okay, nsa put simply, nsa is, nsa has basically two primary missions. it has a host of coronary missions, and basically it does two things and to things only. it is the nation's eavesdropper, which probably accounts for 60, 70% of its effort. and it is responsible for protecting the government's communications infrastructure weatherby computers, e-mails, and how it does it. well, okay, i'll. benny: it in general terms. -- i'll speak to it in a general terms that i hearken to the fact that i is so many of you have children or grandchildren who are enamored of cell phones and have the registers in their hands at all times racking up huge bills. nsa, i will give you a very good example. in baghdad in 2007 for general david petraeus sent over to baghdad iraq's security situation, it is fading rapidly, but i said i can fix it for you, mr. president. he goes over to baghdad, and first thing that he is confronted with is we knew very little about the organization of the iraqi insurgents and al qaeda in iraq. it turns out that nsa had come up with a couple love

nsa has been the exact opposite. basically everything i have asked for the have given me in putting for my book, my new book on obama and the intelligence community is the giving me material about activities in afghanistan and iraq and global war on terrorism which is quite remarkable and i think i would be remiss if i didn't zoos them and i did in the forward to my book but tom johnson and bob and a host of other historians literally made my job so much easier. they basically allowed me -- i spent 25 years piecing together little bits and pieces of nsa's history and when the classified their tomes for my book, literally it was like everything opened up. all of the little bits and pieces that i had been accumulating for over two decades suddenly became clear and it was only when the nsa began to classifying this material beginning in the late 1990's that i was able to write this book in a cogent and organized fashion. before that my book was basically the entire order of nsa. i knew where every officer had been, offi

nsa 9.let's not confuse these with the districts, by the way. we did show a decrease from last year to this year, and that is really primarily due to the lower great highways, which often actually gets lower scores. it has an infrastructure problem in terms of some of the aesthetic features there, such as the fences that are not fully functioning well, etc. if you are familiar with it, you know. particularly from the third to fourth quarter this year, it drops primarily because of low scores for lawns and restaurants. again, a snapshot in time that it did not do well. then, in nsa 6, we attribute that drop, which is just 1%, but we attributed to the fact that we had a staff member functioning in 3 management roles for most of last year. and he really had his attention spread in many different directions, and when i talk to him about an example, he is solely focused on the management. he would do drive buys to the facility and often proactively be able to identify a problem, and colorado staf

do we run the risk in cyberspace of creating similar walls between nsa and, nsa and fbi and if so, whatolicy measures can we take to prevent it? >> again this is my personal opinion. our system require some of those walls. it is going to add in some inefficiencies or some imperfections in our ability to do security. as a citizen i am okay with some of those, but as paul mentioned it is not a suicide pact. so we have got to find ways to do it correctly. one of the things that we did and this is not a cyberexample but when we had the d.c. snipers, we use military technology to try and find those guys. that required a presidential finding. it required special sections be built so the law enforcement guys could use those technologies and protect the information all with the kind of protections that jay points to that we need. we need need to do that sort of stuff in cyber as well. will it make it harder to secure cyberspace? absolutely. is it worth it? yeah, i think so because i kind of value our privacy and civil liberties. but we have got to find a way to do it smart. privacy and civil li

today, a lot of heavy rain moving through nsas, oklahoma, north texas, most of iowa will get drenched during the day today. we've had thunderstorms moving out of western cans into ctral kansas right up interstate 35, across interstate 70 around topeka. expect a wet morning commute and eventually that will move into kansas city. we're expecting 2 to 3 inches of rain in this area today and tonight. the forecast for the middle of the nation is for wet weathe but from the southeast of florida up the eastern seaboard, it's a gorgeous friday. that's a look at your forecast. now here is a look at the weather outside your window. look at birmgham, alama, that's a beautiful day. 75 degrees. and it's warm out ahead of this storm system. even st. louis will be 75 degrees today. alba bishgky, you're on the cold side of the storm, the backside. that's why it's only 52. weekend forecasts are coming up, veronica. >> a gorgeous weend here in new york. i'm looking forward to it. thank you, bill. >>> cisco tumbles, disney jumps the gun and computer history for sale. your early morning busins headlines

