that failure of oversight is that when the whistleblower protection acts were passed, the fbi, cia, nsa and other intelligence agencies were exempted from the protections so that employees of these agencies do not have the right to report when they see malfeasance or abuse or misconduct that actually a post is-- poses a risk for national security and that is why we feel it is tremendously important to include those encies within the protections so that we can better enhance our security by allowing those employees to report this abuse. particularly to congress, because of course when it is laid out, the problems in the chstmas event, it laid claim that the fbi, cia, nsa and the national counterterrorism center that it didn't reflect its own blame that it has helped pass these enhanced protections for national security agencies and intelligence whistleblowers. they bill in the house, h.r. 1507, passed twice already over the years. it is really the gold standard where we would like to see a national security whistleblowers protected. it basically removes the exemption and gives them the s

health through a special's women initiative i've begun working on new ways to help the women of the nsa and in the middle east and to promote education and literacy are the millions to help alphabets are a mystery and basic edition of complex puzzle. enter the do, we'll help to promote basic human freedom for these women and their families. but as much as i treasure my public life, i.e. also treasure the quiet -- the quiet of my private one. sometime during that first spring and summer back in texas, i began to feel the buoyant the of my own newfound freedom. after nearly eight years of hypervigilance, of watching for the next danger or tragedy that might be coming, i could at last exhale. i could simply be. when i wave my activist eyes to see the drift of the clouds, the brightness of the blues or the moon and the ever shifting arrangement of the stars. look up lost. i can still hear my mother say with a hint of on and wonder. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much. [applause] >> thank you all. tank you so much. thanks everybody. [cheers and applause] >> for more information visit

their posting and if they sit in the cockney for six the connecticut free train travel anywhere in the nsa. this was really the beginning of working women in america. these women were adventurous laments come in the first wheel to travel by themselves good they were second third generations here today. i met a couple here today. kansas city is crawling with them. most of the fred -- [laughter] in fact, most of the fred herbie cities of which you know there are many are crawling with the descendents of santa fe railroad in santa fe hervey employs the way my site is the outpouring of enthusiasm for this book has been great because the stories being told the way they know the story, not the sort of made that judy garland movie story. it's got my size, but they mean really. and these are smart harvey crow pictures some of which have never been seen before. and now in the later years, as i said he died in 1901. the business is still based here, but the business expanded. some of you know there was a depression where someone were living through now, worse in the 1930's and 1890's through the san

your we are eight years later these people still living in the united states -- >> host: the complex nsa operation at the beginning of the george w. bush administration where we were using -- trying to digest that information to get who was al qaeda calling in the united states and why. >> guest: that's right. and there it was in black and white. >> host: well, one of the really most exciting parts of your book is your capture of zubaydah, this high-ranking al l qaeda officials. can you take us through that? >> guest: sure. in february 2002 we got word from headquarters the abu zubaydah was somewhere in pakistan and that is all they said was he was somewhere in pakistan. >> host: do you know him by the name of the time? >> guest: we did. we thought at the time that he was the number three ranking person in al qaeda. that turned out to topics ackle teacher because of the time we didn't realize khalid sheikh mohammed was an al qaeda or pledged to osama bin laden abu zubaydah was probably a little bit lower ranking but still within the leadership. we knew that he was the commander of the la

that failure of oversight is that when the whistleblower protection acts were passed, the fbi, cia, nsa and other intelligence agencies were exempted from the protections so that employees of the agencies do not have the right to report when they see malfeasance or abuse or misconduct that actually a post is-- poses a risk for national security and that is why we feel it is tremendously important to include those agencies within the protections so that we can better enhance our security by allowing those employees to report this abuse. particularly to congress, because of course when it is laid out, the problems in the christmas event, it laid claim that the fbi, cia, nsa and the national counterterrism center that it didn't reflect its own blame that it has helped pass these enhanced protections for national security agencies and intelligence whistleblowers. they bill in the house, h.r. 1507, passed twice already over the years. it is really the gold standard where we would like to see a national security whistleblowers otected. basically removes the exemption and gives them the same r

were any of the center directors and nsa consulted? >> senator nelson, may i answer the question because if it is possible, because i think i know the answer better than dr. holdren in this particular case because-- i became the nasa administrator in july. beginning in august, there was a very smart young man who is sitting behind you on your right, who was my brain, my strategic brain by the name of tom clements and then he will tell you beginning in august, we had periodic, a series of strategic planning meetings among the senior leadership of nahich included the associate administrators and everything in nasa. this went on for a number of months, and during that period of time, because i am a marine, and i include the space shuttle where you know we do disasr training, we discussed every potential outcome of the budget and i spent probably a month where i asked everybody to list the worst-case scenario, which was you know, what happens if everything goes away and we get nothing and we have to start from scratch. we knew that would n

the intelligence committee, you don't have to be an nsa or the cia to know that is a very easy thing to do. so, making the phone call is in fact not reporting the danger. it's putting your own job in danger. that is what it comes down to for me to ring and i would like to say to mr. watzman coming to where the head of a very large corporation. i think our president roberts said about 86% of the coal operators that operate in the mines -- look-see 6% -- to a good job. i've had the same phone calls that you have to read people who are on that list but don't want to be on the lesser shocked and they want to do something about it. on the other hand there are some that don't that proud -- proudly flaunt that they built and perhaps two hours of every day of every year to find out of how the safety a stream that how the production is coming along. i am talking fairly specific here. why is it that you haven't stood up in this association? i have so many operators coming to me disavowing any relationship with this particular company which is in fact involved in all of the recent, aracoma, sag