. >> let's go back a little bit further because you say the formations, the generation of the nra post civil war. how do they view the second amendment then versus had a debut today? are there differences? >> yes. i think when the nra is first established in 1971 it's going to be a hard fine to see them talking about the second amendment. it's really a turn of the 20th century that they start talking about the second amendment, and it's almost always in the context of what is called the 1911 sullivan law which was new york's law, the first law to require somebody to get a permit to purchase and hold a handgun, before that there weren't such laws other than a brief chicago law. i believe they enacted their lot into thousand eight, it didn't stain the books long, that was important because new york at the time with epicenter of the united states in terms of population, new york city i think the city was over 5200, if you take the 50 to 100 city at the time and you get them all up, they still don't reach new york city. that is how central new york was to the united states of the time. so

you said the formations, the genesis of the nra post-civil war, how did they view the second amendment then versus how we may view it today? are there differences? >> yeah, i think when the nra is first established in 1871 it's going to be a hard find to see them talking about the second amendment. it's really at the turn of the 20th century they start talking about the second amendment, and it's almost always in the context of what is called the 1911 sullivan law, which was new york's law, the first law to require someone to get a permit to purchase and own a handgun. before that there were no such laws other than a brief chicago law in 1908, but it didn't stay in the books very long. and that law is really important because new york at the time was the epicenter of the united states in terms of population, new york city. i think cities number 50 to 100, if you take them and add them all up by populations they still did not equal new york city. that's how central new york was to the united states at that time. obviously they had a big fear, plus, you've got to remember nra is organizi

was up late putting my kids to sleep my husband owns a gun the nra put up a post we support americans rights to own guns. she reach we that and replies and then within minutes she gets replies from people who look at her twitter profile. found out she had kids and are posting we hope your kids find your gun and shoot you. this is all too common. and the leading research firm put out a study that suggested the number one reason people are harassed online is for political views. so the story of jekyll and hyde character is concerning. even a more pernicious effect to make people like sarah who desperately need to bring the conversation back to the middle cannot. >> the harms are extremism, silence, making people afraid. democracy. let's talk about declining trust there has been a long decline the trust institutions and others. it may vary from country to country. tell me what you know about declining trust. briefly talk internationally is all western democracy having the same problem quick. >> that comparative question is fascinating but there are variations. a lot of countries are goin

was up late putting my kids to sleep my husband owns a gun the nra put up a post we support americans rights to own guns. she reach we that and replies and then within minutes she gets replies from people who look at her twitter profile. found out she had kids and are posting we hope your kids find your gun and shoot you. this is all too common. and the leading research firm put out a study that suggested the number one reason people are harassed online is for political views. so the story of jekyll and hyde character is concerning. even a more pernicious effect to make people like sarah who desperately need to bring the conversation back to the middle cannot. >> the harms are extremism, silence, making people afraid. democracy. let's talk about declining trust there has been a long decline the trust institutions and others. it may vary from country to country. tell me what you know about declining trust. briefly talk internationally is all western democracy having the same problem quick. >> that comparative question is fascinating but there are variations. a lot of countries are goin