the investigation and audit of the nsa.d thomas, a former material witness and was then charged with violating the espionage act. i've got to say, gentlemen, i've been in law enforcement a fair number of years. the three of you look like the quintessential fbi-c.i.a. agents, and here you are as whistle blowers. that's why i think it's so critical the public see you. bill, tell me what motivated you to raise these issues and what they were about. >> well, to start with i developed the program in nsa to mine massivesive amounts of data to detect foreign threats. then after 9/11 they decided to turn that capability against every in the country, everyone in the united states. and they started by taking commercial data in from at&t on everyone approximately 3 oh 20 million calls a day were recorded by this device. that was just the initial participation. >> can i interrupt for just a second. >> yes. >> the domestic was not within the nsa domain. >> no, the charter was for foreign intelligence. >> not nsa. >> they can with a warr

we believe with a partnership between the department of defense and doe and nsa, we can accomplish the construction of this facility. we have two amendments. the first one brings the department of defense in with their expertise for that construction. i want to put a footnote on that. this is very much like how the private sector would undertake a construction project and partly why nsa has struggled. they've been trying to undertake this alone. in the private sector you bring a contractor, construction manager, tenant lessee, you bring forth the owner. in this instance, what we're trying to do by legislation, bring all these parties together so we can accomplish the construction of building nsa is failing at. with the president's own words, is the essential for us to maintain our nuclear deterrent. i want to thank the chairman for their support for this nuclear facility and having these two facilities, cmrr and ntf to be undertaken with nocar facilities. >> thank you. i yield back to miss sanchez for five minutes. >> mr. chairman, i am against this amendment number 47. basically, what

development of an intelligence capacity, breaking down of the walls between ourselves and cia, nsa, and the intelligence community, but i think always in the back of our mind, everyone at the bureau knew we could not let this happen again. on that day, i felt like that high school student who got the wrong assignment when the president asked that question, but it has been in the back of my mind since then. each president, for most on their mind is protecting the american public from another attack. >> we have a number of questions that deal with mission areas you did not mention specifically, given the importance of cyber security and espionage and counterterrorism. i wonder if you could say a little bit about two things, one being your sense of where the country is in respect to drug policy. the fbi is involved with drug policy along with other law- enforcement agencies, but more generally, how you approach the challenge of managing this broad range of responsibilities that the fbi has to continue to attend to, while at the same time prioritizing the missions you mentioned. >> actually

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the investigation and audit of the nsa. and thomas, a former material witness and was then charged with violating the espionage act. i've got to say gentlemen i've been in law enforcement a fair number of years. the three of you look like the quintessential fbi-c.i.a. agents and here you are as whistle blowers. that's why i think it's so critical the public see you. bill tell me what motivated you to raise these issues and what they were about.

. >> well, to start with i developed the program in nsa to mine massivesive amounts of data to detect foreign threats. then after 9/11 they decided to turn that capability against every in the country everyone in the united states. and they started by taking commercial data in from at&t on everyone approximately 3 oh

. >> we began with reporting reporting corruption in acquisition of the nsa system. it's not so much a fourth amendment issue as it was fraud abuse, mismanagement. so four or five of us drafted a report for the d.o.d.i.g. in-- >> the department of defense inspector general. >> exactly. that was in 2002 that launched a sizable investigation involving as many as 12 investigators. and lasted until 2005 when the

that nsa was going crazy listening to our phone calls. >> fantastic.nt. thanks we'll see you later. >> talk to you later michael. >> thank you governor. coming up on our show. we have it, funny or die, we have vaginas oh for you. >> in my vagina. >> in my vagina. >> way, way deep, up, up there in my vagina. >>(narrator) three former nsa agents reveal their secrets. americans spying on americans. a special edition of viewpoint with elliot spitzer, live from washington next. >> back with the fay news u-block, and we'll talk a little bit of humor or sort of, i think, because we're going to see something from saturday night live.that i didn't think was so funny. let's take a look at something that "saturday night live" did mocking people. >> name one person who wouldn't have launched that. >> i can name one person who wouldn't have launched that raid. barack obama. >> no, no. >> not this thyme. time. he already did it. >> funnier still was a sketch that did not make it on "saturday night live" this was one that was mocking all of the attention of the anniv

