npr is concerned about how much gitmo is costing?nd run for a liberal group that enjoys the largees of our government to put their agenda forward. the number that npr should really be concerned with is 435 million, $435 million is the amount of money that the u.s. government throws at public broadcasting every year. last year they threw them an extra 50 million so they could update. todd: the numbers are fascinating. i didn't realize some of the numbers you put out there, that was fascinating. jillian: your brother adam for folks at home who are watching and don't know, he ran down 84 flights that day on 9/11, we're taking a look at his picture right there on the screen and rather than running away from the building, he was seen outside tower 2 helping firemen direct new yorkers away from the disaster site when he could have easily run away. to be here with you and have this conversation today we thank you for that. we never forget any of of them. it's important that we have these conversations, especially when as we said at the top

david is a media correspondent for npr. >> what you saw him do was pave the way for fox news. was pave the way for somebody more conservative and more conspiracy minded, somebody like glen beck. >> rush is god. >> nicknamed ditto heads. because limbaugh said what h felts. awttracted 15.5 million listeners a week. he was the most listened to. >> they loved his fire and rhetorical fight. >> his critics have labeled him racist, and homophobic and pushing a us verse them mentality. >> we have a major immigration party that needs a permanent class of voters that wants the parade of illegal people, that are uneducated, they want them here. if any race of people should not have guilty about slavery is caucas caucasian. >> in 2012, he said this about a woman fighting for expanded access to birth control. >> it's means ys she is a slut right, she is a prostitute. she wants to be paid for sex is. >> president trump him the -- >> he is the greatest fighter that you will media, rush limba limbaugh, thank you. >> rush was special. he was a very special guy. and you said irreplaceable it's

npr has this headline. civil rights leaders push biden for racial justice fight for attorney general nominee. can you explain. guest: again, i think this is incredibly -- an incredibly important job. our nation's highest law enforcement agency there are so money law enforcement agencies at the local and state level that really model their work around what the justice department is doing or not doing. i think it will be very critical as we close down 2020, a year in which we lived through a national reckoning with our long history of racism and police violence to put in place in attorney general who will on day one understands what needs to be done to carry forth that work. to carry forth that commitment to confronting and addressing racial violence and police violence which have been issues that dad -- animated the protest we've seen across the country over the past year. we have seen people black, white, brown. multigenerational protests around the idea that now is the time to figure out once and for all b

let's begin with the media respondent for npr news. he's been all over this story. and dana young. david, why was lou dobbs canceled on friday night? >> well, it wasn't ratings. i mean, the man was among the leaders for fox business network. you know, fox officials are telling me, i'm sure they are telling you, look, we announced in october, we were going to make a bunch of changes. this is one of them. it happened very abruptly. not a seamless handoff. you saw a guest host sitting in saying you would see lou tomorrow. and you didn't see lou again. it happened after this $2.7 billion lawsuit, right? dobbs, it seems to me, was in some ways the avatar for this c scandal for fox news. viewers would have been hard pressed to make any sense of his fact check. in addition, this reminds me a bit of the way scandals were handled at rupert murdoch's news tabloids in london about a decade ago where what they would do is throw somebody over the side and see if that was enough. it seems this is an effort to cauterize the wound, to distance fox from this feverish conspiracy theory with conseque

joining us is npr television critic eric duggins, also an msnbc media analyst.ou. >> thanks for having me, great to see you. >> i'm a little torn on this because i would rather be talking to you about "wandavision," but we'll have that conversation offline. >> i'll hold you to that. >> we'll discuss that. the other reason is because i want your sense of the impact of all this. i'm one of those people in cable who doesn't really give a damn about fox news, i don't care what they do. i care about what nbc does, because they're the organization that's doing journalism i support and believe in. but i know there's an impact larger than just this massive lawsuit. what's the bigger point about what's happening with fox news and what's happening with newsmax beyond just those two companies? >> there are so many things to talk about. first of all, fox news over its life has propagandized their audience, groomed them to believe that the way that fox news and fox business and these conservative oriented news outlets, the way they present the world is the way the world is.

