host: bob dean of nrdc. good morning. caller: i used to make my modest contributions to the nrdc. no more. the gentleman is so obviously political. he reminds me of tim kaine or somebody. i get other information from other sources including judicial watch. they offer some evidence about miss doings on the part of the epa. i'm in no position to debate mr. dean. i'm not calling for that purpose. but you sound like a hustler to me. host: when did your feelings about nrdc, when did that change? what issue did it change on? caller: as i began to get information about things that go on in the epa, that was contrary to my naive and idealized picture of the environmental movement. i'm not anti-environment at all. i am open to the idea that things are not entirely the way and man like mr. dean presents them. host: was it this administration or the previous administration? caller: during the obama administration. guest: thank you for the call. thank you for your past support. i hope one day you will come back. i can only tell you what we do. we tell the truth about what is happening to the