this amendment was also to ensure that the administrator cannot limit the oversight fromd seeing nsa. in other words, i believe that with respect to safety we should have this type of oversight. and i'll yield back my time, mr. chairman, and ask everyone to, please, vote for my amendment. >> gentle lady yields back her time. mr. turner for five minutes. >> we oppose the amendment. miss sanchez talked about several that were valid. the others are issues of -- of concern that we would oppose. >> would the chairman yield on that point, please? yield some time? >> i had already yield back. it will be up to the chairman. >> the chair recognizes -- no, the chair asks if there's any other discussion on the amendment. the gentleman from california is recognized for a minute and a half. >> i yield my time to the ranking member. >> thank you. mr. turner, the amendment seeks to correct some of the deficiencies but it still leaves the authority for determining the type of oversight for high hazard operations to the nsa administrator. this would result in weaker standards and long-standing oversig

and also detecting the intentions and preventing the actions of those who would do us harm as the nsa director has stated, then what is needed is a citizenry and government workforce that includes substantial numbers of persons professionally fluent and culturally literate in the major languages and cultures of the world. research shows that professional level knowledge of language is highly sensitive to cultural signals and cues of understanding not only what people say but also how they use language to communicate, to modulate, meaning to conceal values or communicate intentions in their aspirations. to build rapport with one another, to persuade, to negotiate, to establish trust or fail to establish trust as the case may be. information transferred by the kwa, something machines are fairly good at is a minor part of communication as you look at the documents we have. the cultural component is what is essential. it's specific to each language, not something generically global. here i defer a bit from one of the comments made earlier today. it's specific to each language. it can be v

the president currently has with nsa's inability to complete the project an expected five year delay and this would allow us to expedite that insureing we have a strong nuclear deterrent. yield back. >> the chair recognizes the gentle lady from california. >> thank you. this would allow the military to carry out the construction of the nuclear facility in new mexico. it limits any funds from being spent on an alternative plan that does not include the cmrr. so first and foremost, this amendment disregards the budget control act restriction that led the administration to prioritize and accelerate the uranium production facility at oakridge, tennessee. delaying this project here for at least five years. the assist stand secretary of defense for global affairs testified to our house, strategic forces subcommittee on april 17th, that within the context of the nuclear weapons council, we looked at the program of modernization and the two construction projects and we made a very conscious decision within the context of the weapons council to prioritize the uranium facility at oakridge. wit

we need to realize the bill alone is not going to solve all the problems with the nsa and dod, but will take leadership in the administration on capitol hill. we believe this is a start. and again, i want to thank if gentle lady from california for her assistance. >> now recognize the ranking member of the subcommittee on strategic forces. gentle lady from california, ms. sanchez for any comments she would like to make. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to begin by thanking mr. turner and actually all of our subcommittee members for their leadership and the contribution to our subcommittee in this new session of the congress. it's a pleasure to work with all of you, especially in such a bipartisan manner. overall, i am pleased to support the strategic forces mark. i would like to comment briefly on the importance of protecting national security in a constrained budget environment. the bipartisan view on the national nuclear security administration programs, particularly in light of the ratification last year of the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty and missile defense. first i'd like to note

guest: cia, nsa, there are about 16 different agencies. we authorize the spending.ost: who gets the most money out of the pot? guest: i tell you we spend about roughly $72 billion overall. i cannot break it down for you beyond that. host: the cia gets more? the nsf gets more? guest: right. i cannot give you those details. host: how does that square with the white house request? guest: the deal we ava prices near $72 billion. is a little bit more than the president requested in his budget. it squares with the budget ax that we passed in march in the house. -- act that we passed in march in the house. host: where is the focus these days? is it still al qaeda? or other parts of the world? guest: it is a balanced focus. it ought to be a balanced focus. we have adversaries and threats around the world. obviously, the most high-profile is out data -- is al qaeda. we do not have troops in iraq. still, a big part of what we do is make sure the folks in afghanistan have the intelligence they need as well. there are threats from around the world that are not from afghanistan.

