npr's ari shapiro got rejected for an npr internship.and then i found out that nina totenberg, the legendary legal affairs correspondent, hires her own interns. separate from the npr internship program. so i applied to her. she offered me an opportunity and i've never looked back. i've been in npr ever since. and nina remains a great friend and mentor. and i would also recommend her book, which came out fall dinners with ruth, about her friendship with ruth bader ginsburg and that generation women in washington. yeah, for sure. okay. we've got one over here. i think she has the mic. oh, sorry. you're the moderator. no, no stealing shot. it's just naturally to me. well, this is about this is about me. oh, great. so i am a person like. i love talking to strangers and meeting people. and i just want to say that now you have inspired me to start writing about these. oh, wonderful. thank you. oh, i'm so glad to hear it. my dirty little secret is that i will not talk anyone on an airplane because it's. you know, the thing about being a journal

so >> i listen to npr a law intellect can't anymore. the world is so dark and there are so many dark stories. from your perspective doesn't this depressed you? can you give us any message of hope that there is any way we are going to get out of the mess? >> absolutely. part number one is that all things considered, within the last year we have made a really active effort to in every half hour includes some moment of humanity, optimism joy and light. because life so much more in the worst things happen in the world. so hopefully you've heard a change because we've definitely been very conscious to make. that's number one. thing number two. there is the delegates of looking at the world which is more people have access to clean water than ever before. fewer people are living in poverty than ever before. if your babies are dying in childbirth than ever before. more young women are being educated than ever before in human history. so actually the world is a better place to live in now and it ever has been for all human existence. so that is

ari shapiro got rejected from npr internship.and the legendary legal affairs correspondent nino copan burke hires her own interns from the npr internship program so she offered me an opportunity and i never looked back, i've been at npr ever since. i would also recommend her book which came out last fall about her friendship with ruth bader ginsburg and that generation of women in washington. >> we've got one over here. you are the moderator. just comes naturally to me. >> this is about me. i am a person like you. i love talking to strangers. now you have inspired me to start writing about these experiences so thank you. >> guest: my dirty little secret is i will not talk to anyone on an airplane. the thing about being a journalist, you can always walk away. on an airplane you can't walk away. >> host: one over here and we will see if anybody -- >> i listen to npr a lot until i can't anymore. the world is so dark and so many dark stories, from your perspective, doesn't this deep press you? can you give us any message of hope that

including the npr internship. and i think this is important are we shapiro got rejected for an internship. and then i found out nina, legendary legal affairs correspondent, hired her own interred separate from the npr internship program. so i applied to her, she offered me an opportunity, and i never looked back, i've been at npr ever since. i would also recommend her book which came out last fall dinner with ruth about her friendship with ruth bader ginsburg, and that generation of women in washington. >> okay we have one over here. >> i think she has the mic already. >> you're the, moderator sorry. just comes naturally to me. >> this is about me. so i am, i love talking to strangers i just want to say you have inspired me to start writing about. >> wonderful. >> my dirty little secret, i will not talk to anyone on our plate. the great thing about being a journalist, you can always walk away, on an airplane you cannot walk away. >> one thing we have over here, we. i listen to npr a lot i can't anymore. >> same. s

npr award-winning afternoon news show. has reported from above the arctic circle aboard air force one. he has covered wars in iraq, ukraine and israel and is filed stories from dozens of countries and most of the 50 states he has one to edward r murrow awards one for his reporting on the life and death of breonna taylor and another for his coverage of the trump administration asylum policies on the u.s./mexico border. thank you for listening. please look at ari shapiro. [applause] >> appreciate it. it is so good to be with you all here today was that year end a half ago arrival to the d.c. area who now serves us at the library of congress where he is doing incredible work and i'm looking forward toad talking to you. >> think it's much glad to be here. when joeso took the screen so tt he is so happy to ensure i woke up this morning so there's a new documentary on hbo and i thought should it go talk to ari shapiro or should i watch. [laughter] >> i assume you watch it on your way here in the uber on your phone. that white sh

