should the nrcc fund raise off your efforts for the select committee? >> our focus is on getting the answers to those family whose lost their loved ones, period. >> should the nrcc, if they're fund-raising off of it right now, is that -- >> our focus is getting the truth for these four families and for the american people. >> the campaign committee which you are very involved in is fund-raising off of this. why is that happening? >> our focus is on getting the truth for the american people and these four families. >> three questions and he can't say it's wrong. congressman trey gowdy, who is leading the panel, said thursday on "morning joe," it would be wrong to raise money off the benghazi attack and then e-mails went out raising money for the benghazi attack. >>> all hospitals, subpoenas for e-mails have been issued for administrators including secretary of state shinseki, veterans in the phoenix area waiting for care while, waiting for care, they died. when this woman's father went to the hospital for urgent care, the staff refused to treat him and t

. >> congressman, there was a little controversy the nrcc. sending out an a pole for funds and some critical saying it is a fund- raising mechanism. the nrcc is pulled away from anything resembling raising funds in lite of the select committee. is that a way to demonstrate it is not a witch hunt as described by%é nancy pelosi? governor, the whole intent. the speaker made it clear. the only intent, motorcycle and i and trey and others on the group understand this. the sole purpose of the committee is to find out the truth and put the facts out in front of the american people. that is the purpose for the committee and nothing else. >> i want to thank you for being here. congressman, we are all hoping that your committee will be able to get to the truth for the sake of the families and every american that wants integrity in his government. >> thank you for having me. >> the chairman of the federal reserve doesn't know if america is a capitalistic society. and she said income inquality is a problem. why those words ought t >>> when the head of th

but if you look at what the nrcc does, this is valuable data money. people who sign up to be benghazi watchdogs, they'll surely turn out in 2016 to keep the house -- sorry, 2014 and keep the house in republican hands. but this is an interesting side issue that is wise to bring up is, how does this play out moving forward. as soon as these fund-raising solicitations keep coming out, and the nrcc is not the only one doing it, there are a lot of other groups, that gives democrats a ton of ammo saying this is the only reason why this is happening. you'll see that sort of, this is all about politics. some democrats say, hey, maybe this could turn out into a bill clinton 1998 midterm situation where they get so caught up in the side issues that americans don't care about, they end up losing a few seats, or break even. hard to see that happening with the gerrymandering the way it is, but it certainly adds another arsenal to the weapons past democrats have against the select committee on benghazi. >> luke, it seems to me the type of people signing up to be be

should the nrcc fundraise off your efforts with the select committee? >> our focus is on getting the answer to those families who lost their loved ones. period. >> the nrcc, they're fundraising off of it right now. >> our focus is getting the truth for these four families and for the american people. >> donling the question. amazing. the correct answer is no, they should not be fundraising tragedy. they just can't help themselves. they're treating it like the super bowl. >> where was president obama that day and that night? >> people have been trying too get an answer for this for 20 months. where was the president the night of the attacks? >> they leased a photo after the killing of bin laden, but we don't have any photots from the other night, september 11, 2012. >> where is president obama? why isn't there is a photo? yes, there is a photo. here it is. president obama in the white house on the night of september 11. it's been available for more than a year. just one of the many republican questions about benghazi that have already been answered. but

it's my understanding the nrcc has now pulled away anything that would resemble raising funds in light of the select committee. that one more way to demonstrate this is not some kind of witch-hunt as has been described by nancy pelosi? >> well, governor, the whole intent, i think the speaker has made it perfectly clear, the only intent and mike and i and trey and the others on the group understand this, the sole purpose of this committee is to find out the truth. and to put the facts out in front of the american people. that's the purpose for this committee and nothing else. >> well, i want to thank you both of you for being here, congressman pompeo, congressman westmoreland and we're hoping your committee will be able to get to the truth for the sake of these families and for the sake of every american who wants integrity in its government. thank you very much for being with us. >> well the chairman of the federal reserve says she doesn't know know if america is still an capitalistic society. i'm going to be talking to lou dobbs as to why those statements should matter to you. next. v