still leaves the authority for determining the type of oversight for high hazard operations to the nsa nnsa administrator. this would result in weaker standards and change long-standing oversight of these operations. again, i would urge my colleagues to vote for my amendment. if you care about health and safety of those workers in those facilities, you should be voting for my amendment. and i yield back to the gentleman from california. >> the gentleman yields back? >> no. no, i don't. not yet. this issue is not one that has become new to this committee or to the nuclear labs. the issue of safety has been around for a long time and, in fact, the current situation which is burdensome and should be modified, and the chairman is correct about modifications. i'm not sure about the details that have been proposed but this is also a community issue. the issue of safety in the surrounding communities is extremely important. livermore now surrounds or nearly surrounds the launch livermore national laboratory and the issue of nuclear safety on that -- in that laboratory and in the community is

the program funded by nsa is running high-quality state side programs for 159 different programs in ten languages and 48 state and the district of columbia. it's making a big difference. the state department is investing more than 30 million a year in the cls and related teacher programs supporting critical language study for more than 1,500 american university, college, and high school students a year. that program, for example, is open to any student in the country and has a remarkable level of language achievement even for the short period it worked. similarly the cls program has done the same thing for the undergraduate students. the final point i want to make is the national security education programs flagship program because while it has some very promising k-12 pilots in place, it has totally reinvented the way that foreign languages are taught today in our universities setting three as the logical outcome for programs and training models that don't even require the undergraduate learner to be a major in that field. together the nestle group and those entitled are low-cost high-

we have a cybercommand protecting.gov and nsa that is the overall agency.ople over there who know things they would be helpful for the private sector to know, but there's no way to share that with a private sector at this point in time. this is one of the threats we face. we're spending a lot of money and research we spent a lot of money in the tactical efforts every single day to protect.gov and .mil from these attacks. but the rest of the private sector's son is well protected. >> host: there's a front-page story in the "washington post" about cyberplan acts of the pentagon's turning to private sector. universities as part of an ambitious effort to develop technologies to prove cyberwarfare capabilities launch effective attacks and can likely retaliation. have you been briefed on this at all? >> guest: no, it's one of the programs that go on and where 50 years would've been some connecticut experiment going on to figure out the best way to do x, y and z and that's a natural evolution. we want to be on the leading edge of everything and the cyberworld is a

he's the head of cyber command and the head of nsa. and private sector observers like the latest mccaffee report have again used almost the same language. so here we are, assuming that to be true, on the losing end of the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of humankind. and i want to ask you with continued support of my office's efforts to try to get a understanding of what our fbi and doj resources are dedicated to this problem. you have to really drill below the numbers because i can ask doj and they can say, there's a cyber person dedicated in every u.s. attorney's office, and i know perfectly well from having been a u.s. attorney that that person may very well be doing no cyber cases at all. they may simply be the designee who puts the conference call on mute while they're doing other work. so just that number doesn't really help. so we're trying to work through who's really on to this cyber problem and how within the fbi. are there people who are designated in your local offices who are in the same mode when there's a confe

they launched this effort and surveyed last year it came right after a controversy will be whether the nsa and other roe organizations believe to that they were all the rest under the patriot act to use gps information to track americans. and i miss wondering what have you found as far as the national level the use of law enforcement or other government trucking? was denied the truth is we found very little concrete information about what is golan. it's difficult for what our national security establishment is doing in terms of who surveillance in general that extends to the location tracking. so to speculate based on what what we know about the currently available technology to get with the law enforcement agencies may be doing. so it is a little hard to say. one question people have raised flexible julian sanchez at the cato institute has raised repeatedly is to what degree the national establishment may be tracking cell phones and a large scale manner because for example if an individual dispose of their economy not be able to track that phone for a long period of time but if they move

the president currently has within nsas inability to complete the project, helping expedite this securing a strong return. yield back. >> the chair recognizes gentle lady from california for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. chairman, this amendment would require the secretary of defense to budget and carry out military construction of the cmrr nuclear facility in new mexico. and it limits funds spent on an alternative plan that does not include the cmrr. so first and foremost, this amendment disregards the budget control act funding restriction that led the administration to prioritize and accelerate their uranium development overseas delaying this project here for at least five years. the assistant secretary of defense for global strategic affairs, madeleine creedon, testified to our house strategic forces subcommittee on april 17th that within the context of the nuclear weapons council, we looked at the program of modernization and the two construction projects, and we made a very conscious decision to prioritize the urine rain yum decision at oak ridge and with that came t