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according to an npr analysis, of those charged, nearly 1 in 5 reportedly had a military background. among them, ryan nichols, seen here at the riot. the former marine once made national headlin rcuin dogs t ilorence battered the state in 2018. >> two volunteers would get them out, opening the gate. those dogs rescued. >> reporter: federal prosecutors say nichols and his friend, alex harkrider, stormed the capitol on january 6th. according to the fbi, nichols can be seen on video yelling, if you have a weapon, you need to get your weapon. and also, this is the second revolution right here, folks, this is not a peaceful protest. both men are under arrest and in jail. among the charges, conspiracy, unlawful entry, and assaulting a federal officer. larry randle brock jr. is also a veteran. the former air force officer seen here on the senate floor in a military-style helmet and tactical vest, holding plastic zip tie handcuffs. brock is charged with entering a restricted area and disorderly conduct. he was released to home confinement pending trial. >> we have a number of people that hav

and tamara keith of npr. of npr, thanks so much for being here, ladies.start with you. as the report laid out the gop war continues to deepen. this weekend former president trump is going to be delivering his first speech since leaving the white house. what do you think-- how do you think the decisions that he makes going forward in this speech are going to impact the gop on a national and local level. >> well, that's a really good question. and i think none of us are will know the impact that donald trump is going to continue to have. it's only been a month since joe biden has been president. and obviously so much of the focus of the first month of the biden administration was on something that was very personal which of course was impeachment. the personal to donald trump and personal to those who support him. what does he do in the weeks and months leang up to the mid-term election? he's got a lot of money in the bank. but as a candidate, he didn't intend t spend much of that money on anything but his own candidacy. he is not particularly interested in

claire mccaskill, former republican congressman of florida, carlos curbelo, and audie cornish, host of npr's "all things considered." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> and a good sunday morning. during the 2016 presidential campaign, donald trump made what may be the most accurate public statement he's ever made. >> i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? it's like incredible. >> yesterday, senate republicans largely proved him right. 43 of 50 republican senators voted to absolve mr. trump of responsibility for the deadly january 6th riot at the capitol. the final tally was 57-43 to convict, ten votes shy of the 67 needed. this was after democrats read into the record congresswoman jaime herrera beutler's statement that president trump sided with the mob in a call to kevin mccarthy as the riot was under way. it was after democrats made the but-for case, that but for president trump, there w

npr published messages between one medical doctors and staff who were expressing concern about young,low-risk patients receiving vaccines at one indications. tonight i spoke to david magnus, the director of stanford center for bioethical about inequities built into the system. >> from an ethical point of view of not just looking at what the regulations say, but what are the factors and the ways in which structural racism is actually built into the way the distribution channels are being set up. >> reporter: providers obviously have a responsibility to follow the eligibility requirements and vaccine rules, but how much personal responsibility do we all have to make sure that we're also part of the equity solution when it comes to vaccines? >> i think that's really the key issue, and that means for some individuals, if they know that they can wait, they probably should wait. >> reporter: one medical sent a lengthy statement to abc that says in part any assertions that we broadly and knowingly disregard eligibility guidelines are in direct contradicti ou a h miti have numerous checkpoint

npr published messages between one medical doctors and staff who were expressing concern about young, low-risk patients receiving vaccines at one mellow indications. tonight i spoke to david magnus, the director of stanford center for bioethical about inequities built into the system. >> from an ethical point of view of not just looking at what the regulations say, but what are the factors and the ways in which structural racism is actually built into the way the distribution channels are being set up. >> reporter: providers obviously have a responsibility to follow the eligibility requirements and vaccine rules, but how much personal responsibility do we all have to make sure that we're also part of the equity solution when it comes to vaccines? >> i think that's really the key issue, and that means for some individuals, if they know that they can wait, they probably should wait. >> reporter: one medical sent a lengthy statement to abc that says in part any assertions that we broadly and knowingly disregard eligibility guidelines are in direct contradiction to our actual approach to

