it had been a very good year for the nra. >> the nra is back! (cheers and applause) >> narrator: and now, the nra would take the offensive. >> that leads me to that one mission that is left undone: winning in november. (cheers and applause) >> the race between george w. bush and al gore, that's the last year that the gun issue played a critical role in american politics. >> narrator: now it was time to settle a score with the man who had broken that tie vote in the senate-- al gore. >> i want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, mr. gore. (laughter) from my cold dead hands! (cheers and applause) >> narrator: they would spend $20 million on the 2000 election, the most aggressive political campaign they had ever undertaken. >> al gore wants government testing, licensing and registration for all firearms owners. he cast the vote that would have shut down every gun show. this year, vote freedom first because if al gore wins, you lose. >> to all of you in west virginia, it'

if they continue to oppose the terror gap, the nra, the nra itself will be in part responsible in every terror attack that involves a gun in this country. plain and simple. there's no other way to avoid that fact. so on this upcoming bill, we're going to try yet again to close this dangerous loophole once and for all. when the senate considers the next appropriation bill. can we win? we'll win. sooner or later. we'll keep trying. we're not giving up. reporters come over and say, well, you can't win. why do it? every time we have a vote, hopefully we can win. hopefully they'll change their minds out there. but if not, they will face the consequences, and that makes progress move forward. the moment of soul searching for our republican colleagues is now. what's it going to be? are they going to side with the extremists and the nra or the vast majority of their constituents and all americans who simply don't believe terror suspects should have access to guns. the only people who seem to believe it are the republican senators on the floor of that house -- of that body.

the nra opposes such legislation. but also backs the gop presumptive nominee. senior national correspondent john roberts reports tonight on what could be a true test of leadership. >> some people love me. my problem is they love me or hate me. >> under withering fire from democrats and republicans following his comments on the orlando massacre. donald trump wouldn't back down an inch. insisting doing the same old thing when it comes to terrorism isn't working. >> we have to stop on a temporary basis at least, we have to stop people from pouring into our country we have to stop it. >> until we find out what the hell is going on. >> president obama and hillary clinton are battering trump for what they call divisive, inappropriate rhetoric. obama angrily ridiculing obama's criticism. trump firing back that it makes a difference. >> unless you're willing to discuss and talk about the real nature of the problem and the name of the problem, radical islamic terrorism, you're never going to solve the problem. >> but trump did say something that caught the white house'

the nra opposes such legislation. but also backs the gop presumptive nominee. senior national correspondent john roberts reports tonight on what could be a true test of leadership. >> some people love me. my problem is they love me or hate me. >> under withering fire from democrats and republicans following his comments on the orlando massacre. donald trump wouldn't back down an inch. insisting doing the same old thing when it comes to terrorism isn't working. >> we have to stop on a temporary basis at least, we have to stop people from pouring into our country we have to stop it. >> until we find out what the hell is going on. >> president obama and hillary clinton are battering trump for what they call divisive, inappropriate rhetoric. obama angrily ridiculing obama's criticism. trump firing back that it makes a difference. >> unless you're willing to discuss and talk about the real nature of the problem and the name of the problem, radical islamic terrorism, you're never going to solve the problem. >> but trump did say something that caught the white house'

leon, stark and opposing sides outside of the nra headquarters. candlelight vigil, several nra members holding the vigil, saying they support the lives lost. they agree complete with the folks on the other side. th protest, organized by a grassroots social justice organization. whoe are the folks completely disagree with the nra, blaming them for the mass shootings in this country, and here is why. >> right now we are outside of the nra where dozens are gathering in the wake of the tragic orlando shooting. code pink members, well known for holding protest -- >> we are not trying to take away old hunting rifles. jay: parked in front of the nra, one of their fiercest rivals. >> we are trying to take away assault weapons. for they blame the honorÉ creating a culture that makes it far too easy to purchase assault-style weapons. intoe nra has put millions lobbying against sensible gun reform. jay: they believe that tighter gun laws will decrease mass shootings. >> i said not one more. jay: this protester came to no >> these are the 49 victims of the sh

turn us around". >> reporter: protesters of the nra staged a die-in.ands painted red to symbolize the blood of those violence. the civil disobedience was