this lead arie to become one of the host of all things, nprs newscast. he's's been aboard air force on. covered wars and filed stories from dozens of countries in most of the 50 states. he's woned two edward r. marrow awards. one on thein reporting of the le andhe death of brianna taylor ad the trump administration asylum at the border. please welcome ari e shaperio. >> it's great to be here with you all. severing uss at the library of congress.le i look forward to talking to you. >> thank you so much. i'm glad to be here. joe was so hype to introduce you. i saw there was a new documentary about donna summers i assumed you watch it hear on the uber. >> yeah. i'm probably the only director that writes his questions in the back of the book. >> that's what i do too. author interviews i take w my notes in the back of the book. >> it works for me. >> i'd like to know about the threat that runs through the book about your pursuit of reporting the news in a more human way. inn almost every chapter in the book about reporting that arises. tell us about t the sto

npr's award-winning afternoon newsre show. he's reported from above the arcticov circle and above air force one. he's covered wars in iraq, ukraine and is real and vital stories from dozens of countries in most of the 50 states. he is one to edward murrow awards, oneg for his reportingn the life and death of breonna taylor and another for his coverage of the trump administration asylum policies on the us-mexico border. thank you for listening and please welcome shapiro. [applause] it's so good to be with you all today and especially with the recent arrival to the dc area who now serves us in the country and the library of congress where hein was doing incredible work and i look forward to talking with you. >> thank you so much. i'm glad to be here. like he took a screenshot he was so happy to introduce you. i woke up this morning and saw that there is a new documentary on hbo about donna summers and i thought should i go talk or -- [laughter] i assume you watched it on your way here. why choose, that is my life motto. and i'm

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john: jasmine garsd of npr. thank you very much.arsd: thank you. ♪ john: going into the world cup, few would have predicted what has happened to the u.s. women's team, their earliest departure ever from the tournament after today's loss to sweden on penalty kicks in the round of 16. christine brennan is a sports columnist for usa today. what is your biggest take away from the game? >> certainly it's historic john in the sense that the u.s. team as we know if they don't win these tournaments, they are in the final or for sure, the semifinal and this is the first time. the u.s. will not be in the final four and not only that they're knocked out the round of 16. so that is really the shock. just the momentous nature of this team, which is much more than just a soccer team. i think the u.s. women's team is the most famous team in any sport from any nation in terms of women's sports, and so they've done so much off the field in terms of working for equal pay and putting their hand out to others from other nations to encourage them to sta

gary johnson, npr justice correspondent. thank you. ♪ stephanie: i'm stephanie sy with newshour west. here are the latest headlines. dozens of counties in florida declared emergencies, and residents are preparing for what's expected to be the state's first major hurricane this year. idalia is currently a tropical storm heading into the gulf of mexico. it could strike florida's big bend region by early wednesday as a hurricane. in tallahassee, state leaders warned people to remember how hurricane ian exploded in size and power last year. >> if your community is not in the forecast cone, it does not mean you are clear. please look at all of the watches and warnings. we encourage every floridian along the gulf coast to begin enacting their emergency preparedness plans now. now is not necessarily the time to write a plan, now is the time to act on a plan. stephanie: meanwhile, in the atlantic, franklin intensified into a category 4 hurricane, with winds nearly 150 miles an hour. it's expected to pass near bermuda, but veer away

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there's a lot to sort through. >> host of npr's morning edition.ka whitfield earlier. >>> fulton county is putting in place additional security measures in case an indictment takes place this week. >> reporter: the big question, will fulton county be another place where trump is charged and arrested. it appears fulton county is ready. they have increased police presence. and we're seeing officers patrolling around the courthouse. and the barricades that have been set up. it's not just the building but the visual face of this investigation in fulton county into donald trump. that's fani willis, the fulton county d.a. she has received additional security protection near her home. she has recently urged officials to stay vigilant against security threats. willis shared messages she has received and similar threatening voicemails. the sheriff is in charge of security here in fulton county. he says his team is prepared. >> we're leveraging technology. we want to look at the latest and the greatest. and we have four or five other sheriff's offices coming