former resident at the university of chicago institute of politics and a roundtable regular on the nprews programs. thank you. >> thank you for having me to make i'm excited to get the panel started. >> as the associate research scholar at columbia university and author conservative media and the transmission of american politics she's working on a new book about pitchfork politics and an esoteric political history and also calls for her opinion. >> rick is the author for books on american and conservativism. and the invisible range and reagan land of hearing in "the new york times", the nation and the new republic. welcome. >> it's a pleasure and it's an honor. >> professor of government at the university of texas at austin focusing on the conditions allowing marginalized groups to function in a more democratic system and those that are conservative but not republican the paradox of african-americans. welcome tosha. >> thank you. >> we are grateful to all of you for joining us i turn it over to you. >> i think the best way to start is at the beginning i'm interested to hear from all o

host: that brings up a story that was on npr this week when they were talking about companies not only producing vaccines but trying to come up with booster shots. that is something you were just mentioning. do you think we will get to the point where a booster shot for covid-19 will be similar to what we are getting as a flu shot? you have to take one every year to make sure we are protected? guest: i think that's very likely. i would love for covid to disappear. clearly, it has thrown us curveballs, these variants. we don't know how long the vaccine will work against the current variant. we may be in a flulike situation where every year or less often, we will need to get boosters, probably tweaked to make them more active against these new variants. host: sandra is calling from maryland. sandra has already been vaccinated. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i got the infusion the other day as a result of the positive test. you mentioned the antibodies are not very effective or as effective in fighting the variance. are they at least effective as any of the other vacc

. >> last, we will go to tamra, npr. >> thank you very much. so i have a few questions about this new test that is being pushed out. at $30 a pop, that sounds cheap compared to the tests available now, but it is also a lot of money if you are thinking, i don't know, am i going to test my kindergartner every day, once a week? how do you really see this working? who would be paying for these tests? how does a $30 test fit with your equity goals? and are there even going to be enough of it to be used for screening? andy: thanks. so, look, the purpose of today's announcement, which is very exciting, is to move to mass production and scale. an obviously, the unit costs will come down only when we can get to the mass production and scale. so there is a chicken and egg problem that we have taken a step to solve today by creating a mass production so we will have tens of millions of these tests out there. secondly, we know there are efforts to create even lower cost and more innovative approaches and we welcome those. the programs that drive innovation

disagreement on particular recommendations, but i do think it's a very helpful contribution to the upcoming npr and i hope that folks in the new administration will read it and pull some new creative ideas from it. thanks. >> thanks, michelle. are. >> thanks, michelle and thank you, george. so we're coming up close to q&a time here, but i thought i would take the opportunity to ask you both a question hopefully and have an interesting discussion. you know, as george mentioned, one of the highlights of the report here is its focus on managing the threat of escalation from crisis or conflict in either region of the world. you know, michelle, i know you've written and spent a lot of time thinking about the challenge that china presents in the pacific to the united states and its allies and, you know, george, you and i have talked a lot about and written about how that looks in europe as well as in asia in our report, and i'm wondering if each of you could expand a little bit on your remarks with respect to asia and europe. kwhees the right combination of capabilities and how much is alliance cohes

the northwestern medical school professor called mick mccoy told npr this week that you are parents andated until we achieve herd a immunity. mccoy warned "you pose a clear and present danger to your parents despite the vaccine. dr. mark steagall is a fox news medical contributor. >> sean: good to see >> good to see you. when you move the goalposts, hope is replaced with despair and public health need to be consistent for a lot of emphasis were put on these vaccines which is why i'm really glad to see dr. mitch katz of most people, the ceo of health and hospitals of failing new york city's same monday the press conference, hey, is a vaccine, i'm about it. excited it works, and it's the way back. he said it's the way back. he also said, my 98-year-old father, and my 93-year-old mother are now going to take visitors from their children. i was so happy to see that, especially when you consider what is public health anyway? it's an overall cost, isn't it? there is a big study out of boston in september that said that 25% of americans are suffering from clinical depression. that means that 7

