peak of the economic boom only about 10% of of estimates, only 10% of those in the country illegal nrp ag labor. it tends to be focused on ag labor, but there are any number of other industries that we need to continue to refresh the work force in. maybe it's hospitality and hotels and construction or landscaping or nursing as the secretary mentioned. there are a number of gaps in our work force in america. those gaps existed when the unemployment rate was 4%, and those gaps exist when the unemployment rate is 10%. many of these gaps have really not tracked the other macroeconomic trends affecting the labor force. >> let me jump in with the education implications with this. what we really all aim to want to work for is a market-based approach that makes sense based on the needs of the economy or work force whether it's nurses or engineers or folks in agriculture. so if we believe that we're in a global knowledge economy, which we do, then obviously education is the pathway to have that very skilled work force, whether it's technically or academically skilled, that's the -- that's how we'r