that's, i think, the genesis of where the nra really becomes but the nra for many decades after that, let me caution say in the 1930s, the attorney general of the united states knew who the nra was in fighting the firearms legislation. they became very well aware what the nra was doing. the general american public however, wasn't. the nra was able to continue to do this for decades and it's not until jfk gets assassinated that the mayor -- is a wake up call and introduce the nra that we have come to know today that it's one that fights firearms laws. >> how do the marine become a historian for the u.s. air force? >> well, he went to the marine corps. was stationed overseas. was what we actually call a marine security guard, protect embassies, paris and shanghai, and from there i got the international faris bug and then went to george washington and george washington is probably the most political organization, or political university in the country. we've got the law bud, you know, one thing led to another to ignite myself back to the air force history but i'm very fortunate to be ser

they knew who the nra was. they became very well aware what the nr warvegs was doing tchl nra was able to continue to do this for decades. it's not until j.f.k. gets designated that the public gets introduced to the nra that we've come to understand today. >> how did a marine become a senior hitch for the air force? >> well, went to the marine corps, it was stationed overseas. it was a security guard, protected paris and shapg high. then i got the international affairs bug and went to george washington and george washington is probably the most political organization in the -- our political university in the country. y got the law bug and one thing led to another that led me back to the air force. i'm very fortunate to be serving with them, very lucky to served with a lot of these men and women. >> you mentioned your book "arld in america: a history of gun rights from cloeb al militias to concealed carry." if you could select one talking point, one take-away from your book, whatst it? >> welhat i hope people ta

the nra, one is became a political organization.ot focused on marksmanship and training the national guard. the second thing i would say is that in the 1950s and early '60s the nra officials repeatedly said they did not want to be a partisan organization. that is a disservice to the nra and the american people and today they are closely intertwined and bootstrapped to the republican party. >> and realize that state rights is one of the formations of our country but it is a patch work of gun laws back then and today. how does this influence or affect the role of the nra? >> well, it depends on when you're talking about. early on the federal government was not involved in gun laws whatsoever. gun laws were at a state or local level. primarily local. state laws would cover large swaths, maybe concealed carry, minors not shooting guns but the local laws governed all things that were minor to the town. that continued to be the standard rule of thumb until the 1930s when the federal government wanted to get involved with firearms laws and

aware of what the nra was doing. so the nra was able to do this for decades and it is not until jfk gets assassinated that the american public gets a wake up call and introduced to the nra that we have come to know today. but one that fights firearms laws. >> how did marine become a senior historian for the u.s. air force? >> he went to the marine corps, he was stationed overseas, he was a marine security guard in paris and shanghai. from there i got the international affairs bud and went to george washington. george washington is probably the most political organization or political university in the country. i got the law bud and one thing led to another to lead myself back to the air force and history. but i am very fortunate to be serving with them and very lucky to have served with a lot of these people. >> you mentioned at the top of our conversation, the title is armed in america. the history of gun rights from colonial missions -- militias to concealed carry. if you could select one talking point, one take aw

that wouldn't help the nra. the lawyers involved in the case were a group of three libertarian lawyers who had no real substantial connections with the gun rights movement, had not argued or litigated gun cases before. they suspected that maybe the nra was fearful actually of winning, that the nra, they told me in interviews, the nra survives on crisis-driven fundraising that warns gun owners that government is coming to get your guns. the supreme court said the government can't come to get your guns, what would that do to the nra crisis-driven fundraising. whatever the reason, it's clear that nra fought tooth and nail to keep this case from going to the supreme court. >> so you were talking earlier about people using guns for personal protection being one of our oldest, most established rights, but the supreme court hadn't ruled as you said on the definitive meaning of the second amendment. if the supreme court never ruled on it and it's been more than two centuries since the bill of rights was created, why is

here >> let me begin with the origins of the nra. the national rifle association, how does the organization come about and why? >> well it came about after the civil war and where there is poor marksmanship by the union still soldiers and two officers start to form the nra. for two purposes, one is to facilitate build and grow long range rifle ranges. the other one too was assist the state national guards and marksmanship. and the nra initially just so you know was kind of a working to get appropriations by the government and they started off with one organization there were 1700 by 19. gfkç29. they also are just so you know, built on there was the english national rifles association. and that was a predecessor this was mostly the american version. so the difference in the two to start off with was this franchise like model, and you could start with the rifle club locally or statewide. those rifle clubs would then compete in local and national events. >> with the founder of the recognize would the founder of the nra recognize the nra

