novosibirsk, at the theater school, here oleg tobakov had already had success in pavlovich, this is anp with oleg pavlych. bakov , he was an absolute master in pedagogical activities, what are you doing, volodya, i ’m coming to some kind of door, i’m the door, stop, i say, why are you doing that? you open it, i say, how do you even remind me of an iceberg, you have something small on top, i don’t see it inside, where you can turn it over. this is all, and i opened it, a lot, turn it back, so he , like kaisberg, twisted me back and forth, pushed me down, in general, on the contrary, he wanted, he wanted to bring this lower part up, well, in general , a teacher, to disturb nature, physics, and this is very correct, from what moment did you understand that you somehow, well, no more, no less, or just sunk and floated up, no, well, here i am... i realized that it needs to unfold itself all the time, look, this is how it turns out, because cinema requires very detailed work, in fact, when you are drowned, when everything is big inside, a dream, suffering , it is in the depths, in the theate