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nra argued. although it's technically a sales tax, the amount is passed through to state residents with each purchase of such items, nra released a statement saying, in part, california's firearm excise tax is a blatant and egregious attack on the rights of californians and a calculated maneuver to dismantle the second amendment. >> we need people to remember to stay safe near the water line, get too close to tide can take you. >> fire officials put out more warnings about the dangers of open water, as people seek relief from the heat on the coast, and all that fallout continues for the biden campaign. >> since the debate still ahead, the very latest report about the possibility that president biden will drop out of the ♪ hey, come on, come on ♪ ♪ do what you want ♪ get into an audi and go your own way. find your way to exceptional offers during the summer of audi sales event at you local audi dealer. ♪ hey, come on, come on ♪ ♪ do what you want ♪ get into an audi and go your own way. find your w

it became a state law on monday, but the nra and other organizations say the tax is unconstitutional.he nra argued although it's technically a sales tax, the amount is passed through to the state residents with each purchase of such items. the nra released a statement saying in part, california's firearms excise tax is a blatant and egregious attack on the rights of californians and a calculated maneuver to dismantle the second amendment. >> a new report shows that google's falling short of its ambitious plan to make its global operations greener. a newly released environmental report shows. the tech giant is nowhere near reaching net zero by 2030. its emissions grew 13% in 2023 over the previous year. compared to 2019, emissions are up 48. google executives say that ai and the demand it puts on data centers is contributing to the increase. >> ai can be a force that increases emissions, and ai can be a force that decreases emissions. it's up to us as humans to watch what we're doing with it and to question why we're doing that. >> according to the international energy agency, global d

chuting chin stuff as he looks upon the the adulating crowd, um, he... represents the the bible belt, the nra people, all of that, those all included in his support, but that's all a paradox, mike, because he's the least evangelical, the least christian you could imagine, let me just say for those watching before the watershed, donald trump is a party kind of guy, and i don't mean the republican party, i mean a party, party party kind of guy as out of kilter with the evangelical fanatics touching his robe uh hoping to uh to gain some spiritual advantage from doing so or imagining uh that an angel came down uh in pennsylvania and uh stopped the bullet from hitting him in the head as it very nearly did. neither is he uh any kind of um right-winger, he was a child of the new york liberal establishment, he spent his life amongst them, he made four separate donations to camela harris's election funds in california when she was running uh to be attorney general and then when... she was running to be senator and she accepted the money uh by the way, and she may even have met donald that one or two o

chin stuff as he looks upon the the adulating crowd, um, he represents the the bible belt, um, the nra people, all of that, those that all included in his support, but who else, and that's all a paradox, mike, because he's the least evangelical, the least christian you could imagine, let me just say for those watching before the watershed, donald trump is a party kind of guy, and i don't mean the republican party, i mean a party, party, party kind of guy. as out of kiltar with the evangelical fanatics touching his robe uh hoping to to gain some spiritual advantage from doing so or imagining uh that an angel came down uh in pennsylvania and uh stopped the bullet from hitting him in the head does it very nearly did neither is he uh any kind of um right-winger, he was a child of the new york liberal establishment, he spent his life amongst them, he made four separate donations to camala harris's election funds in california when she was running uh to be attorney general and then when she was running to be senator and she... accepted the money uh by the way, and she may even have met donal

brady bill would find another powerful, an unlikely advocate in the first president endorsed by the nra president ronald reagan ronald reagan's support of the brady bill was a surprise to many he had been the most forceful president in american history for the second amendment right to bear arms james and in sarah brady, they really push for sensible gun laws after he was gravely injured. >> did that change your dad? >> it did. >> i think he felt responsible hinckley literally shot other people out of the way. >> i know my father felt like, well, their lives wouldn't have been changed in shattered like this if it weren't for me former president reagan wrote an opinion piece in the new york times titled why i'm for brady bill that gave members of congress republican and democrat cover to be able to say, well, here is president reagan, someone who is himself a survivor of gun violence? >> and who is a friend of the national rifle association saying that this law should be passed finally, in 1993, the break the bill became the law of the land and an assault weapons ban followed closely beh