of the nra. that's a national restaurant association. and in texas when you say nra, it's only the national rifle association. can you give a little historical background on the nra and guns and gun control, its creation? i read that it was once supporter of gun control. can you explain that? >> yeah. i mean, the nra today is known for being a very rarely compromising opponent of gun control. but it really wasn't always this way. the organization was founded after the civil war by two union soldiers who were convinced that poor union marksmanship was why the war lasted so long and wanted to improve marksmanship training. in the 1920s and '30s, the nra drafted and endorsed gun control laws, restrictive laws requiring anyone to have a license and only allowing the licenses to go to people who were suitable people with a proper reason for carrying firearms. in fact in the 19 -- i did research and found in 1934 when the federal government, congress passed its first major federal government control, t

and how does that influence or affect the role of the nra? >> well, it depends when you're talking about. early on the federal government was not involved in gun laws whatsoever. gun laws were either a state or local level, primarily local. state laws would cover broad swaths of areas and maybe concealed carry, minors not shooting guns. but the local laws governed all things that were-mile-per-hour to the town. that continued to be the standard rule of thumb until the 1930s. >> so which sfat or states passed the first laws and when? >> that's a difficult question. i mean if you're looking at gun laws it goes back to the colonies back in the 18th century. you can find or even the early 17th century there's a couple of gun laws in the books. but those laws are basically either about gunpowder storage, where or where you cannot carry a gun, what kinds of weapons you could or could not have. how far you could fire away from and most laws said you couldn't fire or shoot a rifle within a quarter mile of a town. so those were the early gun laws. tho

but, armed in america governor roosevelt decided -- when governor roosevelt vetoed the legislation, nra ramped up its efforts. they started putting advertisement for recruitment that was expresses -- expressly targeted at fighting firearms laws. they created ten objectives, the first three relate to fire -- fighting firearms legislation. i think that is the genesis where the nra really becomes, but for many decades -- let me caution and say that in the 1930s the tierney general

the national firearms museum is at nra headquarters in fairfax, virginia. we've been in this location for about 15. we're custodians of about 7,000 firearms. we have about 3,000 on display here and about a thousand more that the nra national sporting arms museum in springfield, missouri. what i want people to come away from the museum with beyond the wow, that's a lot of cool guns which is very important to us, but it's an understanding of that unique relationship between american and their firearms, and very integral role firearms have played in the history of america. we have phil, a senior curator here at the national firearms museum. mr. peterson was a magazine publisher and had one of the finest if not the finest firearms collection in the country. and what you see it is the peterson galilee which has been called the finest single room of firearms in the country. >> the music as jim said picked what we could display and that equalled about 425 guns. perhaps one of the finest he donated was the grand royal winchester model 21. it was considered the best

when people ask me, what is in the nra museum?there are always two guns that i discuss as bookends that illustrate these type of guns we have. this is one of them. this is a we'll lock -- a complicated firearm. it came over on the mayflower with pilgrim john all done. i explain what we have in the museum. i say we go from one of the very first firearms on the northeastern american continent and we go through to a revolver that was required from the ashes of the world trade center, and everything in between. as we said earlier, we try to design and build the museum with display cases, galleries that are evocative of the time during which the arms were used. here we are in the colonial house. you might find at williamsburg. it tells the story of the early canal colonial period and the war of independence, 1775 to 1781. we are looking right now at a painting, which we actually had to go to london england to find. it is got -- it is one of the most beautifully rendered illustrated descriptions of the very first shots fired at lexingto

it is at nra headquarters in fairfax, virginia. now the museum has existed for nearly 80 years and we've been in this location for about 15. we're custodians about 7,000 firearms donated to us or lent to us over the past 75 years. we have about 3,000 on display here. and about a thousand more at the nra national sporting arms museum in springfield, missouri. what i want people to come away from the museum with, beyond the wow, that is a lot of cool guns, which is very important to us. but it is an understanding of that unique relationship between americans and their firearms and the very integral role that firearms have played in the history of america. we have phil schreier, senior curator here at the national firearms museum and we're starting in the robert e. peterson gallery. mr. peterson was a magazine publisher and had one of the finest if not the finest firearms collection in the country. and what you see is the petersen gallery called the finest single room of firearms anywhere in the country. out of 2011 firearms left, the