this was a tragedy that should not be exploited by the nrcc based on this permanent select committee. by the way, he agrees with me. other notable republicans have agreed with my position that this should not be a fund raising strategy. and still even today the nrcc continues to use this permanent select committee not to seek answers to questions but to seek dollars from big supporters. >> i've seen dccced as that talk about ncc fundraising. so isn't that just a vicious cycle in republicans fund raise off of a tragedy, democrats say it's not okay. >> we are not raising money of a permanent select committee. republicans in congress have done just that. >> congressman steve israel, thank you so much for your time and thoughts. joining me now is senior writer for politico, glenn thrush, and also sam stein. sam, i want to go with you first. we were quoting the piece you had today about the fact that trey gowdy's big question has already been answered. do you think it's laziness, bad preparation? how does trey gowdy not know that very yes has been answered by hillary clinton in testimony a

the national republican congressional committee, the nrcc, is sticking with its shameless fund-raising plug, one targeting president obama with distinct focus on hillary clinton. but just because this select committee is in the house, it doesn't mean the senate can't get in while the getting's good. and naturally, the conservative whisperer of the u.s. senate is not missing out on the benghazi grab bag. no, no, no. north ted cruz will never surrender on benghazi or anything else and to fuel that tenaci tenacity, a tea party group is issuing a benghazi fund-raising flash on his behalf. for house speaker onba eer john this is awkward, asked three times whether boehner had his answer and he stuck to it in our focus is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones, period. our focus is getting truth for these four families and for the american people. our focus is on getting the truth for the american people and these four families. >> speaker boehner is incredibly focused on avoiding the question of whether his party should fundraise off of benghazi. now opened the fl

period. >> but should the nrcc, they're fundraising off of it right now? is that the right thing to do? >> our focus is getting the truth of these four families of the american people. >> the campaign committee, which you are very involved in is fundraising off of this. why is that happening? >> our focus is getting the truth for the american people and four families. >> no controlling legal authority. why didn't he answer the question? >> let's put it out here. he should back up his chairman of the select committee, congressman gowdy is absolutely right. there should be no fundraising on this issue. it is disrespectful to the deceased. it is disrespectful to their families. and it is disrespectful to the process that the republican leadership wants to pursue. so if you're serious about the impact of benghazi, then show it by pulling back off fundraising. you're going to raise your money. you don't have to -- >> the chairman of the republican national committee says it's wrong to raise money off of benghazi. >> yes. i support chairman gowdy 100% on this. h

. >> but the nrcc is, sir. >> i also advised my colleagues to follow suit, and i think i did so in a pretty unambiguous way. >> not only the the website still up, they are explicitly using congressman trey gowdy, asking him to stand with him and, of course, contribute your money. if you've been wondering, why the heck has there been so much attention paid to benghazi the last few days? it's because of what we call on this show, #benghazi. #benghazi is an immensely lucrative opportunity for anyone who can channel the #benghazi fever, as evidenced by the fund-raising, nrcc has been doing, and others have been doing on it since the end of last year. and wesmoreland tell says that 206 house republicans have been asked to be considered for the #benghazi select committee. they can all send out their own #benghazi fund-raising e-mails. not only that, it gives republicans, well, something to talk about, because as we've ask on this show, what the hell are they running on in 2014? particularly, now, since the previous scandal they were campaigning on, the disaster of obamacare is actually out

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period. >> should the nrcc, their fund-raising, is that a wise thing to do? >> our focus is getting the truth for the four families and for the am scan peoperican peop. >> the campaign committee is fund-raising off of this. s why that happening. >> our focus is on getting the truth for the american people and the four family. >> almost eerie when you see the politician in the full talking point mode especially about an investigation of murders of americans. now before the vote tonight the overseeing the committee's ranking democrat underscored his party's stance on all that fund-raising. >> they had been using the deaths of these fo1/4 americans for political campaign fund-raising. i call on the speaker of the house to end the process right now. we are better than that. joining me now, a columnist for "the new york times." steve clemens, washington editor at large for the magazine and contributor. welcome to you both. nick, what are we learning about this inquiry and this vote today? >> well, we are going to learn very little about benghazi. aired pretty thor