how why, and it’s just a coincidence, people who are either members of the national rifle association nra so , so to speak, try to drive them all there. honor of aliaks , king abdullah i of jordan was shot dead in jerusalem. the shooter was a palestinian mustafa ashu, a tailor who was part of the underground arab dynamite group. as it turned out, he killed abdalo because he wanted to make a separate peace with israel. on july 26 , 1957 , guatemalan president carlos armas was killed with several shots to the chest. the shooter was romeo san, a palace guard. after which he shot himself. armos' successors did not investigate. on january 27 , 605, in tehran on bukharastan square, three islamic extremists from the fedayane islam group shot and killed a thirty-two-year-old iranian prime minister hassan al-mansour. mansour was appointed by the shah of iran under direct pressure from us president lyndon johnson. on march 25, 75 , king faisal ben abdulaziz of saudi arabia was shot and killed. the killer was his nephew , prince faisel ben musaad. he declared that he was fulfilling the will of allah

they make the nra look moderate. the firearms policy coalition. they support the abolition of apf. they think there should be zero regulations on guns up to and including machine guns. these are the people that have clarence thomas' ear. convincing him to mangle the plain text of this law and the original meaning. we want this to be brought, we want to encompass tools, and clarence thomas says, i'm going to trust the anti-gun loonies. they say atf experts don't know how machine guns work, but we do. >> this is the exact example of, it doesn't matter what the law says. >> it literally doesn't matter. this was a statutory case. not a constitutional case. so he could not even pull his originalism but interpret it how he wants. >> we are going to turn to former president trump's immunity in cases. we are going to do this quickly. and follow these fabulous journalists. yes, please. it takes considerable courage, diligence, integrity to do the reporting and be on the ground. one quick note, as we transition, thinking about bruin and dobbs, bruin was released the day before dobbs. justice

but judge joel cohen did ban former nra head, wayne lapierre, from working there for 10 years.came during the second phase of a civil case brought by new york attorney general letitia james. during the first phase earlier this year, a jury found that lapierre had mis-spent millions of nra dollars on personal expenses. he was ordered to repay more than $4 million. us health regulators approved the first blood test for colon cancer today. it's called shield, and it's intended for adults aged 45 and older. the test detected 83% of cancers, according to a study published earlier this year. but it's not a replacement for colonoscopies, which are still preferred by doctors. colorectal cancer is the second most-common form of cancer deaths in the u.s., expected to kill more than 53,000 people this year alone. on wall street today, stocks ended mostly unchanged, as investors look ahead to wednesday's federal reserve meeting. the dow jones industrial average lost about 50 points, so just a fraction lower. the nasdaq added 12 points, ahead of some major tech earnings this week. the s&p 5

what the nra the arguments that the nra makes today, the second amendment right to carry guns and and that tends to be denied by white reactionaries. all right. let me tell you what we're going to do we're coming our 1:00 hour we have. so many more questions we have already made an agreement with fergus that he would do a bonus round for about 10 minutes after the after hour. but we also respect that many our people who are on the call are on their lunch hour. and you need sign off and be respectful. we thank you every single one of you who's joined. and we want you to know this webinar is recorded. it will be available on our website. it's we also want to encourage you to go out by the book because as you can tell, there's a lot more to the story than going to get in this one hour. but we really appreciate fergus you giving us your time to do this. and we appreciate of our listeners because the united states capitol historical society, while chartered by congress is funded by the members and the donors. and each and every one of you, as you come to the end of the year thinking about

but judge joel cohen did ban former nra head, wayne lapierre, from working there for 10 years.uling came during the second phase of a civil case brought by new york attorney general letitia james. during the first phase earlier this year, a jury found that lapierre had mis-spent millions of nra dollars on personal expenses. he was ordered to repay more than $4 million. u.s. health regulators approved the first blood test for colon cancer today. it's called shield, and it's intended for adults aged 45 and older. the test detected 83% of cancers, according to a study published earlier this year. but it's not a replacement for colonoscopies, which are still preferred by doctors. colorectal cancer is the second most common form of cancer deaths in the u.s., expected to kill more than 53,000 people this year alone. in olympics news, novak djokovic bested longtime rival rafael nadal in a showdown today. it was the 60th match between the two tennis legends and possibly their last. the outcome ends nadal's singles run in paris but he will still compete in doubles. in gymnastics, the am

chin stuff as he looks upon the the adulating crowd, um, he represents the the bible belt, um, the nra people, all of that, those that all included in his support, but who else, and that's all a paradox. because he's the least evangelical, the least christian you could imagine, let me just say for those watching before the water. said, donald trump is a party kind of guy, and i don't mean the republican party, i mean a party, party, party kind of guy, as out of kilter with the evangelical fanatics, touching his robe, hoping to to gain some spiritual advantage from doing so, or imagining uh that an angel came down uh in pennsylvania and uh stopped the bullet from hitting him in the head as it very nearly did. neither is he uh any kind of um right winger. he was a child of the new york liberal establishment. he spent his life amongst them. he made four separate donations to camela harris's... election funds in california when she was running uh to be attorney general and then when she was running to be senator and she accepted the money uh by the way and she may even have met donald at o