npr. and "new york times" news. do want to tell you, none of these people are ashamed of this listing in. fact, these biases are bragged. fox news came about to say hey we are going to share the conservative voice and reveled in it. msnbc is not ashamed to say what they are. so bias must be a very good thing. and it is. so that relates to, people have gotten skeptical. will americans trust in media? what can media leaders do to restore trust? i believe that the answer to the question lies in founders and leaders innovations. noablg has a big role to play in how people, i shared with you the smartphone. in fact, and the insight we talked about, i have tried to address that. but i just wanted to start with some opening remarks. and that leads us to our featured panelists. so i'm going to now just get to the featured panelists and i ask the featured panelists to come up with just some ideas where they would react to whatever i shared. and then we will take it from there. if that's ok with you. we haven't decided on an

why did they not cut funding for npr?ell, the basic reason is that rural conservative republican embers of the congress knew that for example the local public radio station, which might indeed be connected to a university, which many of them were, was one of the few ways that they could talk to their constituents. and so the republican coalition rambles about liberal media, but when they actually get a chance to defund liberal media, they do not do it. and i think the lesson we can take from that is yes, trust is a strange thing. you find it where you did not expect to find it and you do not find it where you expected to. and i do not think that the sort of more senior republican figures of greed with the level of media bashing that the rest of the party is exercising. they remember a time when the press did connect them to their >> constituency. >>i will give one example of a case where working with communities does help. this is specifically about trust. we supported a project called every voice, every vote, which was -

for the past nine years she has hosted the award-winning daily news and culture show press bite on npr in santa monica. always a delight, madeleine. madelyn: it is so great to be back from a minor absence. probably only a temporary absence. i am happy to be back with you and excited to speak with david gergen, distinguished political analyst who i grew up watching on my television screen. director of communications for both presidents ford and reagan, and as the senior advisor to president clinton, he graduated with honors from yale and harvard law school and has been awarded 27 honorary degrees. he is a professor of public service and founding rector of public leadership at harvard. he is a senior political analyst for cnn. welcome. mr. gergen: it is good to be here with you. i am looking forward to the conversation. madeleine: we have something to talk about. mr. gergen: it was so quiet. [laughter] madeleine: this latest indictment, or maybe the fifth if you include the superseding come out of georgia. it is sweeping, we have donald trump, plus 18 others, covering racketeering and 40

he went on npr he said there are massive risk of election fraud here. npr had to run it back, we allowed the attorney general to tell a falsehood on air. huge risk of fraud in voting, nothing we can do to police it, any proof of it, he said no, i just know it -- he come on our air, on cnn, and wolf blitzer knowing that bill barr was pushing the election fraud lie, how many cases has your doj actually prosecuted of election fraud, barr said, well there's one case involving 1700 false ballots which sounded remarkable until the next day when it came out that case involved 1 ballot. one instance of election fraud. doj had to run a correction there, bill barr has changed his tune quite a bit. not effective witness for prosecutors. he was behind this, he helped spread it. >> van, taking aside the real issues that was brought up about bill barr said before versus now, i was struck by the fact that he really believes that jack smith, quote, a lot more that's not in the indictment specifically on trump's state of mind. that's the key. the hardest to prove and bi

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greg, the democrats are constantly so disappointmented and disgusted with republicans and listen to npr, they can't believe that republicans would stick h with him, even after all the indictments. even after all the legal problems and they stick with him and they cannot figure it out. >> greg: that's a terrible impression of npr. i can't believe. >> dana: i'll try better. but one point hi to speed -- i had to speed it up to get it over. >> greg: we hate him so much. why don't they hit him too? it's because you hate him so much in they love him because he scares you baa tase support hip. the more you throw the stuff, it's spinach to popeye and more indictments and impeachments and that's got to feel weird right now. first impeachment and perfect phone call and turns out he was dead right. think about that. >> yeah. >> shannon bream, next step in the legal process. will his team make a motion to, what? >> well, august it'll is the next hearing so this judge is not wasting time. they want to move this thing forward as far as dc case is concerned but there's so many pretrial motions and i t

npr justice correspondent carrie johnson was at garland's announcement.ney general said weiss asked for this, why would he ask for this and what is the change? carrie: justice department policy says don't tell people in the public what you are doing exactly before you decide to file criminal charges. exactly what changed is unclear. we do know the attorney general said david weiss came to him, called him on tuesday and said he had entered a new stage of this investigation and he believed it was important to appoint him a special counsel. merrick garland said he was in the public interest, he agreed, and that has been done as of today. all we know is since 2019, weiss has been investigating hunter biden. according to appointment paperwork, others as well, but we don't know who they are. it may be this investigation has entered a new phase regards hunter biden, and possibly others. john: what do we know about the scope? of what weiss can do? carrie: he will keep charge of this hunter biden investigation and he is also able to prosecute other people, includi