moderator: all right, first up we will go to tamara keith with npr. reporter: thank you so much for taking my question. i appreciate it. and the question that i have is for carole johnson. as you say, there is this really big problem of a shortage of testing, and many experts say that the u.s. needs a lot of very inexpensive paper-strip antigen tests to finally provide enough testing. you've mentioned this money, but what else is being done? what are the steps that need to be taken to finally make that happen and, you know, make it so that schools potentially really could do screening testing? ms. johnson: yeah, thank you so much for that question. what we're doing today is trying to take what steps we can with the available resources that we have. but what we need to do is have the resources that are in the american rescue plan to really give us the opportunity to scale testing at the way we need to do it, and to build up not only the testing itself and the manufacturing capacity for the testing, but the testing services that make sure that testing i

dan: our viewers and listeners who have been listening to npr this past week or who have read a profile of you in "the new yorker" we'll know how active you were an encouraging the party switching or the ballot switching that tim alluded to. republicans voting for biden. why did you do that? sarah: oh, boy, no one had asked to that in a while. dan: [laughter] sarah: from the moment that donald trump showed up on the political scene, and i mean that an the 2014, 'barack obama is a muslim'sense, i have been against him, revolted by him. i was absolutely stunned when he became the nominee of the republican party. it showed me how out of touch i was with what the party was interested in and i felt like he was an existential threat to our democracy to decency, to the truth. i have never seen somebody lies so much and so cavalierly and i think that somebody with his business history and his history, whether it is assaulting women or the way he talks about people, or muslims. this was a very clear-cut case of someone who was unfit to hold the office of president of the united states and i have

joining us, john harwood and aisha roscoe, a white house correspondent for npr. john, i want to put on the screen this picture, this remarkable picture of people actually having a conversation, a civil conversation about substantive issues. president biden with nine in-person republicans, one on zoom, and when i saw this, john, i realized what you had been trying to tell me patiently about your reporting and your analysis. that sometimes bipartisan is the way you go about doing things, even if what you ultimately agree on isn't 100% unanimous. so that picture is important. that picture is very important. even if the white house decides to go this alone, explain. >> well, look, that picture that you referred to amounts to a victory for both those republican senators and for joe biden. they are both displaying that we can have a congenial conversation. however, it has not so far changed any of the fundamental dynamics of this investigation. it would be one thing if you had an offer that went one-third of the way to the new president's total from, say, the republica

joining us now is the president and founder of futuro media group from npr and author of identify oncealso astrid sinta. talk about to me what it like to go through. can you give me one concrete example of how this bill would make a difference for d.r.e.a.m.ers? >> there would be a line. this would have some ability to have a clear form of being able to adjust our status. right now we're stuck in an eternal limbo. >> what are some of the elements of a line? are we talking about meetings, regular meetings, fees to pay, forms to fill out, questions to answer? what happens in this line? >> i don't think i've ever met an immigrant who is against any of the things you just mentioned. it's just that they don't exist. people assume this mythical line that exists of us just going to the post office and saying we want to become an american citizen. that doesn't exist. there's thousands of categories of immigrants and if there were to be a mythical line that i would love to make up, it would just simply be the opportunity to apply for adjustment of status, to be able to submit an application and

npr shows that vaccination sites are missing in black and hispanic neighborhoods across the south ofd states. but not just a southern problem. 23 urban counties where blacks were less likely than whites to be within one mile of potential vaccination site. new york is one of the urban areas taking on this lack of access. this week officials opened a mass vaccination site in the bronx. most of the borough is black and hispanic. >> reporter: it's a busy day at yankee stadium, folks lining up all day, came hoping to get appointment for vaccination. longer line, hundreds, here earlier today who had appointments for vaccination. 15,000 appointments made available just for people who live in the bronx. this is a community largely african-american and latino, and we know those groups have been disproportionately impacted by the coronavirus and not had as much access to the vaccine. so mega site put here for residents of the bronx who meet the eligibility for vaccination. able to work with somos, network of doctors and health care professionals who work here already. hoping that people who wo

but kalt told npr his work is being misrepresented. >> the three places where they said i said something in effect i said the opposite. amy: lawyers for the defense also plan to argue trump was exercising his first amendment rights when he made comments like these to the thousands of people who rallied outside the white house on the day of the failed insurrection. pres. trump: we fight like hell. if you don't fight like hell, pp you're not going have a country anymore. amy: house impeachment managers and trump's defense lawyers will each be given 16 hours over two days to make their arguments. the trial could end early next week if witnesses are not called. after headlines, we'll get the latest on trump's second impeachment trial. georgia's republican secretary of state has opened an inquiry into donald trump's attempts to overturn joe biden's election victory in georgia. legal scholars say trump violated at least three federal and state election laws with comments like these made during an hour-long conference call with secretary brad raffensperger on january 2. pres. trump: i just want