bill, the ira bill, getting the price of prescription drugs down for the first time going against the nrassfully and helping our veterans with burn pits so he's had an amazingly successful record, and he's always done what's right for america, and ri respect him. i respect his patriotism. i respect the amazing things he's done. we worked together on many of them. >> but for history, though, what was your role -- what was your intention with that meeting with him on july 13th? >> i'm not going to get into the specific, but he can -- president biden will walk away from the presidency with his head held high because of all of the great things he's done and because he put america first. he always has. >> vice president harris now the presumptive nominee, senator. are you encouraging senate democrats including those in battleground states to invite her to campaign with them, to have her in their advertisements? >> yeah. the biden-harris record is just incredible, as i mentioned. all of the specific things that has been -- that they have passed together, working with us. so it's an incredible r

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but for those who aren't familiar,os can you discuss a little bit on the influence at the the nra and dark money networks have had on justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh's confirmations? >> i'm not going to bena able to cite chapter and verse, but there have been in recent confirmations, you know, there's been a significant increase in money spent by outside groups, the nra and many others. i think that in some ways the story of the transformation of the second amendment goes back much, muchat further, right, thn the recent confirmation of president trump's appointees to the supreme court, the 2022 bruin decision that you mentioned. and in both of those instances, a very broad-based, multi-platform effort that involved a lot of expenditures of funds but also the development of scholarship and sort of a movement to change americans' understanding of the second amendment, of course, the amendment had in it a well-regulated militia of being necessary to get to the -- before it gets to the part of keeping andnd bearing arms and r all of our history until 2008, that waser a right consist

we got a candidate saying, promise the nra. don't worry. i'm not going to do anything. i'm not going to do anything. you got a supreme court. that is what you might call the most conservative court in american history. this is ridiculous. there's so much we can do still and i'm determined to get it done. it's about freedom. and by the, end this. well, i'm not going to do that. haley has it has to come up, too. but the. i remember i made a speech on democracy in philadelphia and independence hall, and i'm not being critical, just observing the bulk of the press. what the hell is he talking about? that for democracy? he did. democracy is not an issue. democracy is not an issue. except the polling data showed 60% of the people knew i was right. i thought i was right. am i asking you a question? you don't have to answer, obviously. but do you think our democracy is under siege based on this court? do you think democracy is under siege based on project 2025? do you think he means what he says when he says he's going to do away with the civil service, eliminate the department

campaign fundraising message, biden saying, "they were wrong when they said we couldn't take on the nrarma, or big oil. forget the pundits.” his team arguing over the last 24 hours out on the campaign trail and sitting down with our george stephanopoulos, the president has demonstrated he is fit to serve and has a path to win. a source familiar with the campaign's thinking telling abc news, “we're electing a president to lead and deliver for the american people in an incredibly dangerous and fraught time. we're not electing a performer for a reality tv show.” but a growing chorus of democrats unconvinced. five current house democrats now calling on joe biden to step aside. the latest to join the call, representative angie craig of minnesota, a must-win state for president biden. another of those house democrats, mike quigley of illinois, celebrating biden's record but saying he does not think the president can win. >> it's a tough race. it's brutal now. with the greatest respect, i don't think he's up for it. >> reporter: a handful of heavyweight donors also publicly weighing in includi

justing chin stuff as he looks upon the the adulating crowd um he represents the the bible belt um the nra people all of that those that all included in his support but that's all a paradox mike because he's the least evangelical the least christian you could imagine uh

it was about a new york government official and the nra. it was the case that you would like to look to if you are trying to figure out where the supreme court is dropping hints about what is and isn't appropriate. in that case, the supreme court found that the new york official was in fact guilty of infringing on the nra's rights because that official had pretty close direct enforcement authority over areas that could with the supreme court cases that you see around social media, the allegations have sort of been -- they used really inflammatory language. there was an official from the white house who was riding emails to someone at facebook. those emails were not civil in their tone, as someone who previously worked for the federal government. i don't like the idea that anybody in the federal government would talk to anybody that way. it's inappropriate and unprofessional and abuses your authority. i don't think it's constitutional. that was in email about president biden's personal instagram page. it wasn't about covid, it wasn't about a