. >> is what the nra is saying, the nra believes voters who recently purchased guns for self-defense will join other second amendment voters into a more formidable voting block of anti-gun politicians are the biggest threat to their fundamental right to self defense but what specifically are the nra and other groups like it doing to get out the vote, search their message come november? >> we have always been focused on are no compromise policy, not only is the second amendment available for self-defense but in doing, it is not only those two important things, but being able to preserve our right to go against a tyrannical government and that is what we are seeing amid the covid-19 time. we are seeing that we want to push the gunboat like we've always done before like earlier in january where we had hundreds of thousands of people in virginia's state capital ready to push for their second amendment rights and we are to push that in senate races in montana and colorado where it's very important we get the gun vote out so we will see that as we approach november. todd: it will be fascin

byy are completely supported most members of the nra. first thing we are going to do mcconnell's mitch desk and we are going to pass the violence against women act. of threehe mother small kids and they have to go through school shooting drills, something i never thought i would have to see as a mother. at the same time, i am somebody who fought for this country. second amendment and im a gun owner. we should start with something that most gun owners agree should happen. that is better background checks. we all want to keep weapons out of the hands of people who are going to hurt our kids, our children and us. that is the first step and it is something that mitch mcconnell will not take action on. , the cdc and nih think thisble and i is something that should definitely be done. that hest unbelievable will not act on that. those are just some of the things that i would do. stresst, i would like to that this is very personal to me. i am speaking for a lot of people who do not get heard. all across this commonwealth, people who understand

there is no nra here. there is no organized group whose mission it is, to stand in the way of this. i think what the president has put forward is a great first step. tim scott's has a lot of merit. it's not a political gotcha. it's their best view of what should be done so we don't see these atrocities that we have seen. do i have reason to think this will bring people together and get a bill signed into law? i actually do. in this environment it's not often a good bet to be optimistic but i actually think there is some basis for that here. >> harris: i wonder how much defund the police rhetoric that's come from those on the left side of the aisle, richard, will get into the brew. gentlemen, we'll take a commercial break. we're still working out the difficulties to bring you live from the white house a press briefing. a suspect now under arrest for the brutal attack of an elderly woman in new york city. "the new york post" dubs him a menace to society. what we know about the suspect's history next. can my side be firm? and my side super soft? yes, with the sleep number 360 smart bed

because he's in the pocket of the gun industry and the nra.hese are laws that are the etely supported by american people, even most members of the nra. when i go to the senate the going to do isre clear out mitch mcconnell's checks andbackground pass violence against women act. >> ms. mcgrath? of three 'm marry small kids and my kids have to shooting school drills, something i never thought that i would have to see mother. time, i'm at the same somebody who fought for this country. start with hould most of the things most gun owners agree should happen. gun owners and nongun owners agree and that's better background checks. want to keep weapons out of the hands of people who are and our hurt our kids children and us. and so that's the first step and that omething, you know, senator mitch mcconnell won't beenaction on because he's bought off by special interests. cdc actions, the nih and should be able to study gun violence as a health concern. something initely that should be done the violence against women act hat's been sitting on senator mc

the laws are completely supported by the american people, even most members of the nra. to first thing we are going do is clear off mitch mcconnell desk and pass the violence against women act. >> i'm a mother of three small kids, and my kids have to go through school shooting drills, something i never thought that i would have to see as a mother. time, i'm somebody who fought for this country. i was a marine for 20 years. i am pro-second amendment, i'm a gun owner. we got to start with that think that most gun owners agree should happen. and that is a better background check. we all want to keep weapons out of the hands of people who are going to hurt our kids and our children and us. and so that is the first step, something that senator mitch mcconnell won't take action on because he is bought by special interests. the cdc and the nih should be able to study gun violence as a health concern. the violence against women act, it has been sitting on senator desk, it is unbelievable that he will not act on that. those are just some of the things i would do. >> mr. booker, s

the main problem in gun violence is dealing with the political clout of the nra and we need to be very clear in this moment, the reason we haven't made more progress in san francisco or on these issues is because police unions and the poa are the common sense police reform what the nra is to gun safety regulations. don't take my word. pay attention to black lives matter and cofounders have been saying, what their zero policy arm has been talking about. talk to officers in san francisco. on prop h, i appreciate the change of position in the last couple of weeks, but we need to remember just how radical that special interest measure from the poa was. i have worked on police reform for 35 years and i can say with great confidence there is not a police union in this country that tried to pass a special interest measure to strip the governing authority, here the police commission of the chief, of the authority to actually regulate a dangerous weapon. and that's why, if fact, it was opposed vigorously by mayor farrell, all three candidates for mayor, by majority of the police commission and

