chairman. >> that's general to nppd. that's general to nppd. i don't know the specifics with her individual work. >> well, if you could just supply to the committee, because i know the chairman wants to get on with the second panel of the workers that you have of now the 40% where they are located within the department. thank you. >> okay. i believe the gentlelady from new york wants to recapture the time that she gave back. >> just a minute of it, mr. chairman. i appreciate your indulgence. my question is directed to ms. anderson and mr. wulf. we've had a lot of discussion what went wrong. i want to focus in on the employees for a minute, because certainly with the investigations going on, with all that has been uncovered, there has to be some level of disruption, some level of not knowing where they stand. what is the relationship now with the employees? how were the employees getting through this? what types of things have been put in place to give some level of reassurance to people that first of all they're valued, but second of all that t

in the iscd internal memorandum extend to other nppd components? >> the nppd front office as well as the infrastructure protection front office stand fully behind the iscd director and deputy director. we have provided them with human kcap tall support in order to t be able to realign the positions and the people in the organization to ensure the best possible match of requirements and qualifications. we have overcome the restrictions that existed from dhs overall about whether or not there could be training officers hired within the office. we have regular meetings with the leadership of the office in order to ascertain both where progress is on the plan of action and whether there are obstacles identified that leadership in nppd can overcome and if necessary, go to the secretary of homeland security to overcome those obstacles should they exist. >> in light of the detailed failings of the program and especially in light of the managerial deficiencies, is it your opinion that the program should be reauthorized carte blanche for seven years without

i have consistently pledge the union's cooperation at many nppd national level meetings to include one meeting with director anderson in september of 2011. at all meetings i indicated the union's readiness for perceived roadblocks in support of the cfats program. on january 9th, 2012, after the negative news article, i met with director anderson in the presence of assistant secretary todd kyle and senior union leadership. i reiterate that successful accomplishment of the cfats mission is the union's first priority and we would expect an opportunity to get meaningful input there would be no union roadblock to implementation of critical homeland security policy and procedures. i reject the assertion the workforce is on qualified. most have extensive background in law enforcement, military, regulatory authority and academics. the chemical security work force is dedicated and all came on board with the progress of building a new agency dedicated closing a potential gap in the nation's homeland security network stored with massive amounts of hazardous chemicals. i have been asked to advise

before joining nppd, mrs. a anderson served as a transportation secretary of administration for west michigan from november 2007 to july 2011 and she was the primary point of coordination and oversight transportation security matters in west michigan including implementation of all tsa security compliance programs in that region. mr. david wulf joined the department of homeland security in july of 2011 as the deputy director of the infrastructure security compliance division. within the office of infrastructure protection. he leads the national implementation of the chemical facility antiterrorism standards program to assess high risk chemical facilities, promote collaborative security planning and ensure that covered facilities meet risk based performance standards. mr. wulf also manages the efforts to implement a regulatory regime for immonium nitrate projects. serving among other rules as chief bureau of affairs and national explosives training and research. thank you all for being here. your full, written

i have probably been around longer than any of the nppd leadership at the inception of the cfats program in hiring the inspectors. we were originally detailed from the fps workforce. so i did attend that initial class one day of a week-long course for the initial group of inspectors. and i think that was the initial what can now be be looked at as a setback. because the focus was ultimately compliance and ultimately law enforceme enforcement. fps inspectors were lured away from their federal law enforcement careers with the promise, with the lure of a -- of building a new agency regulating chemical facilities. and unfortunately for those inspectors, the program was apparently misguided or labeled as misguided and changes occurred along the way. many fps inspectors came back. and the ones that could tolerate the loss of their federal law enforcement career stayed. and then we -- then there is the aspect of the management culture. it just seems to have changed several times over the years, the focus seems to have changed is what i'm told. >> so in your opinion, to what extent do the staffi

that is the nppd, national protection, i'm sorry, the national profession and division.un by a gentleman named rand bearse. look at efforts against chemical facilities assuring there are fences around and other security measures and also the cyber side of things. so that's one area. that group at the department of hem land security actually works very closely with the private sector as well as as with the department of defense. department of defense and nsa you have as a last questioner asked, there is a section there looking at issues the. with the department of justice you have the cybercrime division that looks at the criminal side of things. various other agencies have divisions that look at cybersecurity from their perspective. >> host: who are the experts in congress on this topic? >> guest: right now you have a few experts. on intelligence mike rogers and ruppersberger have taken a lead on what the nsa is doing. in the homeland security side you have several. lieberman-collins we mentioned earlier. house side, dan lundgren we mentioned. dan clark the ranking membe