. - you can give it to political groups like the nra, - and then they can do . with it what they wanteally the possibilities are endless if you have . a well—stocked bank account. yeah. and what. .. what really fascinates us this time round is what happens to that money and, in a sense, whether it's worth raising it in the kind of amounts...that we talk about. because, marianna, do you remember we had that conversation with jake tapper, who sarah will know very well? jake tapper, who told us about going viral and never quite knowing what does go viral and what doesn't go viral in the modern world. and thatjust seems to me to be really important when it comes to what you get for your money in this day and age. in other words, you can't be as sure. you used to just run a tv ad, didn't you? and nowadays, in marianna's world, which is increasingly all of our worlds, you can't, can you? yeah. i mean, one of the things that i've really noticed — i'm sure you've probably spotted this, sarah, as well, and anthony and justin, as we've chatted about — is how, particularly since kamala harris ha

multiple administrations have used executive agreements to advance diplomatic goals nra in the u.s. national -- that are in the u.s. national security interests. along with my clearly, i support this bipartisan agreement because it does just that -- it advances ukraine's interests hand our own interests -- and our own interests in national security. unlike other administrations, in the case of this agreement, the biden administration proactively reached out to members and staff in both chambers, in both parties, to share the parameters of the negotiations while they were under way. they solicited reactions and input from congress, and they took some of our input in in regards to the final negotiations. and unlike the practices of previous administrationed, the biden administration printed the text on the day it was signed. we in congress were kept up to date on parallel negotiations with ukraine's -- by 30 other negotiations. they're negotiating with 31 countries, bilateral security agreements so we can have a comprehensive help to yucca with its defense of democracy. many are nato,

. >> in 2018, the nra tweeted regarding this topic that doctors should stay in their lane. lane. as a primary care doctor, if i'm willing to counsel you on alcohol consumption, tobacco use, how you're driving your car, i got to be talking about firearms as well. >> is this a second amendment issue? >> i don't think so. i mean we have the right to bear arms. i sell guns. that's the last thing i want to do is take away my guns. it's not about taking away. it's about safety, and that's it. >> reporter: nearly 500 people a year die from accidental shootings. gun suicides are at an all-time high for adults, and suicide rates for children have risen dramatically. access to unlocked firearms in homes make suicide nearly four times more likely. there are about 30 million children across the country living in homes with guns. >> studies show a child as young as 3 has the strength to pull this trigger. >> reporter: pediatricians at the children's hospital of philadelphia say asking parents about safe gun storage is as important as asking about bike helmets and pool safety. >> are the

this is the lowest level of international investment since in nra began tracking it in 2009. also down 21% from the year before. this as both the average and median purchase prices were the highest that the nra ever recorded for foreign buyers. the top buyers by volume were from canada, china, mexico, and india. they bought the most, though, in florida, texas, california, and arizona. chinese buyers spent the most money, that is, higher-priced homes. this report is only sales of existing homes and foreign buyers are big in the new development space. that's not reflected here. realtors cite a strong u.s. dollar as well as tight supply of homes for sale and high prices as major hurdles to foreign buyers. that in addition to the usual currency, banking, and title hurdles that foreigners face. back to you guys. >> diana, thank you. dinah olick. that does it for "squawk on the stre." lomo mkecoeta t reart verage coming your way, including coverage on the fall of chip company stocks. that's next. [busy hospital background sounds] this healthcare network uses crowdstrike to defend a

be able to open carry guns and you have to wonder if you are a rattled a member of congress as pro— nra those crowds, knowing that people can have weapons in those crowds, is going to put them in a very precarious situation now that being said, i would expect to hear a lot of the sensitive from speakers next week, i would get a sense from president trump, former president trump that he has survived this and has been put upon but it's already change the campaign and the biting campaign is pulling down ads, sure they wanted to be ramping up sure they wanted to be ramping up their message ahead of next week —— biden campaign. making sure the messages countering whatever comes out of milwaukee and that will be tricky now because i don't want to be seen as capitalising on violence against another political opponent, especially when he is a former president. i opponent, especially when he is a former president.— a former president. i 'ust wanted to i a former president. i 'ust wanted to ask * a former president. i 'ust wanted to ask you i a former president. i just l wanted to ask you actuall