npr had a good exposÉ on that. his people threatened various officials in fulton county, not just a phone call and threatening raffensperger with criminal prosecution. amy: and u.s. attorney forced out. >> pardon? amy: a u.s. attorney forced out in georgia. >> yes. there is a lot to uncover. you cannot do that by videotape. he had to do it by like testimony. trial lawyers say a trial without witnesses, are you kidding? why didn't they call the witnesses? because nancy pelosi wants to get this over with and she does not believe anything will change the minds of enough republican senators. i disagree. first of all, it not just for the republican senators. you have a full trial with a full hand of impeachable offenses, it is for american people, for public education, for the historic record, and for whatever use subsequent, prosecutions of trump that are pending in new york, georgia, and the district of columbia may be able to apply. it is a very narrow approach. unfortunately, the capability of the lead manager jamie

and tamara keith of npr. hello to both of you. good to see you. let's talk about this meeting.ficant that the president is having his first in person meeting, not with democrats but with republicans? amy: it says that president biden is serious about the promises he made on the campaign trail. not just lower the temperature but actually to try to work across the aisle. thus far, we are two weeks into this administration, but there was a recent pullout today that showed that 55% of americans believe joe biden is doing just that, focused more on unifying the country then being divisive. so, he is already getting some plaudits for that. the challenge right now, as a candidate, he also made promises on a number of progressive policies. those are not policies that republicans are going to support. balancing those two things can also be a challenge. right now, the question is, is there a middle ground between the one $9 trillion that the biden administration put forward and a much smaller republican package. that seems very difficult to find a place in the middle and all the language

meanwhile in an interview with npr, ben sasse who was one of seven republicans to vote to convict trump had this to say about the future of his party. >> is this still donald trump's party? >> i mean, if you look at polling in the short term, it surely appears that way, but i think the longer term question is what we need to look at and we need to distinguish between conservatism and shorter termism, if you will. i think it is important to give a frank assessment. in one term the republican party has lost the white house, house representatives and senate. that hasn't happened since herbert hoover in 1932. so i think that there is a whole bunch of stuff the party of lincoln and reagan needs to do to persuade people we have a 2030 agenda, not a 30 minute twitter agenda. >>> turning now to the pandemic. during a cnn town hall last night, joe biden defended his $1.9 trillion relief bill. >> now is the time we should be spending, now is the time to go big. we can come roaring back. it is estimated that if we pass this bill alone, we'll create 7 million jobs this year. i think bigger and the

you talked to npr about this the other day. >> i was. and i tell you this, while people are playing politics we continue to have folks on the ground here in mansfield, texas, whole suburbs that do not have electricity. i'm thinking of one suburb now, remington ranch, these people have been without electricity since monday. and let me also share this with you, bearing in mind that the folks on the ground here in mansfield, our police, our fire, our neighbors, our city workers have been working 24 hours, listen, 24/7. they've given their time and even in their own homes don't have utilities but they're working. and these people, while they're playing politics, i've got folks here in our city of about 80,000 residents who have nothing. it is utterly ridiculous. one of the largest, largest electricity providers, encore, here in texas is saying to people because of a computer glitch that these folks aren't able to have electricity, utilities. this many days later, ali. this many days later. i'm putting out a distress call. so thank you for al

that's amy walter of "the cook political report" and tamara keitof npr. hello to both of you.day in february, good to see you. let's talk about this meeting. amy, how significant is it that the president is having his first in-person meeting not with democrats but with republicans. what does that say? >> amy: well, it says that president biden is serious about the promises he made on the campaign trail, as you pointed out, judy, not to just lower the tonight but to try to work across the aisle. thus far, and we'ronly two weeks into this administration, but there is recent poll out today, the maris college poll, that showed that 55% of americans believe that joe biden is doing just that, is focused more on unifying the country than being divisive. so he is already getting some plaudets for that. the challenge is he is a candidate -- as a candidate, he also made promises on a number of progressive policies. those are not policies that republicans are going to support. so balancing those two things is always going to be a challenge. it looks like right now the question is: is the