capability to take that intelligence and work with not only our persons in the united states but within nsa, cia, and the others outside which will enable us to be successful in this particular arena. >> i really thank you for the excellent work that the bureau is doing on this and i look forward to working hard to make sure that you get the resources as well that you need. i'll close by observing that these cases are immensely complicated and difficult. if you look at the complicating factors that make a capes difficult, it has virtually all of them. it has probably the worst complicating factor of international domain, having to work through legats, having to work through treaties, having to work through foreign countries. the complicating factor of as you pointed out integration with our intelligence community and having to deal with the security and classified nature of some of that and protecting sources and methods. the cases themselves are challenging and difficult. as difficult as any rico case can be. the forensics are very important, trying to figure out how this stuff actually wo

and just weeks ago on this show we had three absolutely credible nsa veterans describing violations of comprehend. protecting ourselves from terrorism is, of course, a critical and primary obligation of our government. but it's equally important plot to run roughshod over our civil rights and the constitution. as we fight terrorismickings we can't lose sight of what makes our nation difference. due process of law and thehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe while you're out catching a movie. [ growls ] lucky for me your friends showed up with this awesome bone. hey! you guys are great. and if you got your home insurance where you got your cut rate car insurance, it might not replace all this. [ electricity crackling ] [ gasping ] so get allstate. you could save money and be better protected from mayhem like me. [ dennis ] dollar for dollar, nobody protects you from mayhem like allstate. break the ice with breath-freshening cooling crystals. ice breakers. >> eliot: the president completed his evolution on guy marriage two weeks ago. finally announcing his support fo

we've heard from republicans and some other national security stake hold early they would like to see nsa have a more active role. the white house has been very strong that it should be a semiyang enterprise. -- civilian enterprise, can you explain why this is? >> guest: i think there's two pieces. this is an all-government effort, and that's the viewpoint we've had. the intelligence community, the department of defense has tremendous capabilities they've built up over the years. they were one of the early adopters when it came to moving networks into an ip-based environment. so the the expertise exists. we fully recognize that the fbi, secret service, department of justice has an investive role and, in some cases, a counterintelligence role. but department of homeland security by congressional law as well as presidential directives have said that you are the body that works with private sector to help protect critical infrastructure. as well as there is the belief on the fisma implementation for the dot .gov environment as well. we think that gives us the best ability to leverage the com

monday on this program three former scene officials from the national security agency said that nsa hadonducted surveillance on billions of domestic phone calls in violation of federal law and the constitution. these whistle blowers were not radical or hotheaded. they had over half a century of combined government service among them and possessed the bearing of 19 50's fbi agents. when they spoke i believed them. also on that program congressman congressman ed markie talked about phone companies giving private customer information to law enforcement without any warrant, subpoena, or evident evidentiary hearing. now twitter is being ordered to produce all its mentions from an occupy wall street protester the activist him himselfic was told he could not object to his own tweets being turned over. privacy can disappear. every key stroke, phone call and movement leaves electronic fingerprints that can be traced. every cell phone is gps device, and every google can be stored for posterity. should government track our movements? should private parties be able to sell our data searches? are fe

nsa argued that disclosing information about a possible with google could make u.s.overnment systems vulnerable to attack. >> adam mayes who made the f.b.i.'s most wanted list for killing a mom and older sister and kidnapping two girls, he is dead. the girls are set to be questioned by the police. they were released from the hospital. police arrested theresan the deaths of those girls mother and. the suspect killed himself as police surrounded him. >> new search for a missing california teen. she was last seen leaving the school on march 16th. a car connected to the disappearance was found on tuesday. the car was seen in the area where she went missing. the police received more than 2000 tips since her disappearance. >> president obama, backing same-sex marriage and allegations of mitt romney bullying someone in high school dominated election headlines this week. are those stories distracting voters from the real issue in we'll sit down with the vice chairman of the dnc, next. stay with us. ok! who gets occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? get ahead of

this sometimes leads to natural tensions between the departments of energy and nsa. the sections in the mark as layers of bureaucracy the relationship and when they get more adversarial. it requires to do cost analysis to inform its recommendation. this takes away the d.o.e. and nsa authority to choose how to respond, how to consider how to implement a board recommendation to be the ones to decide cost as little silly to increase tensions that there's disagreement on cost analysis. basically this section micromanages the brewers recommendation process. weakening its authority to send letters and creating conditions in which the d.o.e. may respond to the draft letter and thus be boxed into position rather than giving the department of energy the option to consider and respond to recommendations as they are received. in combination with section 3113 unless it is altered a fact to oversight by the board would be precluded in performance-based oversight with the new standard. 3202 also requires the board members have access to information at the same time as the chairman

