we look to the future and we make procurement decisions, we will make them not on how much the item costs but rather, on what the cost to on will be over time. i think we have to do that. it is not just on the airplane, ships an, and submarines. it has to be on the large shore infrastructure we have in the navy. our bases, the communities where people live. and the same applies there.

and i'm not a novice to this. i grew up in the middle east, with my dad, who is in the oil industry, and so, it has been an interest item for me, for decades. and, it is, therefore, very important that we, as a navy, do everything that we can possibly do, to radio dues the expense and reduce the reliance, particularly on fossil fuels. the challenge that we have, as a navy, right now, we are a navy of 283 ships. which is -- is where we are, but if you look at the navy that will exist in 2020, it is 215 of those 283 ships will be around in 2020, so it is not as if you can say, okay. we are all going to get real energy efficient, all the old stuff is gone. will be around for a long time. so what we have done the last year is we have taken an approach that looks at the old and the new, in other words, what can we be doing to bring energy costs down, on the old stuff, then as we look to the the future and we make procurement discussions, we'll make them not on how much the item costs, but, rather, on what the cost to o