these are laws that are completely supported by the american people even most members of the nra . when igo to the senate , the first thing were going to do is clear out miss mcconnell's desk and have background checks andpass the violence against women act . .>> miss mcgrath. >> i'm a mother of three small kids and my kids have to go through school shooting drills, something i never thought that i would have to see as a mother. at the same time, i'm somebody who fought for this country. i was a marine for 20 years and i'm pro-second amendment, i'm a gun owner and i think we ought to start with the things most gun owners agree should happen. most gun owners and non-gun owners agree that isa better background check . we all want to keep weapons out of the hands of people who are going to hurt kids and our children and us. and so that is the first step and it's something that senator mitch mcconnell will take action on because he's bought off by professional interests. i think other actions, the cdc and nih should be able to study gun violence as ahealth concern . this is definitely

thjust quoted in press today saying that the police unions in this country are to poce reform whatthe nra is to gun control. there a toxic influence on any effort to hold police accountable or to reform the way that we engage with law enforcement. >> you know the union spent a lot of money against you the november election. this week you and other das proposed banning unions from funding prosecutors. g who is goto be making that decision, and what is the tiline? >> i want to be clear on wh we proposed. the supreme court of the atunit has interpreted the first amendment in a way that allows unions including police unions to spend unlimited moneyo influencinl elections. nothing in the proposal seeks what we are doing is asking the state bar and the american bar association to prohibit candidates for district ritorney or current di attorneys from seeking political or financial support. -- directly from police unns. it is to avoid a conflict of interest that presents itself every single time the district attorney's office like my own is tasked with investceating an of force or murder. use >>

movement and the community movement because he knows they pushback with the interest groups like the nra and drugs companies and wall street he has sworn to obey. >> that makes sense. we are coming up on time this our flu lot on - - by thank you for taking the time to speak with us this afternoon and have an opportunity any thoughts for the audience before we leave? >> thank you. i applied to stanford long time ago and got waitlisted but i got over it sort of but it's an honor to speak to all of you. i hope so much that you listen to some of the questions clearly from the viewpoint to pursue a life and occupational life of justice and there are so many things to have the privilege of going to stanford and not knowing your background and to earn that privilege for a great majority of you. and to make that a fair and better place with racial disparities in your some of the best situated to do that. thank you for having me especially. >> clearly it was stanford's loss we didn't get you but thank you again the chaplain: let us pray. lord god, have mercy upon our nation for the winds of suffe

that spectacle of lawlessness effectively did more to end gun control than anything the nra could ever dream of. you are watching more people buy guns than ever before and i include myself in that. so that gets to my last point that i wanted to say at the end of the letter a block. when trump does something considered good, what is the criticism? well he should have done it sooner. he should have shut down travel center. he should have shut down the city center. well, then my neighborhood wouldn't have been destroyed and decimated and i wouldn't be looking at people trying to rebuild their lives. media could have been done sooner, and how would you feel if your neighborhood was destroyed? you know what, great example, chris palmer. he tweeted, while rioters burned it down low-income housing, he tweeted burn it all down. and then when the rioters got to his gated community, he called the cops. see the shift? everybody can talk about and wax romantic about the movement and how we need systemic change, because it means nothing until they get to your door and then it all goes out the windo

difficult on gun violence prevention people overwhelmingly 95 percent prefer background checks but the nrand gun manufacturers prevent that from happening so the question really is a transformational moment on racial justice on the pandemic in terms of healthcare congress has to be at least on par with the american people not within a special interest. >> i thank you are right not sensationalism with that pandemic that let me say that loved ones family and friends that the challenges is the misinformation and that's a challenge that cannot be solved. >> thank you very much you are all phenomenally busy thank you for spending some of your valuable time on such an important topic. doctor stokes, your work with human beings who are sick or fear getting sick. you are up against so much. a special thank you for everything you have done in the very best to stay healthy and strong and your contributions to this conversation have added so much i hope members of the senate and congress will keep that in mind as they go about their business the experience that you have had glad working with fuzz fee