it is not like the nrcc is not directly connected to republican members of congress. >> they could make it stop tomorrow. this is absolutely what the other folks have said, it is about base mobilization. but for the democrats, right? strategically for the left. this is also an opportunity for base mobilization. we have seen how attacks on obama have really turned out and spurred the rising american electorate. black folks in particular. black women who will be needed in this election if democrats hope to hole on to the senate. in particular we saw in 2012 with pew research and others, why people waited in long lines, why people turned out was because of these attacks on president obama that folks felt were unfair. how this gets turned around and flipped on its head to ensure the american public knows how republicans are using our tax dollars and not really concentrating on the real issues facing all of us. >> i want to play sound from mr. gowdy earlier trying to flip this back around on democrats crying hypocrisy. >> the duplicity and hypocrisy of democrats all of a cud concluding that

should the nrcc fund-raise off of your efforts with the select committee?is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones, period. >> should the nrcc -- there's fund-raising out there right now. is that -- >> our focus is getting the truth for these four families and for the american people. >> republicans have alleged the white house knowingly distorted the reasons for the attack and encouraged former u.n. ambassador susan rice to lie about what happened. she's now the president's national security adviser. democrats say it's unfair republicans are only offering them five seats on the committee while the majority party will have seven. >>> this morning, disturbing, new developments in a story first brought to you right here on cnn. a shocking investigation showing veterans were left on waiting lists by the va, unable to get the health care that they needed. well, now the va secretary, eric shinseki, is ordering a face-to-face audit amid calls that he resign or actually get fired from his job, this coming as investigators this morning a

. >> you guys -- >> koch brothers will spend more to elect republicans than the nrcc and nrsc combined. >> you don't think it's a mistake to go after tea partiers and koch republicans instead of delivering your own economic message? >> you talk about somebody that didn't have a message -- >> hold on, folks, we're going to come back. first we want you at home to weigh in on today's fire back question, have tea party candidates made the republican party stronger or weaker? we want you in on this. reply stronger or weaker using #crossfire. latest from wolf in just a minute. >>> welcome back to "crossfire" and cnn's coverage of america's choice. and even though it's may, happy halloween because the tea party's dragging republicans so far to the right that it's scaring me. >> the orange tie. >> hence the orange tie. >> before we can continue our debate, first, let's get the latest results from the primaries from wolf blitzer. go ahead, wolf. >> you guys are having way too much fun over there, van, s.e. voters are picking candidates for this fall's election. we're getting our first results c

so i'll ask you the question that the nrcc asked. will you automatically add your name today to join us and become a benghazi watchdog? >> like i said, i'm already a benghazi watchdog. >> let me just say i actually do think, and i'll come back to this later that are there are some things that are clearly beyond the pale. and thing is a zone where we ought to be much more careful about how he raise the money. stay here. we want you at home to weigh in on today's fire-back question. the benghazi investigation a worthwhile use of taxpayer money? tweet yes or no using #crossfire. we'll have the results after the break. we also have the outrage of the day. i'm outraged about what a democratic congressman from arizona is doing to raise money ah of dead veterans. , the will... mobilizing to take on the world? you don't know "aarp." aarp and its foundation are taking on hunger with 29 million meals donated. drive to end hunger teams with local agencies to reach the hungriest among us. if you don't think feed the hungry when you think aarp, t

should the nrcc fund raise off of your efforts of a select committee?ers to those families who lost their loved ones, period. >> should the nrcc do fund-raising off it right now? >> our focus is getting the truth for these four families and for the american people. >> but the campaign committee which you are very involved in-. why is that happen? >> our focus is forgetting the truth for these american people and four families. >> that's the speaker of the house. that was not a robot. maggie, i'm sorry, i get a little crazy about this one. he's the leader. leaders are supposed to lead. he could have at least answered the question as to whether or not it's appropriate, right? >> he could. his answer probably seems more politically astute for him, whether it's an actual answer to the question is a different issue. it's always dangerous when you fund raise off of a tragedy as you point out, this is a very delicate thing. i'm not sure that leadership was necessarily thrilled that a happened but they don't see a way to walk it back. remember, their base, the

