host: give us a history of the nrdc?uest: it's been around 40 years, we work on all kinds of environmental advocacy but climate and energy are our focal points. we have a team that works on clean energy and one team that fights dirty energy because we believe you have to do both to make sure we can build a clean energy future for ourselves. host: who started it? >> it was -- guest: it was started by a group of people but john adams was one of our founders and worked there for many years until he retired a few years ago. we have over 1.3 million members and activists right now, mostly in the united states but some from around the world. most of our work is done right here at home in the u.s. i've read -- we are an international program, we work throughout the americas and we have a branch in china. host: how would you describe china's environmental regulation at this point? guest: china is such a fascinating country, they're making huge strides forward on clean energy. and on trying to reduce their dependence on fossil fu

thank you for the nrdc. i am a member. guest: thank you for being a member. thank you. if there is an oil spill, you may have a farmers losing their jobs. their homes. their livelihood in america's heartland. i think that republicans, congress, the oil industry, are using the job issue as if somehow this single pipeline is a national jobs plan. people need jobs in the u.s.. what we need is not a single project, but a real plan for how our nation can move forward and grow stronger economically. clean energy is good for that, as opposed to dirty energy which has such high costs to our land, our water, and our climate. host: rick perry once again is suspended his campaign. we will have more on that as it develops. c-span radio and news update in just a few minutes. please go ahead with your question or comment. caller: i would like to ask your guests, since she is avoiding the question, if she gets any taxpayer money to support her organization. and, she avoided the question, does she own a car? the she fly? do you get on a plane? do you walk everywhere you go? i would lik