closer toured a this french statesman said charles degaulle, you feel like npr when you start pronouncingoreign cities and names. closer toured a charles degaulle said napoleon served a greatness and moderation. it should be instructive for future generations. again building onto golf analysis in a couple of this important writings about statesmanship.s the great man's works of energy fizzle out or give rise to tragedy when they are severed and what degaulle called the rules of classical order. there's a book by degaulle called the discord among the enemy translated into english in a little play by lincoln but it's a work of a more civilized world. degaulle as a prisoner ofed war captured and he was an officer soviet access to the prison library and started to write a book about why germany lost world war i. he blamed it in part on the insubordination of the german military elites and especially the influence of the will to power of contempt of moderation and the rules of classical order. an appreciation of quote the limits marked out by human experience, common sense and the law unquote.

npr justice reporter carrie johnson was in the room for the proceedings and she joins me now.is always great to see you. the federal judge has set march 4, 2024, as the trial date in donald trump's election interference case. remind us what the two parties were initially asking for. carrie: they were so far apart. jack smith, a special counsel in this case, wanted to start the trial on january 2, 2024. lawyers for former president donald trump wanted to kick this trial all the way into 2026, the spring of 2026. the judge said that is too far but she agrees that trump and his attorneys need more time to prepare in this landmark case with over 12 million pages of documents so she set march, early march 2024, as the trial date in washington, d.c.. geoff: how did she justify this day in court today? carrie: the judge said donald trump has asked to be treated like any other defendant and she is taking him at his word. she pointed out that if he were a professional athlete, she would not set a trial schedule around the athlete's performance dates. the idea that trump is running agai

gabriella's stories regularly appear on npr's morning edition and all things considered, and she has reported episodes for planet and code switch. her has appeared in the new york times and the atlantic. she has received numerous awards, including national and regional. edward r morrow lords, a sigma delta cheer award and a clarion award. gabriella received her bachelor's degree from dartmouth college and her doctorate from oxford as a rhodes scholar. first, we'll hear from dan in just a moment. he's going to start us off with a reading. but first, to give us a little bit more background. i'd like to welcome gabriela over and she's going to fill us in. gabriela. welcome. thank. it is good to be here. as she just said, if you could all be thinking about questions during while we chat, we will be coming you shortly. and i also just wanted to say, when i started reading book, i was in chicago with my in-laws and i just kept reading passages from aloud to to the household because it was that good. and by the time i came back to boston, they were like making sure they had the title right

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npr reports miami mayor francis suarez suspended his campaign for president. the 45-year-old mayor failed to qualify for last week's first republican debate. he launched his twain about two months ago hoping to become the first latino elected president. suarez is the first candidate to drop out of the crowded gop field. he did not endorse anyone else. >>> nbc news says new york city democratic mayor eric adams and the bangladesh are fighting over what to do about a surge. migrants. almost 60,000 asylum seekers are under the city's care. many are sleeping on the streets after hotels and shelters housing migrants reached capacity. adams has blamed the administration for not giving the city more resources. >> each time we open a new space, that's not an answer. it's not sustainable. if you're averaging 10,000 people a month and if the national plan is have new york city continue to find spaces, that is not an answer. >> new york is building new migrant shelters, but there have been protests opposing them throughout the city. >>> and "the new york times" says hund

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joining me to discuss all this, this unprecedented turn an, francesca chambers, carrie johnson, npr's justice correspondent, a guardian reporter and jeff mason. this has been a remarkable week. you have been around washington covering politics for a while. what do you make of this? we have a man who has been impeached twice, three times indicted, has a bunch of civil cases against him, too. he's facing possible more indictments. but at the same time he is dominating the republican nomination race, and he's tied with the incumbent president. >> it is historic on multiple levels. historic number one because of everything you said. he has been indicted and was arraigned and the fact that the former president of the united states had to come to washington to appearing corporate and east facing consequences in a way that his supporters have also faced. we know he is innocent until proven guilty. we do not know what the outcome of these proceedings will be. but it was historic for all of those levels. it is clearly historic politically because of what's going on next, which is another elect

