but now shifting to the spill, nrdc has all been a leader on environmental issues. we, too, are 40 years old. and so when this disaster happened, we realized we wanted to shift very quickly and take the moment to try to figure out a path forward. and people asked me how i could write this book so quickly, and can the answer, of course, is nrdc teamwork. from the moment the spill happened, as you heard bob talk about, the oceans team was in action down at the spill. our lands team was looking at the impacts of upstream issues. our transportation and energy teams were trying to figure out as we had been doing for years, how to shape a response that would help us end our addiction to oil. and our toxics program was critical on the ground helping people understand the impacts of this oil. i was down there just a week ago, and to be be downwind of a marsh that is covered with oil and it's black and thick and gooey with oil and just to be there for ten minutes is, you know, i don't know what. it's like sticking your nose in a gas tank, but it's worse. so i was pretty glad

my work at,nrdc, taught me most california streams and rivers need more water now to support healthy eco systems. one of the victims would be a beautiful north coast stream which in addition to providing most of,m oren, counties water supply endangers cohost salmon. if it doesn't fix it water regulator many the next drought may have to choose between the thirst of 2 hundred people and continued existence of this fishery. we face this on our greater scale with the pay delta in ecological collapse in the last decade. we know the collapse in any number of emergencies we're going to lose a number of facilities and it may be rendered by a moderate rise in sea level and future realize on increases diversions. in light of all this, we ask how should water managers best respond to the threat of global warming. my first hope is that water managers get on the front edge fight against this. your not bush administration scientists and nobody will stop you from talking about that. this panel invited us into a very unsettling way of framing the discussion those of us steeped the fight. we assume t

nrdc and former epa alumni. >> that's an understatement. >> i have never left in my heart. this is a fought similar to jason's question. one of the dates this year and started last year is the role of the federal government, and ensure it has occurred to you that this is an issue where the epa ought to be doubled to win this argument by pointing out what the epa has actually done to deliver to the public benefits that could not happen without an active program. my question relates to the use of television, because like it or not, most americans get their information from television. and so i wonder if there are thoughts you have about using television, getting on and basically making this issue of what the epa has done for the public almost unavoidable both in cable and broadcast and public broadcasting, you know, in the year and two years ahead. >> thanks, david. it's a great question. i think we have to be very careful about appropriations. we don't really have a budget. unlike the military, where you have money where we can go out and recruit or tell people one of our wo

nrdc and former epa alumni. >> that's an understatement. >> i have never left in my heart. this is a fought similar to jason's question. one of the dates this year and started last year is the role of the federal government, and ensure it has occurred to you that this is an issue where the epa ought to be doubled to win this argument by pointing out what the epa has actually done to deliver to the public benefits that could not happen without an active program. my question relates to the use of television, because like it or not, most americans get their information from television. and so i wonder if there are thoughts you have about using television, getting on and basically making this issue of what the epa has done for the public almost unavoidable both in cable and broadcast and public broadcasting, you know, in the year and two years ahead. >> thanks, david. it's a great question. i think we have to be very careful about appropriations. we don't really have a budget. unlike the military, where you have money where we can go out and recruit or tell people one of our wo