the nra was against the democratic plan but did support a republican plan. democrats know that they have an advantage here, they know public opinion is on their side so they were trying to push for as much as they could get. there wasn't a lot of talk going on about a compromise. and that's where it got left. >> rose: that brings up susan collins. >> correct. so that is the news today. susan collins has been, you know, she's a centrist from maine always known for trying to get a compromise going. she's been working for days now with both republicans and democrats, including senator hidecamp from north dakota who has been resistant to gun control measures in the past given her state and the make up and the voters there. and also republicans who include kelly -- whose got a cuff re-election -- tough re-election. they've come up with a plan. mitch mick connell said they will come up with a vote. it's a compromise between the republican and democrat proposals and so they're going to get another chance to vote on this but it's not sure that that proposal could ev

senator chris murphy on why today he said the vise grip of the nra is loosening on congress. and the smart gun solution. >> take the wristwatch away. it is more than ten inches. the grip tells me i cannot fire. i pull the trigger, i get nothing. >> our exclusive report on how innovation could fix the problems that politicians refuse to address. >> there will probably be some types of smart guns on the civilian market in about a year. >> when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. donald trump talks a big game about his wealth and his self-proclaimed talent for managing money. but he's always played it notoriously close to the vest when it comes to disclosing his actual finances. most recently refusing to release his tax returns, something every gop presidential candidate has done since nixon. with the release of his latest filing with the federal election commission, trump was forced to lay his cards on the table and reveal a campaign historically underfunded and unprepared to wage a general election race. at the end of may, trump's first

>> i think he is, but his willingness to meet with nra because we know nra is not going to budge.ra represents millions of people and he still needs those people. i think it's a good sign and trump could help with libertarians and conservatives if he shows i'm willing to listen and change, especially on the no-fly zone. kennedy: i think he's going to convince the nra to do his bidding. i think they were -- >> that's true, i don't think the nra is going to budge. kennedy: nor do i think they should budge. i think they are right and echoing the language they used before which is of course terrorists shouldn't have guns. no one says they should. but you have to protect understand extent americans and guard their constitutional rights. jimmy, you play the part of donald trump, i'm be the nra. >> what do you think of banning -- kennedy: no! >> that's the whole meeting. it's over in 30 seconds. kennedy: the nra i don't think is going to budge. but it's a bad time to craft legislation when you haven't buried the victims of the mass kerr. >> i think he has been forced into this position b

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of the nra, that it can take them out.indsey graham today said he is part of the collins coalition. he said i am usually with the nra, but i'm not going to be with them on this. this is common sense. if somebody has to get inconvenienced to prevent a future mass killing, i'm willing to take the risk. he is from south carolina. he has always owned guns and hunts. if you need to get gun-control legislation seriously through, a recognition there. the nra, as i am sure evan has reported during his story is a , superpowerful force in washington of almost mythical power. lawmakers really do not want to cross them. that has happened, evolved over the years. so the nra, they definitely don't want anything to pass that they are opposed to because that is going to show a weakening of their position. you have seen this in other lobbies in the past. once people see that they can make a move in opposition to you, and you don't pay a huge penalty, then that can build into bigger momentum. but i think people's mindsets in terms of the po

i occasionally will watch the nra's broadcasts, they have their own sort of network. the key here is that it is an identity expression of a certain political world view, a certain place that you fit in your political tribes, that is related to guns but not just about guns. i mean, there's a lot of gun owners who are not down for that but they are managing to kind of organize those folks. >> that's exactly right. and i think we've got to do a much better job of working with gun owners to make them understand what the nra is reied a -- really advocating for. new groups like the one that just started last week, veterans for commonsense gun reform, is important. so a lot of this is an education campaign with gun owners about what the nra really is advocating for that's missing. >> are you going to break the filibuster, get to 60 votes, you think? >> color me skeptical that ultimately there are going to be 15 republicans who are going to break with the nra. they came out after the collins proposal was rolled out and she had they oppose it. my worry is this makes a handful

we're not afraid of the nra!re not afraid of the nra! >> those are the scenes outside of the capitol where there were protests tonight, where inside democrats staged a sit-in to get a vote on gun control. joining me now is lois beckett. tomorrow's "new york daily news" cover, "the nra's little lap dog" with a picture of paul ryan. >> they put those kinds of headlines out all the time. and for a republican to be associated with the nash ra is a bad thing. we had a republican tweeting that he was so frustrated with the democrats jihad on the second amendment that he was going to buy a new gun. >> and they compare the democrats to terrorists on a radio show today. i mean, that's really quote a strange comparison. >> oh, this microphone doesn't belong to the nra, and it doesn't belong to the gun manufacturers. this microphone that they cut off belongs to the american people. >> and so i say to the speaker, you need to do your job. and i say to the nra, i get an "f" too. nra, get the hell out of the way. >> background

