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what does that mean for the nsa?: every time a new technology comes about like skype, which is a free telephone service through your computer, it's very popular. it's beginning to make some inroads in the united states. who wants to pay verizon and at&t big bills every month. if you have a computer, you can call your mom or dad or free even if you are in botswana. every time a new technology comes around, the nsa's job gets 100% more difficult. anything that increases the volume of communications around world and makes it harder for nsa to gain access to, make the agency's job that much more difficult. it poses a real threat to its ability to produce intelligence. host: caller, go ahead. west virginia. caller: why haven't we seen anyone held accountable for all of the false prewar intelligence? i know there wert two phases of the senate's meetings on intelligence where the investigators were there, yet we have not seen any of those individuals held accountable. seymour hersh wrote an article in "to the new yorker." a
what does that mean for the nsa?: every time a new technology comes about like skype, which is a free telephone service through your computer, it's very popular. it's beginning to make some inroads in the united states. who wants to pay verizon and at&t big bills every month. if you have a computer, you can call your mom or dad or free even if you are in botswana. every time a new technology comes around, the nsa's job gets 100% more difficult. anything that increases the volume of...
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the nsa does exactly the same thing. system is much larger because it looks at maybe tens of thousands of names and phrases and names of countries. i always joke with my friends that every time i send them a copy of an article from newspapers about terrorist attacks, it will probably be forwarded immediately to some analysts at nsa. i guarantee that is one of the search terms nsa uses to determine whether some analysts ought to take a look at your communication. can you imagine how many "the new york times" article have buried in them somewhere the phrase "terrorist attack"? you have to feel sorry for the men and women at fort meade having to plow through all of this stuff. most of it is in name and thomas. they're looking for that one phone call in arabic maybe that the caller referred to that says a terrorist attack is starting tomorrow. that kind of thing is difficult and backbreaking. here's an example. the nsa intercepted two phone calls 48 hours before the 9/11 attacks. and as they did not get around to translating
the nsa does exactly the same thing. system is much larger because it looks at maybe tens of thousands of names and phrases and names of countries. i always joke with my friends that every time i send them a copy of an article from newspapers about terrorist attacks, it will probably be forwarded immediately to some analysts at nsa. i guarantee that is one of the search terms nsa uses to determine whether some analysts ought to take a look at your communication. can you imagine how many...
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what does that mean for the nsa?t: every time a new technology comes about like skype, which is a free telephone service through your computer, it's very popular. it's beginning to make some inroads in the united states. who wants to pay verizon and at&t big bills every month. if you have a computer, you can call your mom or dad or fre even if you are in botswana. every time a new technology comes around, the nsa's job gets 100% more difficult. anything that increases the volume of communications around world and makes it harder for nsa to gain access to, make the agency's job that much more difficult. it poses a real threat to its ability to produce intelligence. host: caller, go ahead. west virginia. caller: why haven't we seen anyone held accountable for all of the false prewar intelligence? i know there wert two phases of the senate's meetings on intelligence where the investigators were there, yet we have not seen any of those individuals held accountable. seymour hersh wrote an article in "to the new yorker." a
what does that mean for the nsa?t: every time a new technology comes about like skype, which is a free telephone service through your computer, it's very popular. it's beginning to make some inroads in the united states. who wants to pay verizon and at&t big bills every month. if you have a computer, you can call your mom or dad or fre even if you are in botswana. every time a new technology comes around, the nsa's job gets 100% more difficult. anything that increases the volume of...
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nsa touches dhs and defense. brian, why don't you start us off. >> i mentioned the cyber crime center at dot is the primary focal point. -- dod is the primary focal point. they were one of the centers developed with the national cyber crime initiative. they are interfacing on a daily basis with u.s. agencies. the dod crime center is into the law enforcement peace. -- piece. they also have direct ties in the u.s. strategic command. what is happening inside dot is also factored in. that goes on on a daily basis. -- dod is also factored in. obviously, you have different agencies and departments working in their own way, but we have named this effort work, so from the output, going to the defense industrial base is a product that is coordinated across the government. similarly, what is coming in from industry, those are also being shared with department of homeland security and other agencies. i think it is working here. like i said, it is a challenge for the director of their to work through these issues. if we are
nsa touches dhs and defense. brian, why don't you start us off. >> i mentioned the cyber crime center at dot is the primary focal point. -- dod is the primary focal point. they were one of the centers developed with the national cyber crime initiative. they are interfacing on a daily basis with u.s. agencies. the dod crime center is into the law enforcement peace. -- piece. they also have direct ties in the u.s. strategic command. what is happening inside dot is also factored in. that...