yesterday, we reported on an individual diagnose it for the nrcc.his is the line that republicans walk here which is exactly what chairman steele said, if they go too far, if they bite too sharply, they look like they're out for political benefit. i think that's a real risk to to that. when mitt romney reacted to this in realtime, september 2012, he overreached. it ended up biting him. republican committees, republican lawmakers run the same risks in these first couple weeks. >> chairman, jay maier of the "new yorker" reminds what happened in which 213 service members were killed. it was one of several attacks on that compound. and tip o'er of the house, led a two-month investigation. the results of which had bipartisan consensus. changes were made in way how we secure our diplomatic compound. it stands in such sharp contrast pipe actually feel it's one of the most searing indictments of what has happened to our legislative branch. the notion that they work together, there were attacks after this report came out, after these safety measures had been

seen boehner and others who are in romney's circle politically, they've been a little weary of this nrcc fundraiser but they know within the current state of play on capitol hill, where you have the president doing executive orders and republicans into looking into oversight and health care on the other, benghazi is a key issue for them in the mid terms and if they raise money off of it. they are focusing on it and that's what they are going to tie to their political efforts as well. >> howard, he made big news about domestic issues when i he talked about minimum wage earlier. >> i for instance, as you know, part company with many of the con sirve tifs on the issue of the minimum wage. i think we ought to raise it. our party is all about more jobs and better pay. and i think communicating that is important to us. >> that took a lot of people aback. do you think that could spur a trend? do you think more republicans will get behind it? >> he's saying it knowing for a certainty it's not going to happen. and the way the republicans are pushing their strategy right now undercuts what mitt ro

. >> should the nrcc, they are fund raising off it. >> our focus is getting the truth for these familiesthe american people. >> the campaign committee, which you are involved in is fund raising off this. why is that happening? >> our focus is on getting the truth for the american people and these four families. >> senator, your response to that? >> it's just sad. you know, you see a speaker of the house is ducking and dodging and won't answer the question. it's insulting to the person who asks it. it's insulting to the american people. answer the question. >> yeah. >> and the biggest question is, why are you doing this when we have had all of these hearings, subpoenas, documents, papers, briefings, interviews. there is no right answer. it's just that they want to make the people believe that the obama administration and hillary clinton did something wrong when they didn't. they didn't. this is a tragedy. it is not a scandal. and their behavior is scandalous. >> senator barbara boxer, great to have you with us. thanks so much. >>> still ahead, a culture war on campus. native american stud

lynn westmoreland is the deputy chairman of the nrcc, the national republican congressional committee, which has been fund-raising off of the benghazi select committee. what is the message the speaker is trying to send here? >> well, it's an interesting mix of establishment loyalists and sort of hard right-wingers. you look at jim jordan of ohio who used to be head of the rsc which is a group of conservatives within the house gop conference as well as pomp deo and westwestmoreland. these guys on the hard right are not the type of ones that totally stray away from leadership. they're not the jason sort of chaffitz, the ones that tell the leadership to shove it. they'll say things that are probably to the right of john boehner, eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, but they'll be reeled in when necessary. what you're seeing here is boehner really exerting control, exerting authority and that's what this really comes down to. nancy pelosi hit it right on the head. issa in the view of his colleagues is damaged goods. they did not want him moving forward on benghazi because they felt after the r

. >> the nrcc is. >> i advised my colleagues to follow suit and i think i did so in an unambiguous way>> lastly, sir, i think one of the reasons there are a lot of americans who wonder about how partisan this commit were will be doesn't have to do with you but the fact that republicans in general, and i know you were a prosecutor in south carolina at the time, i'm not holding you personally responsible but republicans in general did not have this appetite to find out what went wrong when incorrect intelligence was used to push the war in iraq. do you see why some people might say why is this more important than that war which resulted in the deaths of more than 4500 american soldiers and countless innocent iraqis? >> at end of this you may say he's not very smart but no once going to say i'm not fair. you will be able to have confidence that this will be run like a trial was run with respect to fairness and process. this is not going to be a kangaroo court. if i thought it were i wouldn't have participated. >> i hope you're right and wish you luck. thank you for your time. >>> and form