the nra put out this statement earlier.y said quote, we're happy to meet with donald trump, the nra's position on this issue has not changed. terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. at the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding americans who are wrongly put on a watch list to be removed. and kg, i'll start with you. the due process is the applicable two words in that whole statement. >> you know, i don't think they're inconsistent. i don't think they're mutually exclusive. i think what he's saying is something that does need to be addressed. if someone is on a terror watch list, i don't want them getting a gun. at least a delayed list and pending the investigation, they talk to you, find out what you're up to. do a deep dive before you authorize something like that if you're not okay to fly but then at the same time you want to make sure that due process protections. for those that are wrongly accused or end up on a no flies flooi list, when it's no

i under estimated how powerful the nra was, i admit that when we lost the vote of 2013. more people coming to the polls elevating this issue when they vote. 90% of the americans public support background checks, they don't necessarily vote that way. i had enough of this, i had enough of in action and i had to do what i could. yesterday was standing on my feet for 15 hours. we did really activate millions of people across the country yesterday. we had 10,000 phone calls into our little office alone yesterday. hopefullil hopefully, what we did is of a positive vote beginning next week >> senator murphy, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and coming up, hillary clinton making a surprising comment about the democratic chair. next on "andrea mitchell reports," on msnbc. ♪jake reese, "y to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ what if 30,000 people download the new app? we're good. okay... what if a million people download the new app? we're good. fiveillion? good. we scale on demand. hybrid infrastructure, boom. ok. what if 30 million people downlo the app? we're

although it's worth pointing out that the nra was in favor of legislation against machine guns but theywere developing that slippery slope argument that if we let this legislation go they'll eventually come after the rifle. so the rifle and the hunter sort of became an alibi in the argument and it was this one for all strategy that began to get adopted. >> a reminder to viewers, we are speaking with pamela haig, author of the gunning of america, business and the making of american gun culture. she culture. she is a historian with a phd from yale and my question pamela is, i'll come right out and ask it, what is your position, if any, specifically on the second amendment. what does it mean to you? >> i don't know that i came into this with a firm position at all and i don't think i'm leaving with the firm position specifically about the second amendment. i think it is the part of our culture, our gun culture that is exceptional. it is protecting the rights of citizens and other countries don't have the special protection. since that is in place, to me and makes more sense to pay at least

all that being said, the nra is the single most powerful lobby on capitol hill. they have members that if they tell them to say yes, they say yes. if they tell them to jump, they ask how high. the nra wants to do something, they'll do it to the republican party on capitol hill. it's very difficult to break that logjam. >> luke russert on capitol hill. thanks for that. >>> speaking of the nra and its role in all of this, donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee, announcing yesterday that he will meet with the nra soon and suggesting that he may be pushing the group to support that measure luke was just talking about. a ban on those on the terror watch list buying guns. the nra has previously opposed legislation to do so on the grounds that law-abiding individuals can land on that federal terror watch list without any due process. and then not have any recourse to get off of that list, even if they've done nothing wrong. trump also holding his position that more people carrying guns could prevent massacres like the one in orlando. >> if some of those great

that is the tactic the nra has used in the past.van: they have used it very effectively in the past. we have a 98% success rate when it comes to candidates we endorse and the candidates we oppose. mayor bloomberg has said we are do the same thing. if you are not on the side that we are on with guns we are going to use our resources to run against you. that is a meaningful threat. mood has been a change in among some on the left. the idea of the nra was this has begunable force to erode. actually, if you dig into those , often times they may be taking races they know they are going to win because that guarantees they keep their numbers hide. one of the points on this issue, the nra is a paper tiger. maybe not as strong as they think they are. i'm not going to go that far. what you are finding is there is a recognition that congress is incapable of moving on this. killed inhildren were 2012, hard to imagine what will move the congress today. charlie: on the go to interview with thewashington vice president. why they: the reason becaus