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the nsa has this huge enormous unbelievable paper pulp and plant. this is pulled, they gave me a bag of a process to highly classified in, it is still more is coming off a committee and they gave me this medal of the national security agency which i took back and we never have and never will, national security agency so i can put that, as a memento. but this is pulp, highly classified documents which once rd plus and they do i don't know how many hundreds of pounds a day of this, but then when it is complete and they sell it to wire house-senate which in turn in makes pizza boxes and bathroom tissue i am told so you never know what kind of a product you are using. >> here is what you call your library. >> for want of a more discreet word. >> in you have told me that these books are all double shelled. so my question is how you know, double shelf means there are books behind the books but how you know what is behind the books in the front? >> well, this library has been here for 20 years and i don't know it is particularly related but someone once as
the nsa has this huge enormous unbelievable paper pulp and plant. this is pulled, they gave me a bag of a process to highly classified in, it is still more is coming off a committee and they gave me this medal of the national security agency which i took back and we never have and never will, national security agency so i can put that, as a memento. but this is pulp, highly classified documents which once rd plus and they do i don't know how many hundreds of pounds a day of this, but then when...
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the head of the nsa said that they don't want this role. they don't want to be doing this. >> i think that there was some element of kabuki dance the men on their. -- dance going on there. there has not been the appointment of a chief technology officer yet into one of the reasons is that they are legitimately hung up on this. is there a need to have all of these agencies under one umbrella? is that our statement or our desire? there is a statement by people that have looked at this is that there is too much into agency back and forth. do you have any advice to offer the president? >> first of all, we generally stay away from this. we are always telling the government not to micromanage us. one of my board members would answer this metaphorically by saying that if the cyber system where a soldier on the battlefield with an open wound and the intelligence committee was the doctor, the intelligence committee's approach would be to look into the wound and say, why isn't that interesting? we need people who are going to fix it, not try to explo
the head of the nsa said that they don't want this role. they don't want to be doing this. >> i think that there was some element of kabuki dance the men on their. -- dance going on there. there has not been the appointment of a chief technology officer yet into one of the reasons is that they are legitimately hung up on this. is there a need to have all of these agencies under one umbrella? is that our statement or our desire? there is a statement by people that have looked at this is...
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my most intimate knowledge is with being director of nsa. contractors always took longer on clearing contractors because i put the priority on clearing government employees first. [inaudible] if you want to talk about counterintelligence risk -- the number of contractors is probably one of them. if you really want to hit the sweet spot for counterintelligence risk, the fact that we want to bring more people into our intelligence community -- first generation americans with patriotism and wonderful skills. and equally strong trend is that once you are in -- remembering not existing in silos? once you are in, any individual has greater opportunity to access information across the board. if i am the head of foreign intelligence service, and if the american service is hiring your first generation -- my eyes would be dilating in my mouth would be silent -- salivating. i am a supporter of both those trends i just identified. if you're going to go down that path, you also have to reinvest in counterintelligence because you have opened up additional
my most intimate knowledge is with being director of nsa. contractors always took longer on clearing contractors because i put the priority on clearing government employees first. [inaudible] if you want to talk about counterintelligence risk -- the number of contractors is probably one of them. if you really want to hit the sweet spot for counterintelligence risk, the fact that we want to bring more people into our intelligence community -- first generation americans with patriotism and...
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the department of defense and the nsa had begun to move out on this. we are not sitting still. is that enough? well, so far we have been lucky. will we eventually get caught if we do not change have? yes, but we will definitely get caught. everyone understands that cyber security is a priority, but what they don't understand this is priority number 123. hopefully, we will continue to look out. when the to clean up our act. >> does anybody want to throw out names of who they are expecting to be the cyber czar? does anybody want the job of a cyber czar? assuming that there are no more questions from the audience, i think we can probably give is should -- to give a bit of a closing statement on what we need to focus on and whether the outlook is grim and if we can have some of the dozen. kim? >> i am the glass is half full guy after all. we're entering the third phase which has the context of the discussion that we did this morning. in my view, this will be led by folks like you that will become the reference accounts that the larger population will use. my hope, today was to take
the department of defense and the nsa had begun to move out on this. we are not sitting still. is that enough? well, so far we have been lucky. will we eventually get caught if we do not change have? yes, but we will definitely get caught. everyone understands that cyber security is a priority, but what they don't understand this is priority number 123. hopefully, we will continue to look out. when the to clean up our act. >> does anybody want to throw out names of who they are expecting...