npr's investigation shows a percentage of those people cited trump specifically in their kind of motivationsdoing what they were this conversation isn't over. but i think -- it sounds like on this panel i'm the person who is a little more pessimistic about what this means going forward for the republican party. i did not see some opening to the door of a granted revitalization or some change or trump saying goodbye. what i see is a party that is clearly still in his thrall. lawmakers that are still fearful of him and what that means going forward is quite serious. >> audie, i see the glass as half empty as you do. we'll have more about this conversation when we get all four of you back in a few minutes. >>> but when we directly come back, the cdc releases new guidelines for how to operate schools during the pandemic. how soon can we take kids from how soon can we take kids from t how soon can we take kids from t labradoodles, cronuts, skorts. (it's a skirt... and shorts) the world loves a hybrid. so do businesses. so, today they're going hybrid with ibm. a hybrid cloud approach lets them use

npr reported that problems occurred at multiple locations in several states. the san francisco chronicle reports san francisco, san mateo and alameda county's health departments have stopped sending vaccine doses to one medical offices. and in a letter obtained by the paper, san francisco officials requested the return of 1600 shots. san francisco based one medical says it follows proper protocols when it comes to certain priorities today, president biden announced plans to distribute 25 million face masks to americans in underserved communities. the masks will be handed out through community health centers, food banks and food pantry systems. starting next month, the administration will send outfitted cloth man asks in child and adult sizes that can be washed for re use. all of this is an effort to ensure equity in response to the pandemic. california officials set up secret codes to make it easier for communities of color to book vaccine appointments at 10 30 how those codes are now falling into the wrong hands. it's still pretty windy at high elevations out

as npr points out, many of the changes in the bill will effect larger minority heavy democratic strongholdsthe states, constituents that allowed bide tone defeat donald trump in the state last november than boosted democratic senators in georgia's january runoff elections. rather than appeal to the georgia voters who booted them from power in two subsequent elections next to each other which they can do, they're trying to do everything they can to make sure those people can't vote again. this is the source of donald trump's power over the republican party, the conservative moment. it's not that he has a special talent, per se. he just continues to most authentically channel the anti-democratic paranoia of the base. he'll be making the big saturday when he plans to send the message he is the 2024 nominee which, again, fine. but if trump disappeared tomorrow or in the wake of the supreme court decision that his accounting firm has to hand over the tax return data from the prosecutor if he were to be locked up, the big lie and resulting republican push to disenfranchise millions will not go aw

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and tamara keith of npr. hello to both of you, on this monday evening.ook us what, 20 years from the impeachment of president clinton to get to the impeachment, first impeachment of president trump but only one year to get to the second impeachment of president trump. how is this trial going to be different. >> well, that one year was 2020 and it felt like 20 years. but this is going to be different because this is a much different-- in the first impeachment it was something that happened behind closed doors, there was a phone call, there was a transcript, there wasn't video, there wasn't a public campaign as there was this time where president tru lead a public campaign over a series of weeks to try to undermine the outcome of the election and reverse the outcome of the election which culminated on january 6th with that rally that was followed by the insurrection that left five people dead. and so house impeachment managers are going to be able to make a much clearer case, one that doesn't require understanding foreign policy or you know sort of what th

they this abc, nbc, cbs and npr yet rush limbaugh had to go down.s found that curious. >> martha: bill? >> yeah, i think rush accepted if you stand for something people are going to try to tear you down. i first met him when i was at nash review in the early 1990s when he was starting out. it was funny. he used to say i don't demand equal time. i am equal time. and he was just brilliant at his craft. he dominated radio for about a third of the life that the industry has been around. and i remember when the remember when the liberals were trying to start alternative. he said they would fail because he didn't understand the people and the humor. the human wasn't about smearing people. for liberals they are the entertainment of his show. and he was a genius. >> martha: march play a soundbite if i could this interview we did a decade ago the personal side of his own struggles. watch this. >> martha: let me say to people that are not among the 20 million people out there who listen to you all the time and who hear phrases like that and say gee, that's pr