— before everything, before i went to broadway — i had listened to a reading of the color purple on nprr and we pulled over our van to listen to this reading, and we made a decision that instead of maybe buying two pairs of shoes for my daughter, we'd get a book and a pair of shoes. and so, the color purple was one that she and i listened to together. and so, when i got to los angeles and i met steve and he said, "oh, and i'm making this movie". i said, "what are you making?" he said, "color purple". i said, "oh, cool — i wrote alice walker a letter." he said, "i know," and he pulled it out. she had sent it to him. why had you written to alice walker? well, i — because i thought the book was magnificent. and i said, "if they ever make a movie, i would like to play dirt "on the floor," and she's like, "0k!" she wrote to quinchones and wrote to steven spielberg and wrote back to me saying, you know, "they may be "making a movie. "i'll keep you posted." and she had already sent it all to steven, because alice walker lived in berkeley and she had seen my show. she'd come to see the show? sh

spillover of new disease, talk about the dangers of the pandemic, question television, cnn and various npr outlets. australian broadcasting outlets. i spent a large portion of my time doing media responses to try to help people understand what might happen with this new virus. then march 2, i flew back to my home in montana and march 20 i think, the world health organization everybody else can see this was a pandemic march 20 of 2020 and will soon after i heard from simon & schuster saying david, we want you to book you on theyo pandemic we think you are the right person to because spillover because of your op-ed because you are out of contract with us already anyway. [laughter]sh so i said why don't you push the cancer to the back of your desk and will give you a nice new contract and you do a pandemic book for us. for about five secondses and thn i said yes, realizing this is not an opportunity, this is an obligation to the so i said yes and signed the contract. based on essentially cocktail napkin proposal i gave quickly. i'll write a book about the pandemic and here's the contract and

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speaking about the book and have been cover bid the wall street journal, the today show, smithsonian, npr, c-span and many other print radio and television outlets. aftersi our conversation, mike will be taking questions from our live audience. please put your questions for mike in the chat and we will get to as many as possible at the end ofy our program. welcome to white house history live, mike. >> thank you, coleen, wonderful with you. it's honor to serve the nation. tell us about how you were selected as commander of camp david and what the process is like? >> well, we know it is camp david, navy command, maryland in town nearby and the name the operated maintained since it was started by president roosevelt. because it's principal is self-maintained a civil engineer officer is coordinating officer. in 1998 i was put as possible officer to be considered. i was interview with simmons and the executive director of the white house, a week later byte the -- got the call. >> amazing. tell us about your personal history with camp david. >> i knew what it was. i visited one as assignment of

we turn to our politics monday team, in the walter and tamera keith of npr.at to see you both as always. we have these candidates colliding in iowa. ron desantis is trying to reset his campaign. you wrote a piece about his perceived failure to launch. >> i did this by looking at the polling but also listening to what voters have been saying ross the country. what it seems that ron desantis, his biggest stumble was messaging and timing. the timing was he decided to wait until earlier this summer to officially launch his campaign, but he was the hottest at the end of 2022. i wonder if he had taken that momentum and kept driving that instead of going back to tallahassee. the second is messaging. it was cle in all of the focus groups that republican voters, especially those in the camp of never voting for trump or i like trump but i'm open to other alternatives, what they were saying is they liked ron desantis because he looked delectable and he could win swing voters. he decided to focus on being the anti-woke warrior. using his time at the governor's office to

speaking about the book and has been covered by the wall street journal, the today show the smithsonian, npr, c-span many other print radio and television outlets. after our conversation mike will be taking questions from our live audienceue please pay your questions for mike in the chat we will get to as many as possiblean at the end of our program. welcome to white house history live, mike cook's thank you calling wonderful to be here. asas most would say it's a great honor and privilege to serve our navy and nation. and i appreciate that. >> notes are from the beginning you're sort of camp david? tell us how you were selected as commander of camp david but that process was light? >> we note as camp david it is that navy command that navies operated and maintained it. he started in 1942 by president roosevelt. because it's principally self maintained 40% are greats, civil engineer officers always the commanding officer in history. in 1998 i was put on a short list of possible officers to be considered, went to the white house. an executive director of the white house military office mrse s