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given the resources we have here with additional cuts, you saw that -- i think it was in district 64 nsa 3 where we had some staffing, where lidia pointed out that there are some vacancies. that really translates into lower scores. less resources, lower scores. that is something we need to keep in mind as we continue to grapple with the public policy debates about revenue generation versus service cuts. >> i just wanted to tell you that this is a great report, and something we do not here, but it was really great because i read through this myself, and i did not know all the stuff that was there. it was really great, and i enjoyed it. one of the things i missed was going out to the golf course. i love going out there, and i had my grandson out there for two years, but there was so much stuff, and this was very intelligent today. commissioner buell: good. i might say there is no question that we are faced with cuts again next year, which means that everybody has to get on the same page of finding a sustainable funding mechanism for the parks, and there are ideas out there. there are propo

that may not work and so we look at the other agencies like the cia and nsa and those things that hopefully will inform us about plots that ma be taking place in the u.s. that may not happen and so my former colleagues in the fbi, hopefully today or the 8000 police officers and sheriff's deputies would be in for because bait hear something and say something or there is a threat. that may not be the case. when it comes down to tsa, we are the last lines of defense for the u.s. government. whether it is a behavior detection officer for the swabbing of hands to pick up trace residue or the pat down, if someone gets through all that and is able to get on that plane, we are down to the federal air marshals to be the last line of defense or maybe army pilots on board. -- or maybe arm pilots on board. >> the passenger that is taking a flight in this country today, they know by reading the newspapers and seeing your actions that the threats have increased but also your activities have increased in response. should they feel there is slightly less brisk, the same risk, or more arrests? >> hopefully

we have detailed these over at nsa to help integrate information are talking about. additionally, we have what are called legal address is in over 61 countries around the world who work with their law enforcement and intelligence partners to discuss issues like you mentioned. so i think we have taken a very collaborative approach. we recognize that. here in united states, as you know, the nctc and the nsc has taken a coordination role as far as the policy. so that's how we're addressing that. >> john, the federal government struggles with the fact that it doesn't get community affairs. the federal government is a limited government mostly here in washington. local agency do community affairs. they interacted with a different communities. so this is something where people expect the federal government to take a significant role, domestic counterradicalization but the -- just because of what we are. the nypd for four years there's community affairs is a big deal. it's not run by counterterrorism, but we have people interact with every single community and fashionable.

be, who briefed the president every day and was the person who brought in the cia intelligence and nsa intelligence and brief the president every day was on this program recently. here is what he said about iran and the nuclear weapon. here it is. >> if i had to have one choice, but i wouldn't bet my national policy on that. i would make a national policy if i were still in government that had the breadth to cover both possibilities. because as i said iran hasn't made up its mind. we don't know who will win in this argument so we have to be ready either way. >> iran has not made up its mind. >> iran has not made up its mind. the supreme leader has not yet spoken. >> here is the plan who is in charge of reporting to the president and american intelligence saying iran has not made up its mind about whether it wants nuclear weapons and they're opposing arguments. and that the supreme leader will decide. is that accurate. >> well, i'm sorry for the president for this bad advice. we made our mind very clearly and very rigorously. we do not want arm ament, nuclear arm ament. this is definite

really a historic agreement with respect to how our departments would interact and how we both use the nsa and how we would leverage each other's capabilities in the right way. obviously on the civilian side we have privily and civil liberties concerns from the very beginning to make sure we are moving how the of cyber security. but i will share with you i think that's probably the fastest evolving sorts of threats that we have. >> charlie: how do they play out? >> a variety of ways. you've got the hacker, the denial of service attacks, you've got the viruses of all different types of dimensions. so in the cyber world you see a whole variety of activity. >> charlie: so what's next for you? once you give this job up are you going to go back and run for office? >> i'll tell you, this job is such a big one, it's hard to anticipate the next thing. >> charlie: maybe being attorney general because you have a legal background. >> being attorney general that's a great job as well but these are great big important public service jobs. i said when i was in college when i was asked what i wanted to d