and the nra's top lobbyist square off. will the outrage over orlando lead to break-through. >>> we're one o trump. >> could you get the nra to budge on this? >> it's "this week." here now, chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> one week ago, america woke up to the devastating news, another mass murder. this time in orlando. for hillary clinton and donald trump, the first major test of with whether they have what it takes to lead america in a time of turmoil. the contrast was dramatic. hillary clinton in lock step with president and her party blaming oin toll rabs and easy access to military-grade guns. donald trump attacking hillary clinton and the president as weak. the answer is more restrictions on immigration and more guns. then, reaching out to gay americans and issuing a challenge to the nra. this week, trump took his message to texas. where he drew large and enthusiastic crowds. lines extending as far as the eye can see. houston. before thousands of spoerters in houston -- >> i love you, i love you, texas

nra. we're not afraid of the nra! >> that's the scene tonight on capitol hill. protesters speaking out against what many say is the biggest reason congress is not acting on gun legislation, the nra. here is what is happening inside the house. >> this microphone doesn't belong to paul ryan. this microphone doesn't belong to the nra. independent doesn't belong to the gun manufactures. this microphone they cut off belongs to the american people. >> so i say to the speaker, you need to do your job. and the nra, get the heck out of the way. >> joining me, two guests, following the gun issue and the nra. lois, i want to come to you. when i worked on capitol hill, there was plenty wrong with the place. but a group like nra seemed to execute so much overwhelming power. a lot of americans, do seem to think there is some sort of a political problem here. is that specific to the nh e ra? >> you have to member that the nra represents the views of the most passionate members, people who have skeptical

now, ebony, a lot more blaming the gop and nra than terrorists.l i'm actually completely offended by both of those covers. my profession as a criminal defense attorney is about holding people culpable and responsible for their actions and i think the victims here have to be disgusted. they're not interested in this blame game. to say it's the nra's fault, it's irresponsible and gross to me, but people are saying it's the far left because they let these people in the first place. no, no, no. this isn't one person's fault. the intentional bad actor that took 49 lives. >> your thought on the two ways that the media's treating this. >> well, you know, i am an nra member and i know many members who are very offended by the media coverage and blaming the nra as being the culprit of this terrorist attack. so many of our nra members are veterans, military, who have fought against radical islam abroad. they're simply law-abiding citizens who want to ensure they can defend their families and themselves. here's the deal. the media, everyone gets so emotional

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the nra has made it clear, they aren't budging on this. david? >> jon karl with us tonight from washington. >>> now, to the severe weather watch for 25 million americans at this hour, from wisconsin to tennessee. and a tornado watch just issued. 15 reported tornadoes in just the past 24 hours. this one here in southern minnesota. and heavy rain causing flash flooding, a terrible commute home for some. let's get right to meteorologist rob marciano, tracking it all for us tonight. hey, rob. >> reporter: hey, david. several pockets of dangerous weather happening right now, and big cities are in play. nashville just getting hit with some severe storms. 60-plus-mile-an-hour winds in indianapolis and there's that tornado watch across wisconsin until 11:00 tonight. it all rolls east tomorrow, the target zone is going to be pittsburgh, charleston, all the way to asheville, north carolina. the other big story is the big heat across much of the west. excessive heat watch out for southern california and the southwest. and you couple in the humiddy across th

it's more like republicans are in the underwear of the nra.radle the nra balls, and close enough to handle any of their beep. the democrats are also at fault. both sides agreed right before the debate to pass any bill they would need 60 votes. which neither side has. so, this whole ordeal in the senate was basically just for show. like the wwe, but here people are actually getting hurt. the question is what exactly were the bills that congress failed. something we will find out in our new game show about congress. it's called "let's do anything." >> welcome to "let's do anything." the game show about congress where even the slightest progress counts as a win. it couldn't be easier. today's topic guns, guns, guns, guns, guns ... guns. >> our first contestant playing for team democrats. >> i'm fighting for an america where all guns can go to the bathroom -- sorry my notes are mixed up. >> trevor: we're moving right on. our next contestant for republicans, jordan. >> thank you, trevor. america, family, fishing, heartland, baseball, flag pin, amer