last we go to tam ron keith, npr. >> thank you very much. so i have a few questions about this new test that is being pushed out. at $30 a pop, that sounds cheap compared to the tests that are available now but it isly a lot of money if you're thinking, i don't know, am i going to test my kindergartner every day, once a week. who would be paying for these tests and how does a $30 test fit with your equity goals and are there even going to be enough of them for it to be used for screening? >> thanks. so look, the purpose of today's announcement which is very exciting is to move to mass production and scale. and obviously the unit costs will come down only when we get to the mass production and scale. so there is a chicken an egg problem that i think we have taken a step to solve today by creating mass production that we'll soo tens of millions of these tests out secondly, we know there are other programs to drive innovation, and it's unleashed in many respects a side of america that we haven't talked a lot about during the response to this vi

. >> great reporting out of china recently including by npr about that. it's brutal jobs. they get find all the time for not delivering quickly similar to what happened in the united states actually. this is the main job the migrant workers are now doing as they leave the factory jobs, and that's a very, very difficult source of employment. >> so do you think there's any chance or possibly that they will be changes in the system? you outlined outline hs why it shouldn't be there, but do you think they might be? >> again, i think this is the time if there ever was one when the chinese government needs to reform the system. i shouldn't say they know that. they been talking at least since for the last seven years they have been talking about the need to reform the system specifically to bring more of real and migrant people into the consumer economy and tried to make this transition to much more domestic market driven economy. as a severely right now global trade frictions particularly with the u.s., with what happened with covid-19, china is very aware that it needs much mor

npr did a great report this morning showing governor abbott on fox news blaming green power and wind turbines, and then on the local stations telling a more truthful tale talking about this is a failure across the board and the combination of this unprecedented storm with the grid unable to carry these loads and power not being generated for a range of reasons, including natural gas, that is a different tale than what they were trying to spin early on. so the focus of trying to politicize this moment when really the need for so many texans is dire just sort of shows the disconnect between the politics and what people are experiencing on the ground. >> and libby, as someone who charts a lot of these issues, extreme weather is not going away any time soon. do these kind of stress tests for governments, state or federal also put certain modern republican orthodoxies under the test? because this is not one of those debatable things we covered donald trump's supreme court justices, and people can debate who they wanton court, it sort of depends on the issue. here either this stuff works t

according to npr, the text of one voter suppression bill was introduced just one hour before it was passed out of committee giving the democrats on that committee barely any time to find out what was in it. so what happens next in the state of georgia? georgia democrats are still in the minority in the state house and the senate. so, is there anything they can do to stop these changes? joining us now is democratic georgia state representative, rhonda. representative, thank you for joining us. tell me the status of this. this is a remarkable and interesting matter, in that republicans, until this election, were all about early voting and absentee voting. they wrote that law into being. they -- they are the ones who passed these laws into being. >> thank you for having me tonight. yes. we did receive this bill, yesterday. and today, during our committee meeting, it was a hearing in which fellow georgians were able to talk to us about their concerns about hb-531. as we know, georgia has been a leader in providing voters more options to vote than most states. so, why would they undermine -- wh

third of the party like the maga base ise >> sarah longwell, ow viewers and listeners listening to npr or read a profile of you in the new yorker will know how active you were in encouraging the party switching or the ballot switching that tim alluded to, republicans voting for biden. b why did you do that? >> well, boy, nobody has asked me that in a while. why did i do it?t that i did it because, look, from the moment that donald trump showedn up on the political scene and i mean that in the 2014 barack obama as a muslim sense, i have been against him, revolted by him. i just, i was absolutely stunned when he became the nominee of the republican party. it showed me how out of touch i was with what the party was interested in. and i felt like he was an existential threat to our democracy, to decency, to the truth. i mean, i just have never seen t somebody lie so much and so cavalierly. i think that somebody with botht his business history and his history whether it is assaulting women or the way he talks about people, the way he talks about - muslims, this is just a person who i though