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you imagine bill clinton marching into the white house or over to langley to debrief the cia or the nsa about what's going on in pyongyang these days with him being the best witness to it. >> reporter: no doubt. this is something clearly the top level of government knew that bill clinton was doing. that was one of the questions, did hillary know her husband was going on this trip, ha, ha, ha. does it undermine her authority? does it make her more powerful because she has bill clinton in her back pocket and can use him on these diplomatic missions? that's going to definitely be the story line. but i think, david, to answer your question, what is significant that some of the right are criticizing that bill clinton is allowing him and the u.s. to use him as a propaganda tool, but i wonder if there's some intelligence that bill clinton can also bring back. if he is meeting with kim jong-il who has supposedly been ill, whether he can deliver some information about the types of things they tried to engage the u.s. on and whether that's helpful to our interests in some way. i think that's part
you imagine bill clinton marching into the white house or over to langley to debrief the cia or the nsa about what's going on in pyongyang these days with him being the best witness to it. >> reporter: no doubt. this is something clearly the top level of government knew that bill clinton was doing. that was one of the questions, did hillary know her husband was going on this trip, ha, ha, ha. does it undermine her authority? does it make her more powerful because she has bill clinton in...
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gulf war, and in that i dealt with the united nations special commission on iraq, the cia, the dia, nsa, the national reconnaissance office, and in all those cases we touched again the scott speicher case, and it was a big old mess. >> listen, i want to take you back to 1991 when the then secretary of defense, dick cheney, declared speicher to be dead along with the joint chiefs chairman then which was colin powell. take a listen, ken. >> would you please describe the plane that went down on the american side, the type of plane, number of casualties. >> it involves a single casua y casualty. i don't know that we want to identify the aircraft, do we? >> it was an f-18. >> a wound or a death? >> a death. >> what other information do you have about casualties? >> all i can give you at this time is the total u.s. losses are one aircraft and one individual. >> so the only definitive answers we're getting is from that day up until now, that day he went missing, believed to have crashed. now they have recovered his body and what happened in the middle is still sort of a mystery here. >> and th
gulf war, and in that i dealt with the united nations special commission on iraq, the cia, the dia, nsa, the national reconnaissance office, and in all those cases we touched again the scott speicher case, and it was a big old mess. >> listen, i want to take you back to 1991 when the then secretary of defense, dick cheney, declared speicher to be dead along with the joint chiefs chairman then which was colin powell. take a listen, ken. >> would you please describe the plane that...
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gulf war, and in that i dealt with the united nations special commission on iraq, the cia, the dia, nsa, the national reconnaissance office, and in all those cases we touched again the scott speicher case, and it was a big old mess. >> listen, i want to take you back to 1991 when the then secretary of defense, dick cheney, declared speicher to be dead along with the joint chiefs chairman then which was colin powell. take a listen, ken. >> would you please describe the plane that went down on the american side, the type of plane, number of casualties. >> it involves a single casualty. i don't know that we want to identify the aircraft, do we? >> it was an f-18. >> was it a wound or a death? >> a death. >> what other information do you have about casualties? >> all i can give you at this time is the total u.s. losses are one aircraft and one individual. >> so the only definitive answers we're getting is from that day up until now, that day he went missing, believed to have crashed. now they have recovered his body and what happened in the middle is still sort of a mystery here. >> and the
gulf war, and in that i dealt with the united nations special commission on iraq, the cia, the dia, nsa, the national reconnaissance office, and in all those cases we touched again the scott speicher case, and it was a big old mess. >> listen, i want to take you back to 1991 when the then secretary of defense, dick cheney, declared speicher to be dead along with the joint chiefs chairman then which was colin powell. take a listen, ken. >> would you please describe the plane that...