but dod and nsa have such extraordinary to the belief that they can inform what -- extraordinary capabilities that they conform with -- inform what dhs does. it was a homeland security that have the comprehensive capability to unravel the puzzle, if you will. we need your help, and i appreciate your commitment to that, general. thank you for your service to the country. you are extraordinarily prepare for this assignment of the country as ask for you. general ham, i want to ask about the working group on don't ask don't tell. first, i appreciate that you've told us this morning that the report will be out by december 1, if possible, working with the esotery earlier to complete the work. -- working with the secretary earlier to complete the work for a want to ask about the table of contents. they're often focus on the leaks that have been surveyed -- there is in focus on leaks of the surveys of military personnel. but am i right is that that is just part of what you were going to do? could you just describe what else you and mr. johnson in 10 to cover in the report? -- intended to cover in the

he was trying to get information out about an nsa program that was costing too much money and that was his primary motive. if the standards that judgeellis set is the standard that the government go by -- >> he was not being charged with espionage. he was charged with mishandling. >> for not returning it. >> that is not the only charge. >> there are a few things. decision is not binding but he was the first one to articulate this. apa all thec espionage case, most of the instances were a government official. when you get a classified document, you'll have already signed up for the classification process for you have undertaken nondisclosure. you have waived your first amendment rights. for the privilege of serving the public and for getting classified information, you have a heightened responsibility. when you prosecute somebody who is a government official who has not -- who has promised not to disclose government information, the standards are not the same that would apply to the non- government official who received it. this case called uponjudge ellis, it was the first time what st

the focus on issues like asia, big tower competition to the question, what does this change at the nsamean for the air force and do you agree that a refocus on big power capability is needed? >> christa falcon let me recognize jim and diane jones has been wonderful public servants over many, many decades. as you well are aware serve the the commandant of the supreme court, commander of europe and then came out of retirement to do this job and certainly did well. the reality is in my role as an organized training equipped individual and as an air force with the national security council deals with on a daily basis has relatively little effect in terms of the larger organized training equatorial. it certainly has impact on how we employ, where we go and what we do and so on. so i think fundamentally i think the change will be transparent. both are very talented individuals. i know both of them well, and the united states air force again willful phyllis requirements through operating in the ways that are whistling in leadership mandates. >> this questions about military health care costs.

. >> all circulate through the audience now in a semi-random fashion, trying get as many questions nsa can. to request, one that you wait until the microphone actually arrives before starting your question and secondly he let me hold onto that make. this long-standing security foreign policy. >> so what you both have been saying obviously has huge implications for a strategy would retail at iraq and afghanistan for any of these issues. as a government, how do you think we can set it up so we can better learn these lessons in the future so that has been said here they don't just become encapsulated, put on the shelf and forgotten? >> well, we've kind of of taken on squarely by producing a lessons learned series. impressing those lessons at the department of defense into the congress. the lessons, as stephen was talking about, disorganized and improperly overseen in contracting within the department of defense and the department of state. the lessons of needing to figure out how we do police training. huge programs, both in iraq and afghanistan, done completely different fashions. but th

he was trying to get information out about an nsa program that was costing too much money and that was his primary motive. if the standards that judgeellis set is the standard that the government go by -- >> he was not being charged with espionage. he was charged with mishandling. >> for not returning it. >> that is not the only charge. >> there are a few things. decision is not binding but he was the first one to articulate this. apa all thec espionage case, most of the instances were a government official. when you get a classified document, you'll have already signed up for the classification process for you have undertaken nondisclosure. you have waived your first amendment rights. for the privilege of serving the public and for getting classified information, you have a heightened responsibility. when you prosecute somebody who is a government official who has not -- who has promised not to disclose government information, the standards are not the same that would apply to the non- government official who received it. this case called uponjudge ellis, it was the first time what st

but dod and, of course, nsa have such extraordinary capabilities that they can now inform what dhs does i appreciate that. our committees are going to continue to work together. i was actually very proud yesterday that all the witnesses agreed that it was the -- a group at the department of homeland security more than anybody in the private sector or anywhere else that actually had the comprehensive capability to unravel the puzzle if you will. but we need your help and i appreciate your commitment to that, general. i look forward working with you on both committees. thank you both for your service to our country. you're both just extraordinarily prepared for this next assignment that the country has asked of you. general ham, i just want to ask a quick question about the working group on don't ask, don't tell. first i appreciate that you've told us this morning that the report will definitely be out by december 1st and if possible, working with the secretary earlier if you complete the work. i wanted to ask you just for informational purposes, not about the contents but in a sense abou