southbound looks great from nsa past nasa, and to the beltway. 270 at democracy boulevard, get lightheadedthbound toward the american legion bridge in this picture. now to adam caskey in the weather center. stress of the beach, a great picture over the bay. i love our 80 cameras along the water. the beautiful chesapeake bay. if orange on the horizon about to rise in 29 minutes at 5:59 a.m. --the sunris74 degrees this afternoon for the high temperature, a westerly wind at 10-15, breezy at times. it's 43 degrees in leesburg right now,. near 80 on the weekend and looking good. >> i will take it from here. a developing story we are following. two girls kidnapped from their home in tennessee are safe in mississippi. their alleged kidnappers debt. 35-year-old adam mayes shot himself in the head last night after a swat team moved in. police acting on tips found him and the two girls in mississippi. the fbi says that his motives were not clear, but he may have thought that the girls were his children. collect they were two little girls that he was absolutely obsessive with. he was claiming that th

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degrees and san francisco 83 degrees the peace in the east bay and concord in livermore and how '70s as nsad these temperatures are average anywhere between three and eight degrees above average for this time of the year rise in china sure enough we do have a great slayed the coast of basketball lead to the bay area but otherwise clear skies this afternoon we will have skies clearing all across the bay area '60s and '70s bayside to the '80s and ontario valley is it is deemed to of the bay bridge series with the giants played host to the oakland a's have shares in the mid-60s with the abundance of sunshine make sure you have a sunblocks and i will have numbers overnights tumbling into the '40's and into the fifties with the redevelopment of the low clouds and fog at the coast to we do have the departure of low pressure to east meanwhile have a high pressure that continues to build and and as it does so today we warm up in comparison to yesterday but then a local play a couple degrees for your sunday if you are travelling around for more than half of the state nearly 93 the central valley tod

>>(narrator) three former nsa agents reveal their secrets. americans spying on americans. edition of viewpoint with elliot spitzer, live from washington tonight at 8/7 central. ♪ taking your e-mails on any topic at any time, this is the bill press show, live on your radio and current tv. >> how about it? on our big topic of this hour kirk bowman says being a member of the lgbt community, i am comfortable with president obama's waiting until his second term to support marriage for all. i believe in his heart of hearts that president obama is a supporter of marriage for all. and bill i am surprised at your advice considering how closely divided this country is reported to be. on teachers dave wants us to say, just a reminder, bill and crew while we appreciate everything the great teachers of this country do, it is also national nurses' week. let's remember the hard working nurses as well. i love nurses of this country. i can't believe the nurses and the teachers are shayring the same week. well, kudos to you both. >> this is the bill press show. and who ordered the yummy cer

approach that was focused mostly on services, the cia, the range of other intelligence services, nsa, geospatial, and then in special operational forces targeting in afghanistan and then in pakistan and other locations. >> host: you're talking about in 2001, how the u.s. fought back by sending in cia and special forces, green berets working on the ground in afghanistan, the tribal leaders, and with everyone out? >> guest: in addition to other locations, the capture of muhammid, and not quite an al-qaeda person himself, but definitely involved in operations, libi, so these operations, even in countries like pakistan were done with clanupons. in addition, al-qaeda had been killing a large number of civilians in new york city. it did lead to a backlash in some areas of the world, especially among some conservative sunnies that this was probably going too far. >> host: i was going to ask you about that. you go into great detail in the book about the intellectual debate back and forth between the current leader of al-qaeda replacing bin laden with his mentor turned enemy in egypt. there's

the national academy of strategic efforts have done that the nsa is broken and we cannot afford to leave it on fixed. the agency responsible for ensuring that liability and credibility of the deterrence and they are not able to tell us what will cost to that. something has gone horribly awry. last time congress looked at this subject, it was fully bipartisan. ms. sanchez and i have worked very hard on this issue. we all need to recognize that this bill is not going to solve the problems within nsa, doe and will take leadership in capitol hill. very important. i want to feel that my time. >> the gentle lady from california, ms. sanchez, for any comments you would like to make. >> they do. i would like to thank mr. turner. and all of our subcommittee members for their leadership and contribution in this new session of congress. it is a pleasure to work with all of you. especially in such a bipartisan manner. overall, i am pleased to support this strategic forces mark. i would like to comment on the importance of protecting national security in a constrained budget environment. the bipartis