this is a fundraiser coming out from the nrcc. congressman gowdy, isn't this exactly the problem, the danger, the risk that you overstep your bounds, the gop? not you personally. you overreach, and you make this political, and as congressman basara mentioned, you end up going a political hunt instead of dealing with issues that people deal with their daily lives like obama care and jobs? >> yes. which is exactly why i said i will never and have never sent out any fundraising literature trying to raise money in the grief and tragedy of four dead americans, and i have asked my colleagues to follow suit. my friend and colleague tommy cott from arkansas did a magnificent job on the house floor of pointing out the duplicity and hypocrisy of democrats all of a sudden concluding that certain things are above politics. had he raise money on sandy hook. they raise money on katrina. had he raise money on iraq and afghanistan. for me i will not raise money on benghazi just like i never raised money using crime victims when i was a prosecutor

and if so, will you urge the nrcc to stop?look, there's a lot of discussion about the creation of the select committee and around the politics of it versus the policy of it, and i know that, you know, there's much being hurled about right now, and i think it's best for all of us in these halls to focus on what the reason is for the creation of the committee. >> he just sidestepped, congressman, the whole issue. i mean, what kind of leadership is that? >> it's a leadership that cares more about politics than getting to the truth, and the truth of the matter is this, rev, is that there's been two official investigations. one, by the state department, another one by the senate intelligence committee. both have shown that this was an attack, there was a failure of intelligence, but there was nothing -- no coverup, and there was no military response that could have been launched in time to save those four americans. there's also darrell issa, as you know, who has had the oversight committee, which, by the way, congressman trey gowd

should the nrcc fundraise off of your efforts to the select committee? >> our focus is on getting the answers to those families who lost their loved ones, period. >> but the campaign committee which you are very involved in is fund-raising off of this. why is that happening? >> our focus is on getting the truth for the american people and these four families. >> if elected republicans understand one thing, they understand where the energy of the base is. and their behavior is always a great way to figure out what the base is exercised about and what they're not that into. the base is no longer so worked up about obamacare. it's working. and as it does, little by little, each day with each small fact of people getting insurance, it shrinks as a political target. and so republicans need something new. if you don't believe the gop politicians are the best weather vane, how about roger ailes at fox news, probably better than any single human being on earth can sense the anxieties of his audience. fox news programming on these two topics, the obamacare/bengha

should the nrcc fund raise it?milies lost their loved ones. >> the fund-raising outfit right now, is that a -- >> our focus is getting the truth for these four families and for the american people. >> luke, when you talk to republicans, specifically on capitol hill, do you get the sense that there's discomfort with the fund raising as expected of it, and the sense that they're seeing that it's detracting from what they believe is the seriousness of their inquiry? >> if you talk to aides privately, they say they are uncomfortable with it, because tre gowdy, he said on msnbc yesterday, it gives the opposition ammunition, and in fact doing this for political reasons to rally the base, to try to move people to the polls come november. all that being said, it was surprising today, allowing the press corps that it asks the question a few times after i asked it, and the idea behind it is that this is so valuable to them, ahead of the midterms, they're willing to take the, shall we say outrage, happening in a lot of editor

. >> should the nrcc, their fund-raising -- >> our focus is getting the truth for the four families andhe american people. >> the campaign committee which you are very involved in. >> what did you have for lunch today? >> our focus is on -- the 3 trillionth investigation into the benghazi tragedy, that republicans are determined to turn into a scandal. they're trying to up the seriousness of what they're doing. fund-raising an outsfit lifit l debate gaffe it is not a good first step. to be taken sear justly. who knows what will happen next. watch this space. time for the last word. thank you for being with us tonight. have a great night. >>> people need jobs. city and states need infrastructure improvements. america needs immigration reform we could go on. what is the house voting on today? benghazi. >> if you have been wondering why the heck has there been so much attention paid to benghazi. >> republicans push ahead