some are questioning the couple's motives, even calling them racist but radio host and former nra spokespersona lash says the far left is always looking for excuses to attack the second amendment. >> there is no evidence there racist. they are just homeowners that wanted to protect their property, you can't tell me after watching weeks of violence and arson and distraction and all that broadcast and your home that you see a rage mob coming down your street and think something good comes of it. i want to remind everyone on kings highway just on the road david doran was murdered by violent writers and 15 minutes away is the statue of st. louis, people i getting beaten up for protesting or counter protesting and hoping the statue remains where it is. this is what defunding the police looks like, this is what the second amendment looks like. jillian: your dana mentioned defunding the police, bill that was you announcing he wants to cut the nypd budget by $1 million. >> there has been a very intense detailed focused discussion over the last month on how we change policing. my office presented to ci

imagine a big city mayor naming a major thoroughfare nra avenue or planned parenthood boulevard.s impressive in a way, but black lives matter wasn't satisfied by it, not even close. the d.c. chapter released a statement attacking mayor bowser for not giving complete control of the city's police department. "this is to appease white liberals while ignoring our demands. black lives matter means defund the police. got that? black lives matter means defund the police. so that's what black lives matter means. no one really explains that. now we know with intel and pepsi and amazon are supporting when they send money. defunding the police. suddenly it feels like all the adults have gone to saint barth's and turned off their cell phones. who was running this country? who's in charge? anyone? yet amazingly, some republicans in washington seem giddy as they watch the country go insane. democrats have gone too far this time, they will tell you. we are guaranteed to win in november. probably gotten text to of that affect recently from friends. sounds good, but they are wrong. they are total

what was it, ten cases that the nra and gun groups wanted to be heard by the supreme court, and what happened to those cases? they weren't heard. the supreme court wouldn't listen to them. so all the things donald trump has been promising when it comes to guns not coming to fruition at all. they didn't get a negative ruling from donald trump's conservative supreme court. they didn't even get in the front door on guns as well. so if you're thinking i'm voting for donald trump because i'm going to get justices that are going to help on second amendment rights and make it more expansive and go beyond heller and also going to be a champion for, quote, traditional families, well, those are two of the three main cultural issues where the supreme court this week, with two donald trump picks said, no. no. we're not going the way that evangelicals or conservative gun owners want us to go. >> yeah, and alicia menendez, we just showed the cross tabs the places where donald trump is doing so poorly except for among white people with no college degree, a big lead there. but a key number, a basic

collection of marchers or science or a conventional political lobbyist planned parenthood with the nra is not pressuring congress with a new set of laws. "black lives matter" is far more ambitious than that. it is working to remake the country and then to control it. it is a political party. as of tonight, "black lives matter" may be the most single powerful party in the united states. nobody said that out loud but politicians understand it perfectly well. if nothing else they understand power because i can smell it at great distance. that is why they are lining up to bow before "black lives matter." >> you can't really reform the department that is rotten to the root. >> we heard our people cry out, "i can't breathe." we heard our people stand out from a "black lives matter." this is a systemic problem that requires a comprehensive solution. >> what i would say is there is a legitimacy with anger. and outrage. >> none of what you saw is a stretch for democrats. they believe long-term goals align with those with "black lives matter" and at times they function as an arm of the democrati

that was the one time the nra tried to ban guns, take away some of our rights for guns.one time and that's frustrating. i try -- i'm all about the second amendment right. it is frustrating when you see these articles, things pop up. and the weight people put on seeing this image of me, vurgss all the images of white men doing the same thing. again, i'm not mad add the white people, it's just frustrating they see this and run with it. >> is the autonomous zone over? have police entered the area? is this coming to an end? >> it's not an autonomous zone, never was. and that was another media thing. out of nowhere we see a sign pop up, autonomous zone, chaz and things that say chaz. and news casters right there videotaping it. i want to ask everyone that was there, did you call it chaz? did you put that up? no one did. >> let's not get hung up on this. are people leaving? is this coming to an end? >> i think a lot of people are leaving. again, i just listen to what people say and i try to convey a message and put that out there. i think there are a few people are going to tr