a new report says the nra was blind-sided by trump's latest statement. we'll tell what you he's saying and what it could mean, but we're going to begin this hour with president obama in orlando. the president has been meeting privately with families of the victims acting once again as the consolener chief after this tragedy. nbc's chris jansing is live there. she's been covering this story all week so the president meeting as we said behind closed doors with families of these victims, chris. what do we know about what he's been saying and what he's been hearing from them? >> so much of these meetings, i know, from covering these in the past, steve, are really about listening. these families want the president to know and the vice president as well who the person was that they have lost, what they have lost and so much of it is about him asking questions about who they are, but it's also a promise that he has made and he'll continue to make to the families that the country stands behind them. they have felt this. we know that this community of orlando, pa

they promise to talk to the nra about gun control. and america's workplace policy still looks like they are straight out of mad men. hear shillue lament the fact that that is not true. and impersonating her elderly mother so she could take her driving test for her. i'm telling you right now, mom, do not get any ideas., tom. >> thank you, andy. let's welcome our guests. she loves joey lawrence and hates jennifer. obviously sexist. joanne nosuchunsky. it is such an honor to have with us the male voice of my gps. the national review staff writer charles cook. always a groom and never a best man. comedian kyle grooms. and he is the closest one on the panel to having an italian sub named after him. sitting next to me, the comedian and master beardman. we begin with guns. the secretary of homeland squatter says gun control is now a critical element of protecting our country. here is jay johnson on cbs this morning. >> meaningful and responsible gun control has to be part of homeland security as well given the prospect of homegrown and home

nra's lil lapdog.roduce my panel, we'll keep these pictures up. what do you think of this moment, gloria borger? >> i used to cover congress. and a while ago, and dana bash covered congress. i don't think either of us have ever seen, and mark preston covered congress, i don't think any of us have seen anything like this in the house of representatives. we're used to filibusters in the senate. but in the house, this was kind of a hostile takeover. >> i think the house -- the former house speaker, nancy pelosi, is speaking. let's take a listen. >> without you and the social media, without the technology -- [ inaudible ] -- they turned off the camera. they tried to shut down the congress. but because of you, the debate heard round the world. [ cheers and applause ] >> so that is nancy pelosi saying, you know, they cut off the camera, and if it wasn't for social media, we wouldn't be able to get this to you. and we have perry scope, and they cut off that. and on and on she went. and to the applause of the

the nra should think about that. we don't need assault rifles and they don't need to be in the hands of anyone but police man and military people. i am so proud of murphy and them trying to stand-up to them today but i knew it would fail because the republicans are owned by the nra. i don't care what these people call and tell you. they are totally, totally brainwashed by the nra. and i pray some day, i hope nothing happens to their children, but if they have been blown away like some of these people believe me they would pass these rules. they would be the first one. and god bless them and i hope this keeps on going. thank you for having this kind of show. it is so good to be on it. >> host: glad to have you with us. here is al in toledo, washington from the democrats line also. >> caller: retired petty officer who spent 30 years in the navy, always under arm, two years in vietnam. and i grew up hunting and fishing. spent five years as a scout master teaching kids how to use rifles at scout camps and the like. my ki

. >> a large group of people showed up to protest at nra headquarters in fairfax county after the senate failed to pass new legislation to curb gun sales. >> the senate will come to order. >> reporter: senate democrats demanded tougher gun laws in the wake of orlando. >> and my republican friends do nothing! >> reporter: but republicans oppose nun >> what we should be making this about is the fight to eliminate the islamic extremism that is the root cause for what happened in orlando. >> reporter: four proposals failed. >> the motion is not agreed to. >> reporter: democrats urged voters to punish republicans and the nra. >> mr. and mrs. america, you have to stand up. >> reporter: democrats back ending gun sales without background checks, banning sales to anyone on no fly or watch lists. in orlando, the killer, omar mateen had been taken off the watch list before he bought his assault weapon. trump said friday good people at the club should have had hand guns. >> strapped right here to their waist or to their ankle and go boom, boom, you know what? that would have been a beautiful, beauti

let the nra sell it. >> david? >> the reality is that gun legislation that's coming up tuesday in congress has already been up in december. and it failed both bills that came up in december failed. and there isn't the 60 votes to pass it this tuesday. even if it does, there is no indication the house is going to take it up. >> thank you nra. >> the reason for that is because senator feinstein's legislation wants to give all the control to the attorney general. >> you know what, david, i want to fight with him. it's not the nra. it's the second amendment. and it is a slippery slope. >> no, no. every amendment to the constitution is subject to reasonable interpret -- reasonable regulation put on by the government. background check is a reasonable -- >> if i want an ar-15 i should be able to have it. >> you are a law-abiding citizen, you should be able to have whatever you want. but if the you are a crazy tros or have members of the jury incapacities you shunt. >> it wouldn't have sofltd this problem. 91% of folks who