>> nsa drones, maybe some human intel, maybe some help from the saudis. >> it's all of the above.very difficult to come by when people feel like they're put at risk. >> one good thing about this leak is it puts pressure on the organization. now if you're inside al qaeda, you can't be sure, is this person who came to us two years ago a saudi mole. is this person working for the jordanians who we thought we could trust and that is good for us. so i'm not sure this leak was all bad. i'm not sure this leak was unintentional either. >> thanks very much to both of you. a lot of you are probably wondering how does a spy operate? how do you infiltrate al qaeda and actually have them believe that you believe everything that they believe and get them to have you be the guy to blow up a plane? well, we wanted to know so we found a former double agent for the cia. he's next. you'll see him blacked out with his voice distorted, but he's going to tell you how he got recruited to work for this country, betray his own and what he did. >>> plus the man who changed an industry. we honor the passing

that was focused mostly on clandestine services, the cia, the range of other intelligence services, nsa, geospatial and then special operations forces targeting in afghanistan and pakistan and other locations. >> host: you are talking about in 2001 how the u.s. sat back i sending in cia and special forces green berets working together on the ground in afghanistan with the tribal leaders and driving the taliban out of? >> guest: in addition to what was going on in other locations, the capture of individuals like khalid sheikh mohammad in pakistan, rumsey À la sheet, ali sue bob who was definitely involved in operations, so these operations in countries like pakistan were done with clandestine units working during that period close it with the pakistanis, and then in addition al qaeda had been killing is a large number of civilians in new york city. it did lead to a backlash in some areas of the world especially among some can sunnis that this was probably going too far. >> host: i was going to ask you about that. you go into great detail in the book about the intellectual debate back and

and nsa just the beginning. there will be a little pavilion and restaurant and. >> i don't know how i feel about restaurants. >> outside the walkway will be a tidal. >> that portion of the mall has always felt separate. >> reporter: by the lincoln memorial, other architects will trabs form constitution gardens by adding a water basin for model boats and ice skating. >> i would like an ice rink. >> reporter: and they'll have a new restaurant pavilion overlooking the park. >> actually, i like it. i like -- i do. i like the idea of a way to hang by the lincoln memorial. you know, as long as it doesn't get too commercial. that would be my concern. >> reporter: now construction is expected to begin in the next two years. and they're hoping to have it all wrapped up by 20016. in southwest, i'm tracee wilkins, news4. >>> and the third area designated for redesign will be union square. and the capital reflecting pool. that winning team's design has been sent to the capital's architect for approval. >>> well heartbroken

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. >> to the nsa. >> son what are they going to do with?tten with this technology in mind. >> that's just not going to be reassuring to people to say, what we have is going to work. here is fred from is it wakegan illinois. >> wakegan. >> thanks for joining us. >> hello. it's my first time calling in. let herephrase that. my first time getting through. long time listening. >> welcome welcome. >> a short-time viewer. been on the air six, seven weeks. a short time. to get to the point here, the only time we hear about drones for the most part, we heard about their success when they said we are hit by a drone yeah, we were hit by a drone. now, let's go to washington new york. we were chasing this criminal by the name of bill press the we found him in new york city. how accurate are we going to be in those sky scrapers? >> uh-huh. >> that's my question. >> got it, fred. >> well, you know, the surveillance came capabilities on cameras that are on these are pretty amazing. s sneeze dloenz are not big enough to stay in the air for a lo angel timer

with our partners at dhs, cia, nsa, and the secret service, we are together targeting cyberthreats facing our nation. next, let me address our efforts to combat financial crimes. the fbi and its partners continue to focus on the most egregious offenders of mortgage fraud. at the end of last year, the fbi had nearly 2600 mortgage fraud investigations nationwide and a majority of these cases included losses greater than $1 million. over the past four years, we have nearly tripled the number of special agents investigating mortgage fraud, and working with our federal and state law enforcement partners, our agents and analysts are using intelligence, surveillance, computer analysis and undercover operations to find the key players behind large-scale mortgage fraud. turning to health care fraud, health care spending currently makes up about 18% of our nation's total economy. which presents an attractive target for criminals, so much so, that we lose tens of billions of dollars each year to health care fraud. as announced last week, the fbi, the justice department continue to bring record numbe