to make and speaker boehner today in a press conference did not address the fund raising from the nrccthat i say testament to his ability to sgrap grap well in tension. >> is this something the republicans believe they can raise money off? >> i think they have not only can they, but they have for quite some time. i spent a lot of time on the campaign trail. and when i talk to republican based voters, tea party conservatives, benghazi more than jobs it seems, more than any other issue is at the top of their list of concerns. they really believe the obama administration is out of line in how it handled the response of these attacks and they want-- they're pressuring the leadership day if and day out, calls, et cetera, to go in and do it more. >> quickly more than health care? >> even more-- i think obama care ahead of 2014 is certainly at the top of that same list. but it's obama care and benghazi when i'm out on the trail. that is what i hear as a reporter. i think the republican leadership would echo that if you had a conversation with them. >> robert costa of "the washington post," we

. >> so the nrcc has this website called the benghazi watchdogs.com that's asking for money.e're expecting to hear from speaker boehner some time in the next hour and he's got his weekly briefing, bob. is he going have to do something about this? >> i think he certainly should and i would be inclined to think that he will. we know that politicians play politics, that's no surprise, but some things ought to be beyond the pale and this is a tremendous tragedy and should not be a fund raising tool. >> republican congressman, james lang ford is using benghazi and running for the senate in oklahoma and scott sent out a fund-raising, mail so he can hold the administration accountable. what's the risk for republicans and those who at least try to push forward both with the fund raising and with the hearings and using it as a campaign issue? >> that's the thing. they're using it as a campaign issue. if this committee hoped to get anything done and anything serious to come out of it, they shouldn't be fund-raising off of it or it's going to be seen just through a political lens, but i

exploit the deaths of those brave americans is utterly exposed by naming the deputy chairman of the nrcc to the select committee on benghazi. i'm calling on representative westmoreland to step down from the committee on benghazi immediately. the political position he holds and the partisan behavior he exhibited make it clear he has no business sitting on this committee. congressman lewis also voted against the establishment of the select committee but he thinks the democrats do need to participate and take a seat at that table, however compromised it may be. yesterday committee chairman, republican trey gowdy, tried to assure the chairman of the house democratic caucus, xavier becerra, that the investigation would be non-political and bipartisan. >> i don't run my committees the way that the democrats are fearful of. i want a process, chris, that at the end of it you are welcome to draw different conclusions from the facts. but i want everyone to say it was fair, it was exhaustive, and we know more than we did when it started. >> make it a process where we can't be excluded from the inte

. >> jake, i cannot and will not raise money -- >> but the nrcc is, sir. >> i also advise my colleagues so in a pretty unambiguous way. >> my interpretation is that he was calling for the nrcc to stop the fund-raising. this is a risky area for republicans, to raise money off of this tragedy. >> yeah. raising money off the tragedy, also making it look like it's a partisan witch hunt. the administration sees those comments that you had congressman say and, you know, it exposes the tensions in the republican party right now and if the republicans are trying to rally the base around benghazi then what the white house and democrats are saying is, okay, you're obsessed with these kinds of conspiracies and that's coming at the expense of working on other economic t matter, pay equity, gender equality, minimum wage. >> they've got to figure out democrats whether or not they're going to participate in these hearing 'that's a debate that's going on in congress. i do think democrats have to be careful not to seem too flip about this. you had that former aide saying, oh, dude, this happened two yea

i guess the nrcc has sent out 44 different mailers in different districts targeting democratic candidatese democratic candidates to you. >> mm-hmm. system >> it strikes me looking back it's been a consistent theme with them has been attaching you to democrats using john boehner necessarily. what makes they will pick on you is this. >> because i'm effective. we got the job done when we had the majority even under president obama. further under president obama, we have work on hiv/aids, helping children, passing the tarp the. the rest of that. our democrats working together to build consensus to govern. people want to know about ideas on job creation. they have none. the environment, investing in the future, passing the immigration bill and the rest they have to make personal attacks. most people want to know what you have to offer. they have spent tens of millions here. roebl over a hundred million. we haven't spent that money against john boehner and his numbers are low just on the face of it. the experience of oh having yourself linked in such a negative way -- >> most of the reports sho