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meek he nsa that the objective place is a fictional device.nd a french critic said him something that i extrapolate this way someone came down from another planet you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the storytelling of the novelist and the storytelling of the fiction and he said there can be no facts without meaning so what fact as the historian choose to put together to create his picture, his understanding, his interpretation and what fact does he leave out? misfud this genial collegial argument with many historians and there is no way to settle this discussion. they're really isn't. but i'm committed to the idea that there is -- storytelling is the most ancient system of knowledge that we have, and there's some stories in the bronx where people put the bible of the old testament together working on their system that it was the only system they had, and so there's audience was religious. they didn't separate the function of language like we do so we have science and religion and daily communication, poetry, all these things,
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when i went on the ground there early in the war, head of the nsa said to me, joe, the problem with thes we don't have any actionable intelligence. that is, making the move so that we can pick up where they are. and they can quietly sit there and plan against us another potential 9/11. we cannot permit a safe haven for planning against us from the al qaeda who got us on 9/11. that's the real objective. >> you're willing to give up american lives on an open-ended policy, and also billions of dollars, we don't know how long we're going to be there -- this is iraq all over again, isn't it? >> no, i made it very clear, when i was director of defense policy at the white house and clinton administration we always had an exit strategy. >> okay, so -- >> let the public know, are we succeeding or not? and our public needs -- it's why i voted for that amendment jim mcgovern submitted and it failed to pass the house of representatives. we didn't even have enough democrats for it. we need a measurement of our success or failure so then we can make a decision, is it worth it? we don't have it. >> fo
when i went on the ground there early in the war, head of the nsa said to me, joe, the problem with thes we don't have any actionable intelligence. that is, making the move so that we can pick up where they are. and they can quietly sit there and plan against us another potential 9/11. we cannot permit a safe haven for planning against us from the al qaeda who got us on 9/11. that's the real objective. >> you're willing to give up american lives on an open-ended policy, and also billions...
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that we work with the cia, the fbi, the nsa, the dni, we work with a number of agencies on that.en and women in those agencies are very dedicated to that mission and they remain so. >> thank you very much, janet napolitano. you've got a lot on your plate. thanks for taking time for us today. >> you bet. >>> and coming up, north korea issues another invitation for nuclear talks with the united states, but the white house says that it is staying with multi-party, six-party talks. that strategy to be reviewed, former secretary of state madeleine albright just returned from south korea and will be joining us next on "andrea mitchell reports." g cross county in this small sidecar, but i've still got room for the internet. with my new netbook from at&t. with its built-in 3g network, it's fast and small, so it goes places other laptops can't. i'm bill kurtis, and wherever i go, i've got plenty of room for the internet. and the nation's fastest 3g network. gun it, mick. (announcer) sign up today and get a netbook for $199.99 after mail-in rebate. with built-in access to the nation's fast
that we work with the cia, the fbi, the nsa, the dni, we work with a number of agencies on that.en and women in those agencies are very dedicated to that mission and they remain so. >> thank you very much, janet napolitano. you've got a lot on your plate. thanks for taking time for us today. >> you bet. >>> and coming up, north korea issues another invitation for nuclear talks with the united states, but the white house says that it is staying with multi-party, six-party...
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part two is the inspector general report came out one month ago about the nsa surveillance program, but what i found interesting was that they interviewed 200 people involved in the program, including yourself and current officials, as well as private sector people. however, none of the private sector people were identified. shouldn't we as american citizens know who these high level people are working for our intelligence since companies like booz allen and as a i see are doing such high-level work for the intelligence agencies? should we know who these companies are? thank you. >> with regard to your first question, i am not very creative. everything i said this morning about contractors i said in 2006 as director of the agency. it was about us and not contractors. my affiliation with michael chertoff was made quite public, and i do identify myself as a member of the chertoff group in any public discourse. with regard to the ig report, i will take no ownership over that. i was one of the 200 people who were interviewed. there were some people who were not interviewed, and there was an
part two is the inspector general report came out one month ago about the nsa surveillance program, but what i found interesting was that they interviewed 200 people involved in the program, including yourself and current officials, as well as private sector people. however, none of the private sector people were identified. shouldn't we as american citizens know who these high level people are working for our intelligence since companies like booz allen and as a i see are doing such high-level...