we have a candidate who promised the nra, don't worry, i'm not going to do anything. >> joining us isen psaki, former white house press secretary and host of inside with jen psaki. we don't mention the former press secretary but you were press secretary for that guy. i'm looking at that guy and i am thinking, why hasn't he been doing this all the time? by all the time, i don't know, four or five or six times a year and maybe this year even more. >> there's a logistical truth and there's a news truth. the news truth is a lot of the questions he was asked, as he should've been asked about the status of his campaign and his intention to stay. there were a lot of good substantive, bubble foreign- policy questions. >> they were all good foreign- policy questions. >> i was never nervous about questions from tv, they ask good questions but when i saw someone like david sanger, i thought, it's going to be deep and thoughtful. every press conference is not that. it's not always following a nato summit there's a lot to talk about and it wasn't all about foreign-policy. the other factor is presi

most nra members agree with that.cking people out of the country who are here on student visas when they get degrees in things that half of congress can't spell, and we kick them out of the country. reproductive rights. most americans, and we have seen it in red states where they come out in droves to vote and try to preserve access to abortion care. we are americans, and the lines that divide us are nowhere near as strong as the ties that bind us, and what we need is not just a tamped down political rhetoric. we need, again, more leaders on both sides of the aisle that will call to the moral imagination of the country and remind people that we have one destiny, and we need to put more indivisible in this nation under god, and where advancing the kind of manufacturing boom that came from the eisenhower highway act, or the gi bill. when we do things together, there's no stopping us. we don't only lead to great things here in america, but we lead the world to want to be more like us. >> what that really means if you dis

. >> and of course, we also know trump has been a supporter of the nra as well.e's pledged his support to he said he's going to roll back a lot of regulations that the biden administration has put in if trump were return to the white house. >> do you see this assassination attempt changing that for from trump's perspective? >> who knows if you know presidents evolve in and change a trump stick to the same rhetoric and policy positions on guns. he said previously or the shooting could change his mind that we saw this with with reagan. reagan was much more open to support things like assault weapon ban that things like that after the shooting that occurred with him. once a bullet graze your ear, it could change your mind. remains to be seen how trump will react. >> all professor nolan higdon with the university of cal state east bay. thank you so much for your time this morning. all right. and you can stay with kron 4 for the very latest on this story. lots to come. lots more developments to come as well. you can head to the kron 4. our website kron 4 dot com where

[cheering] i got the full endorsement from the nra, you saw that. they gave us all longest endorsement. for four years of protected and it was not that easy. we will protect innocent life and restore free speech and i will secure our elections. our goal will be one day voting with paper ballots, proof of citizenship's and voter ids, very simple. until then, republicans must win, we are to win, win, win, win. we want a landslide that is too big to read. i said it before and i'll say it 100, 200, 300 times before. november fifth starts in early september, north carolina is now we have ridiculous low season before the election, after, we got to have one day voting. what happened to the ballots over there? we moved them a little bit. you vote two months early, nobody knows what's going on, are they using a shovel? you see what goes on? take a look at georgia shoveling ballots into wheelbarrows moving them around. if you took the ten worst presidents in the history of the united states and added them up, they would not have done near the destruction to o

she has a huge amount -- it would be like republicans to lock up evangelicals or nra voters three monthsion. when your base is this fractured and so little time on your hands you have a whole lot of headaches in front of you. >> dana: there is also -- i've always believed that the online presence of the trump campaign was superior to kamala harris -- biden's. now kamala harris is stepping up. i had to look this person up today. a person named charlie with a lot of music online and called it brat summer. you are messy and bold and these are the memes coming out and the brat logo is deep green, i'm sure if other people are looking online why is kamala harris having this out there? it's call for number four. that she is trying to figure out a way to get those younger voters back on her side. will that work? >> well, dana, it may be hard to believe. i'm past the era of memes. everything they have tried to date hasn't worked. free college, free rent, pro-hamas. all the giveaways, blatant athames to win over young voters. all the green environmental lunacy and it hasn't worked. i give them cre

case, ruling against pro-life doctors suing the fda over the abortion pill and decision allowing the nrao sue a new york regulator for coerceing insurers to stop doing business with gun rights group. out of the 49 decisions by the court in this term, only 11 were decided along straight ideological lines. to call this supreme court maga is a cheap shot. >> i would say so. you could pick and choose and say something favors one side or the other. court is in my opinion following the constitution and making decisions not for the ages, not the particular controversies at issue. political or not. >> julie: i want to bring up the evidence in the new york criminal case. it does reflect on witnesses that were in the white house. hope hicks was one of the witnesses that would then, you know, grant the president immunity. so that witness would no longer be applicable as far as a conviction. how do you fairly sentence someone when they were convicted without the idea of immunity, right? if you use white house aides and using witnesses that would fall under immunity. i don't know how do you different