people have known for sometime that the nsa is this massive out of control agency. since 2010, they have collected 1.7 billion telephone calls between americans every day, and yet it made no impact because without the deposits, you don't understand what they're doing and what the severity of it is. and i think that the ability to show people, not in our words, but to show them the nsa documents, has made people very upset and very engaged and has countried a real political candle and it has fundamentally changed the way that the functions of this area, and president obama pretending to do reforms. and i think that it underscores the need for trance pearce is, and the need to come forward and not let the government officials conduct these port programs in the dark. >> it's unrealistic to think that the government is ever going to be completely transparent. but what would it take to restore confidence in these agencies if the nsa were to release a lot more information on these business before you do? >> i don't think that it would restore confidence. today destroy con

the nsa does what it wants. this is the first time since the wiretapping scandal of the bush administration and before that, the scandals that involved the church committee -- led to the beenh committee, there has almost no pushback on nsa spying. with regards to the comments of -- of spying as much as possible in the u.s., that is the attitude used in the stasi. -- in the stasi period. protect the country because everybody may be a danger. so they eavesdropped on everybody's communications. and you can see where east germany went. you cannot have that in a country like this. there are certain dangers. safer way would be to have unannounced visits by the week, searching for prohibited items or whatever. but who wants that? if you want safety on the highway we can reduce the speed .imit to 30 miles per hour but we don't do that because you have to accept some risk in a democracy the north have freedom -- in a democracy in order to have freedom. from twitter -- it was a secret until snowden came along. the taxpaye

nsa program. and recently it was exposed as a government online agent with world war games, and their mission to try to community with the guys. and it's unclear if any useable information came from this. so glen, what was the information from the surveillance that you were parley disturbed by that came out in the nsa documents that got lost in the snowden story? >> i think that the underlying point is the most important win, which is the the goal of the nsa is to eliminate privacy globally by trying to collect all forms of communications. so the story that you just referenced, when someone said, why would they want to try to infiltrate video games in and the reason is simple. they want to infiltrate everywhere. and the scope and the limitness of what they want to achieve and are close to achieving is far and away most disturbing. but their methods of being able tto insert malware on computers x. being able to see every keystroke. >> laptops ordered online, is that right? >> and they did that by i

it is more about the power than anything else. >> glenn, do we need the nsa? >> you know, i think we need a degree of targeted spying, whether is done by the nsa or another agency, we don't need what they have become, an agency creating a system of suspiciously spying. >> what does the future for glenn? we'll be right back. consider this: the news of the >>> hi, i'm henry, i'm in the stream. >> welcome back, we have been talking about the nsa and glenn, you have an impressive resume, it is a new year and what is next? >> well, i mean, there's definitely a lot of documents that have been given to us and we are working with and not yet reported on and working on the stories and being accurate and there is definitely a very good number of stories that are very significant that will continue to be reported and shaping on how we think about the programs in profound ways. >> so two things, a lot of documents, quantify that is and what is trigger and when are you going to release the next round of information? >> i never counted the documents, you know, i have said b

i mean nsa's ability to query the database which would have allowed nsa to find one of the 9/11 hijackers in california and the part of the program where nsa shares such information with the fbi. if both of those pieces had been in place 9/11 would have been prevented by this program. >> schieffer: how badly do you think our national security has been harmed by the disclosures by edward snowden? >> i believe this is the worst disclosures in the history of the u.s. intelligence community, i agree with chairman rogers that it will cost billions and billions of dollars to repair the damage. >> schieffer: and are they repairing the damage? are there steps going on now? are they doing things in different ways and i guess the other part of that question is, are the other guys doing things in different way because of these disclosures? >> even before i left government in august, we were watching the adversaries change their approach as a result of the disclosures. so they moved very quickly to adjust to the collection that we were doing against them. and i don't know it, but i would imagine my f

now the nsa is reportedly developing what's called a quantum computer. when it's complete, it will be able to break just about any encryption in the world. >> when nsa gets that quantum computer, what will it then do? >> the quantum computer will be a game-changer. it will allow the nsa to break the codes that foreign governments use. >> reporter: they'll also be able to break into the encryption codes we all use to break into our bank accounts, medical records. a privacy advocate says that would leads into a world with no secrets. >> we don't know, in fact, what capabilities there are, what steps are zbik taken to undermine the types of encryption we might use when we purchase a book or download a user. >> reporter: it's revealed in documents provided by nsa leaker edward snowden and reported by the "washington post." how would the super computer work? when the regular computer tries to solve a problem it has to go through at least one solution one by one by one. it simultaneously tries every possibility. according to documents the quantum computer is b