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president clinton has debriefed with nsa staff twice and i have discussed events extensively with the state department and other agencies. that is from this morning. i assume so, yes. >> on reports that jerusalem has stopped settlements on the west bank, is there an answer to the president's demand that saddam and stop all? >> i do not want to -- i will echo what i think you heard the president say in the oval office today. we have made good progress on this and other issues with the israelis on both sides. i think we are moving forward in a process that continues today president mubarak -- with president mubarak been here to discuss peace in the middle east. >> it seems that he said there had been progress but it has not gone far enough. >> i would not say that. we are pleased and the president has been pleased that progress has been made. i will say this. i think as bears mention every time we talk about this. and i said this this morning soap let me reiterate it. these are not steps for one side to take. the president has been in discussion with president mubarak about the responsi
president clinton has debriefed with nsa staff twice and i have discussed events extensively with the state department and other agencies. that is from this morning. i assume so, yes. >> on reports that jerusalem has stopped settlements on the west bank, is there an answer to the president's demand that saddam and stop all? >> i do not want to -- i will echo what i think you heard the president say in the oval office today. we have made good progress on this and other issues with...
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right around that spring, there was a significant episode involving a dispute over nsa domestic surveillance in which bush lost, but it's in cheney to some degree. he became aware that cheney could lead him off a cliff. but i have no reason to believe that bush never took seriously the idea of dropping him. host: and there has also been some allusions, based on your reporting, that the two were not really close friends during their eight years in the white house. guest: they were not friends. they did not socialize come and dine together. there was a emotional moment when john kerry conceded it when they're look like there might be a dispute. and george bush is a hugger, and he started toward cheney with his arms out, and he stopped myself like i know you are not the hugging kind, and that is when they had a handshake. host: abc news used a exit last night about his response to the park were, and his response was, so? talked-about the response to the public sentiment. guest: dick cheney is the model politician. it is kind of like choosing a surgeon. after that, -- cheney believes that the go
right around that spring, there was a significant episode involving a dispute over nsa domestic surveillance in which bush lost, but it's in cheney to some degree. he became aware that cheney could lead him off a cliff. but i have no reason to believe that bush never took seriously the idea of dropping him. host: and there has also been some allusions, based on your reporting, that the two were not really close friends during their eight years in the white house. guest: they were not friends....
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part of the air force funding is believed to go to fund nsa and cia programs. classified programs, there has been a mixed record of success. there are notable ones like the stealth fighter. that has proven to be successful weapons system. the b-22 ran into problems. congress was not willing to continue to fund it. it stopped at 21 aircraft, far shorter than what they intended. there is the future it imagery architecture. they ran into problems with the electrical component of the satellite. they had to cancel it. it was reportedly at a $4 billion loss to the government that they canceled it after spending that much money and not getting much out of it. there is a mixed record of success for classified programs. it does make up a significant part of the dod budget. another thing i want to point out in part of this year's budget process is the unfunded priorities. every year since 1995, the services have been passed by congress to submit these lists of unfunded priorities. this is kind of a wish list. sometimes people call unfunded requirements. the services. tog
part of the air force funding is believed to go to fund nsa and cia programs. classified programs, there has been a mixed record of success. there are notable ones like the stealth fighter. that has proven to be successful weapons system. the b-22 ran into problems. congress was not willing to continue to fund it. it stopped at 21 aircraft, far shorter than what they intended. there is the future it imagery architecture. they ran into problems with the electrical component of the satellite....
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if nsa misheard in the cayman islands.you ed to have all kindsf things that money isn't enough hmmm. it is a major effort. also, i am so grateful and so patient. you deserve some magic. i willo a revelation and talk about how the is going to be classified section. i can tell you what going to be in that section, the same stuff. just look at the old things, some stuff from numbers of systems which we know any way you, what they're going to have, and arms control agreement because it could be nothing serious, it is not the operational plan. 70 things can be said about nuclear deterrents at work. st basically 1-way. that is what is going to be there. how americans do that? they classifier part of their most unfortunate -- we are going to classify stuff too. it gets more and more attention. it is ally interesting. the russians may have some trump cards up their sleeve. anyway, that is my magic for the day. >> do you want to go ahead? an expert in the russian nuclear issue, get your comments on it. >> just one quick comment, it
if nsa misheard in the cayman islands.you ed to have all kindsf things that money isn't enough hmmm. it is a major effort. also, i am so grateful and so patient. you deserve some magic. i willo a revelation and talk about how the is going to be classified section. i can tell you what going to be in that section, the same stuff. just look at the old things, some stuff from numbers of systems which we know any way you, what they're going to have, and arms control agreement because it could be...