we've received affidavits from the head of the cia, the fbi, nsa, the the part of defense, and other the affidavits were classified but i can tell you the public portion indicated for one detainee and for every detainee, hundreds of thousands of documents would have to be produced, many of them top-secret, and the deposited where? the constitution of the courthouse? this is far from wrong. if there is an evidentiary hearing in the proceedings, what sort of evidence can the government use and satisfying its burden if house one? ken eight introduce here say? may it relied on classified intelligence reports? muskett share the reports with the detainee or the council? what of confidential informants? should the government be required to expose the informant's identity, produce the individual for questioning? give the detainee all the statements the informative snead to the military and the cia? part of the al qaeda training manual have been introduced in several of the habeas corpus cases. the manual instructs those who are captured to lobby to their captors to make up stories to recount

department of common security for civilian infrastructure and non-defense web sites, but dot and the nsa have extraordinary capabilities that they can now inform what dhs does. i was very proud yesterday that all of the witnesses agreed that it was a group at the department of homeland security that actually had a comprehensive capability to unravel the puzzle if you will. we need your help and i appreciate your commitment and i look forward to working with you on both committees. thank you both for your service to our country. you are both extraordinarily prepared for this next assignment. and when to ask a quick question about the working group on a don't ask, don't tell. i appreciate that you have told us this morning that the report will definitely be out by december 1 and a possible earlier working with the secretary if you complete the work. i wanted to ask you just for informational purposes, not about the content, but about the table of contents. that is just one part of what you are going to do. in summary, i wanted to know what else you may cover in the report. >> in those term

he was trying to get out w information about an nsa program thatto was being mismanaged and costing too much money and was being bungled. and that was his primary motive. and if standard that judge ellis set as quoted by baruch is the standard -- >> yeah, but he's not charged with espionage, and that's probably exactly why. he's being charged with bei mishandling the information, isn't that right? >> that's not the only charge. >> let me address that. first, from a technical perspective, judge ellis' decision is not binding. he was the first one to articulate this because he got this very hard case. until this aipac espionage casea most cases where the government used was against a government official who when you get a classified document, you've already signed up for the classification process.e al you've undertaken nondisclosurer you've waived many of your first amendment rights, and the supreme court has really sot ri held. in other words, for the privilege of serving the public and for getting classified information, you have a heightened responsibility. for and so when you prosecu

we've got some of the brightest people working in the intelligence community who work at nsa. these people are smart. were they not involved in the process? they could have designed a something that got the information to the people that needed it and put up security firewalls to make sure it would be very, very difficult for people who were not authorized to get access. we have to go back. i have no doubt that we have people in the intel system and can design them much more effectively than what we have. linda, the bottom line is we have a shooting war going on in afghanistan, pakistan, we have the threats coming from yemen and these times of thing. >> we leave now as the senate gavels back in following a recess. it's expected that connecticut's chris dodd will be recognized to give his farewell speech. live coverage here on c-span2. arrive as a senator or shortly thereafter and then any closing remarks you may have. i can't recall what my maiden speech was even about 36 years ago in the house of representatives, except that i do recall very vividly that there was no one else

security for these civilian infrastructure and the federal government nondefense websites, but dod and nsahave such extraordinary capabilities can inform what dhs does. i appreciate that our committees are working to together. i was proud that all the witnesses agreed that a group at the department of homeland security more than anyone else in the private sector or anyone else had the comprehensive capability to unravel the stuck's net puzzle if you will. we need your help, and i appreciate your commitment to that, general. we work forward to working with you own both committees. thank you to you about for your service to the country and being prepared for this assignment that the country asked of you. general ham, i have a quick question on the working group of don't ask, don't tell. first, i appreciate that you told us this morning that the report will be out by december 1st, and if possible along working with the secretary earlier if you complete the work. i wanted to ask you for informational purposes about the table of contents. there's been a lot of focus on the leaks about the surve