you might reach that conclusion when you hear as you all have reported that the nrcc is telling its candidatesto campaign on this issue and is raising funds off of it. but in terms of democratic participation we certainly defer to them. >> to go back to the va will for one second he said the concerns the white house has a relatively small so would it be fair to say than that the white house is leaning toward supporting that bill? >> again i think we want to work with congress on this specific concern. i know that it's moving in one house of the congress now. i just don't have a time for some of the issues. we do share a goal of the bill and the bipartisan desire for the secretary of veterans affairs to have the power to hold people accountable. >> can you tell us how many he is meeting with? >> i don't have the particulars of his schedule. the chief of staff is up on the hill of luck meeting with folks on a variety of issues so i don't have a preview of any meetings he has had today. >> secondly you have been saying that -- is going to help secretary shinseki with this review but today the pre

you saw the nrcc running fund-raising emails off the issue of benghazi.o they have a problem here too. i think republicans, they don't want it to be too political or too partisan so they really need democrats as well. maybe that healthy medium might get one democratic member on the panel. then everybody is kind of happy in a weird way. that would be again something novel too in washington. martha: we'll see if john boehner and nancy pelosi can get on the phone together and make some progress here and they will walk out of the room. eventually we'll find out what is going on. michael, thank you very much. >> thanks, martha. bill: fox news alert now. the fbi is joining the search for a woman and for her 88-year-old husband that was found brutally murdered in her garage. police say nothing was taken. the home was in immaculate condition. the couple was known to have a good marriage. the couple's pastor, clearly shocked. >> they're a wonderful couple. they're very unassuming couple. never had a lot of drama around them. bill: laura engle in our newsroom in ne

and yet the same morning the nrcc is trying to give donations of $25 to $500. >> it's stupid.ng to stop because it's unsustainable. the select committee is going to go forward and be taken seriously, they have to stop. what fascinates me about this story is democrats have no appetite to get to the bottom of why susan rice who to me is one of the most promising women and competent which in the obama administration, was denied the privilege of serving as the country's secretary of state because of what she said in large part because of what she said on five sunday shows. what she said on five sunday shows was we now know crafted by the white house. why don't democrats want to know how that message came together when it resulted in literally -- that secretary of state post was ripped out from underneath her because of what she did on the sunday shows. we now know the white house shaped that message. and the fact it's so political, that democrats have no appetite for understanding why she said what she said, i don't believe in the moment the white house is covering up what happene

he was undercut by the nrcc. i suspect that probably is not going to happen again.a critical issue right now. the debate continues to rage. we had canada's ambassador of the united states yesterday talking about all the jobs we'd create in the united states. i want to bring it closer to home though. because you can look at what's happened in pennsylvania over the past several years and look what's not happened in new york state over the last couple years because andrew cuomo refuses to allow innovation in energy in new york state. people aren't getting jobs because of it. talk about how fracking in pennsylvania makes a difference to working class people there. >> you're absolutely right. there's a fascinating map that's come out by the census bureau and it shows every county in america that's had an increase in median wages every single county fits into one of two counties. it's either washington, d.c. or an energy-producing county. in pennsylvania, natural gas is changing our economy. it's the direct benefits in the areas and they're localized, but those areas in w

the first one, nrcc, which stands for the national republican campaign committee, fundraising off benghazi. the second one this morning, republicans stick with benghazi cash grab. i'd like to put those into the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. slaughter: additionally, reports say that mr. boehner himself will say he he will not try to stop the fundraising. the majority is demonstrating without a shadow of a doubt that like the many, many votes we have taken trying to kill health care that this is a political move. at is the most crass and insult to these four families who died. we keep over and over rubbing salt into that awful wound by bringing this up over and over. how do you think they feel now? knowing what this game is about in the house of representatives. i'm appalled the majority would lose use these deaths for political gain and money. when the families of the victims of americans want to do is ensure it never happens again. but we are doing nothing to n sure that. not only is the majority disregarding the bipartisan findings, but their own process is so wr