it would be like the nra writing something that had to do with a pro-life issue.lly doesn't happen so much on the right but the left tensed all work together. that should be a little bit of a boost for the campaign. it could also tell republicans to watch out. if you're concerned that biden would actually be pulled even further to the left once he's in office, that might make trump people even more motivated to get out to vote. >> juan: good point. okay, dagen come at the moment it's like 68% of white voters same this is more than just the george floyd shooting. it's not an isolated incident. there is a proble broad probleme way police deal with black americans. is trump and the g.o.p. missing an opportunity by not tapping into the needs and the desire on the part of the american people for real reform? >> dagen: what he announced earlier today was real reform. you can collect an executive order but president obama five years ago after the michael brown shooting in ferguson, missouri, rolled out 59 recommendations, not a law, for better policing and building publi

the post shows a man wearing a nra hat dining on the patio saturday. the man was taunting and heckling hateful comments at a group of peaceful demonstrators marching past during a black lives matter. >> i went to the table and told him to leave immediately. >> i don't know if i need to close my doors tomorrow. i don't know if someone is going to break into my home. i don't know if someone is going to be throwing rocks at my restaurant right now. >>he terrified of csi again because they already lost roughly half a million dollars during the stay-at-home period. >>> the number of cases in california thankfully have stabilized and the virus is still a real threat. the governor says the number of infected people in the hospital has remained stable over a two-week period. he says only about 4.5% of people tested have been positive for coronavirus and newsom says as the state reopens, we will see an increase in cases. however, he says forcing people to remain isolated any longer threatens their physical and mental health and also their finances. >>> happenin

movement and weaken the union movement because he knows they push back on his interest groups, the nra, the drug companies, wall street, to whom mcconnell has sworn obeyence. >> makes sense. we're coming up on time. this hour flew by. senator brown, i wanted to thank you again for taking the time to speak with us this afternoon and give you an opportunity to share any final thoughts for our audience before we leave. >> just thank you. i was going to say -- i wasn't going to say this but i am. i applied to stanford and got wait listed and ended up to the school that suzanne went to. i got over it. i hope so much that you listen to some of the questions that were asked clearly from a viewpoint of pursuing a life and an occupational life if you will of justice and there's so many things that the privilege of going to stanford, stanford graduate school, not knowing what your backgrounds were, of course, to be able to get that privilege and earn that privilege for the great majority of you. i hope you'll use that for public health that suzanne asked about in making this country, a fairer, b

themnell does not want too because he is in a pocket of the gun industry and the nra.hese are completely supported by the american people. senate, the the first thing we are going to do is to clear out mitch mcconnell's desk and we will pass the violence against women act. lt. col. mgrath: i am a mother of three small kids and my kids have to go through school shooting drills, something i never thought i would have to see as a mother. someoneame time, i am who fought for this country. i was a marine for 20 years and i am pro-second amendment and i'm a gun owner. we should start with the things that most gun owners agree should happen. that is a better background check. weapons outto keep of the hands of people who are going to hurt our kids and children. that is the first step and it is something senator mitch mcconnell will not take action on because he is bought off by special interest. other actions, the nih should be able to study gun violence as a health concern. this is something that should be done. the violence against women act that is sitting on senator mccon

of course you have the nra opposing in those situations. so we'll watch this. thank you very much. >>> we are hearing from the family of a black man who uttered the words, i can't breathe, before he died during an arrest last year in texas. javier ambler died in austin, this in march 2019. the body camera footage was released this week and it's -- well, poppy, it's alarming to watch. >> very. ed lavandera brought this reporting this yesterday and then he sat down with the parents. what did they tell you? >> good morning. what is staggering here is none of this would have come to light had it not been for local reporting here in the austin area. that brought -- that broke the story of this video and the case of javier ambler which didn't generate a whole lot of headlines when he died in march of last year. when we spoke with the family it was stunning to hear them talk about how little information they have received in more than the last year as they continue to wait for answers. maristza and javier, they learned last week that this stemmed, the traffic stop tha

that americans by and large believe we need sensible gun laws, but we can't get there because of the nrawe can't get to police reform because of the fraternal order of police. at every turn, they will say out loud that things like racial profiling doesn't exist. they will protect and defend police officers. they are the ones who will make sure that the killer of tamir rice, not only do they call tamir rice menacing in the price, but they make sure that police officer after he is fired gets hired someplace else. we all have police chiefs that will stand behind reforms all to see the fraternal order of police work to slow down the actual -- work to slow down responses to calls in neighborhoods. this is what they do. so unless politicians get clear, don't take their money, stand up against them, we will continue to get policies on the books, policies that are good, but policies we can't enforce. that doesn't make any of our lives better. >> jessica, i have heard a version of what rashad is saying which is this is no longer about the conversation about which reforms you need to put in place,