he wants them all to get money from the nra, not to have a bad rating from the nra.bers that would have to vote for it and these bills would be passing the house. >> all right. thank you both. i appreciate you taking time. i have the senior editor to msnbc and our chief legal correspondent who will be picking up coverage in a bit. here is the thing. no one wants the sentence voted to allow terrorists to buy guns. that's an impossible sentence. i think the congresswoman is correct about the fear of the politics on that that paul ryan has members that he wants to protect on this vote. >> i think you're right this is a situation where there is clear politics that lead to bad policy outcomes. if the government knew who were terrorists we could arrest them. >> that's not true. that's the problem. >> the thing is that we have this whole issue around gun control and who are the good people and bad people. you can't figure out who is a good or bad person so either yier going to have a general rule that people are allowed to have guns and then you will have lots of bad people

the nra's position on this issue has not changed, the nra believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. anyone on a terror watch lists who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the fbi and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. however, the nra calls for a due process protections and for law abiding americans who are wrongly put on the watch list to be removed. now, when asked wednesday to clarify trump's stance on guns, campaign spokeswoman hope hicks said he's already stated his position on this. he looks forward to what he thinks will be a productive meeting. >>> the day and night filibuster came as pat toomey was in negotiations on his gun control bill which michael bloomberg's group mayor against guns -- that's who he was in contention with. and dianne feinstein was crafting a measure two senator cornyn. both centered on bills that was voted down late last year. it failed 54-45 in december. >>> meanwhile, the senate homeland security committee was asking the fbi to turn over its files on the orlando gunman oma

i think the nra supports that 100%.y about, you have about 12,000 fbi agents across the country, we have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement. why, sean, is not the fbi filtering down these lists of these people on these terrorist lists where the local law enforcements, milwaukee county with the good sheriff, why isn't he getting the names of these people in his area so he can filter down and use his manpower to follow these guys if the fbi don't have the manpower? >> let me go back to this list. i'll just scroll it. we went through it earlier in the program. saudi arabia, kuwait, uae, brunei, all these countries, qatar, oman, algeria, that gave money to the clinton foundation. women, gays, women, lesbian, christians, jews, against all of them. >> what you have here, you have a president missing the point here. these are people who want us dead. >> sheriff, you look at that -- >> that's one of those failed policies i'm talking about. the fact that the fbi has their hands tied. this guy, omar mateen, was removed from

and you're pro-second amendment. >> and i'm pro-nra. they give me the earliest endorsement i think they have r given anybody. they have, i understand what they're saying. a lot of people are on the list that really maybe shouldn't be on the list. and their rights are become

because this meeting with the nra, donald trump. you think donald trump is looking at possibly changing gun laws in this country . >> i think it's actually frightening that you have the two presumptive nominees, one of whom is more than likely going to be president both say that they are for forms of gun control because when you talk about due process versus a constitutional right, you get on a very simple slope. how do you get on these lists? how do you get off these lists? not everyone of the people in these lists is a terrorist. when you become a terrorist? there are so many discussion to be had but i think otis gun works, that gun store in florida absolutely did something right and that's when for the private sector because when they see something, it's not like they're handing out high-powered rifles in junior high schools. they saw something, someone was suspicious and they said something. >> and they did something. >> what happened at that point is the big question? why three weeks before the attack was not what fell through?

the nra is here tonight to respond. all of that, plus herman cain. >>> tonight, contradicting the narrative that isis is being defeated. earlier today on capitol hill, the cia director john brennan issued a very stern warning about the islamic state. tonight is our very own catherine herridge. catherine? >> on capitol hill, the cia director said to expect more. >> our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach. the resources needed for terrorism are very modest and the group would have to suffer even heavier losses on territory, manpower and money for it is terrorist capacity to decline significantly. >> despite gains by the u.s.-led coalition, including the reduction of isis-held territory and cutting into the group's finances, the cia director said isis is lashing out to get trained operatives into western countries. >> to compensate for territorial loss, isis will rely on high-profile attacks outside the territory that it currently holds. >> reporter: the isis affiliate in libya has ex