a man wearing an nra hat dining on the patio on saturday. the man was allegedly taunting and heckling comments at a group of peaceful protesters marching past during a black lives matter rally. he condoned his behavior even high fiving him but the server says just the opposite. >> i went to the table and i told him, shut up and leave immediately. >> i don't know if i need to close my doors tomorrow. i don't know if someone's going to break into my home. i don't know if someone is thro. >> the owners say they're terrifying of closing again because they already lost roughly half a million dollars during the stay-at-home period. >>> the number of covid-19 cases in california has stabilized, but governor newsom is warning the virus is a real threat. the number of infected people in the hospital remains stable over the last two-week period and he says only 4.5% of people tested have been positive for coronavirus. newsom says as the state reopens, we will see an increase in cases, but he says forcing people to remain isolated any longer threatens

don't know in their own communities, police unions are as powerful at the local level as, say, the nra is at the national level. they have that much sway over politicians, over mayors, over governo governors. and so if any of these things, any of these changes are going to happen, there's going to have to be buy-in not just from, you know, rank and file police als unions. and then the next big battle, if you will, to come is going to be when police contracts expire and those mayors have to go and bargain with those unions for the next contract. this is going to be a marathon. this is not going to be a sprint. this is not going to be -- or cannot be, i should say, the result of an executive order here or one change in law there. if we are to see the changes, a lot of them common sense changes that needed to be made in policing, that will then have incredible benefits at the community level, there's going to have to be a sustained effort to get them done. >> nicole, "the new york times" this morning wrote about a conversation that george floyd had with friends when he was a teenager. he

i don't think it is just the nra crowd. by the way is it too late to buy those stocks?cuss that too. we'll be right back. charles: how many? riots still erupting across major u.s. cities causing businesses to take drastic measures. in new york city the saks fifth avenue store guarded by dogs, folks. professionally boarded up with chain-link fence, topped with razor wire. maybe it is a perfect visual that shatters the myth of urban oasis friendly, inclusive to all races and hopefully chatter for all. bring in fox news contributor deneen borelli. i think stevie wonder got it right in the long, living for the city almost 30, 40 years ago, this idea that these big cities were going to be oasis for folks never materialized. >> well you can't have an oasis without law and order, charles. and look, you got to look at the local level officials, politicians, namely de blasio and cuomo pointing fingers at each other and the utter nonsense of destruction that has taken place in new york city. i was on the streets of new york yesterday, around that same area. i had an appointment.

2015 and when trump unexpected arrived and took a question from maria, the spy, who pretended to be nra. shesat in jail for over 18 monts and marie is sentenced to 18 years. back to trump's accomplishments or his tweets, i'm reading -- i'm reading a tweet, okay, from trump, july 5, 2018. now he says it like it is. i have broken more elton john records. he seems to have a lot of records and i by the way -- i don't have a musical instrument. i don't have a guitar or an organ, no organ. elton has an organ and lots of other people helping. now, we've broken virtually every record because you know, look, i only need this space, they need much more room for basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room, we don't need it. >> rose, i will leave it there and we will get a response from our guest. thank you for joining us this morning? >> you know, he's an actor of hyperbole. when i interviewed him he said he would be the most popular person in europe if it wasn't asking them to pay their fair share. this is what people like about him. so i think we are going to continue t

he supported raising the age the buy a rainfall and ifle and he fight the nra. it wasn't long that he backed off all of that. congress was only able to pass very tiny changes to the gun background check system. ahead of the president's remarks republican leaders seem to be signaling a big openness to kplo compromise perhaps reflecting a knowledge that public attitudes have shifted dramatically. nancy pelosi made that remark when she spoke about police reform efforts. >> yesterday, when i chatted with the family before the hearing, george's brother said to me, i have a question for you. is this going to happen? is there going to be a bill that is passed and why do you think so? it's a question that many of you have but coming from him, it was -- it had power. i had an answer. yes, it will be passed because the public insists upon it. >> when the house's top republican kevin mccarthy spoke with reporters, he would not criticize the democrat legislation to overall policing. he came out in support of a ban on police choke hold which is is in that bill that the democ