nsa had secretly helped fund the british surveillance reports. this august the "washington post" reported that an internal audit showed the agency has broken its own privacy regulations more than 2700 times. president obama announced a new review of the nsa but insisted that edward snowden was no patriot. >> mr. snowden had been charged with three felonies. if in fact he believes that what he did was right, then like every american citizen, we can come here, appear before the court with a lawyer, and make his case. >> reporter: the embare are asments for the obama administration continued. in october a german newspaper reported that snowden documents appeared to kate that u.s. intelligence agencies had been listening to cell phone calls of the german channel lor. and then the "washington post" reported that the nsa tapped into the main communication centers for yahoo and google. the story underscored the ability to spy on tech powerhouses without their knowledge. snowden told the "washington post" he had already won at the end of the year. >>> on

backdoor by the nsa. formedel the president made 46 recommendations and he only touched upon a couple. anythingt mention about the zero day exploits, that is when the government actually develops systems to break into computers. these are ways to get into programs like windows, google, it.hatever, and exploit in other words put malware in there. there is an industry develops in the united states to create these zero day exploits. he said nothing about that, even though the panel recommended restricting the practice. panel's a lot in the report that he did not touch upon. you wrote several books on the nsa. as you look at those 46 recommendations that the panel , was veryresident surprising issue the presidents took from the panel and included in his speech yesterday? the most controversy always the metadata program -- controversy over was the metadata program. al was theersy major data program. program.tadata a grandma calls from topeka, kansas, there is a record for that. nobody asked me if they could co

it is not a question of trusting nsa. since the 1970s the united states uniquely among nations has built an entire structure of law to govern the way it gathers intelligence. and put lega legal limits on whe intelligence community can do. and then put in place judicial oversight, congressional oversight. so the real question is, are you going to trust anyone in government to make decisions of this kind? in the long run i think the american people are pretty practical and they'll see that they can't have the new york times report on every intelligence operation in advance so we can decide we're comfortable with it because then of course they'll never succeed. >> something is killing america's bee population. >> what happened to this bee? >> scientists aren't sure what but beekeepers are reporting dramatic declines of 65% this year. >> the losses are astronomical >> that could have a devistating impact on agriculture. but a collection of resarchers are working hard to build a better bee. >> i'm just gonna roll my fingers fo

on this addition of our program, we are talking about nsa reform. the president gave a major speech on intelligence gathering and the balance between security and privacy, and ben chan's it was a ringing endorsement of the idea of privates because during these months of debate and revelation, transparency became a commonly used word. the president, himself, said intelligence agencies cannot function without sec res which makes their work less subject to public debate. did he close the sale? >> it's interesting t i listened to the speech with a census of a cuplet the president had throughout and what he was talking about, our privacy, your privacy and mine, alan's, raney's and the privacy or sec reece that apt sees like nsa. it's this tension, this inevitable tension that is at play. what i think is important were his different audiences. he clearly understood that he had to address the concerns of many different stake holders here in this country and overseas, not just leaders but citizens living overseas as well. so that was an interesting discussi

the nsa does both. the nsa collect meta-data and content of both foreign nationals and american citizens. they read millions of e-mails and text messages and listen in on telephone calls every single day continuously all the time. but the thing about meta-data, it can be more invasive than living to calls. if you call a suicide hotline, drug clinic or abortion doctor, or if you are contacted by an informant, collecting meta-data allows the government to know all of that, and it's extremely invasive of how you live your life, information that the government has no business knowing about. >> greenwald went on to say that the obama speech was not enough and it was meant just to stifle the debate. >>> another school shooting happened today. it is the second one this week. this time it was at the delaware valley charter school in north philadelphia. they're listed in stable condition. the shooter is described by a boy by the associated press was caught at hi home. the gun has not been recovered. >>> pope ben

it is not a question of trusting nsa. since the 1970s the united states uniquely among nations has built an entire structure of law to govern the way it gathers intelligence. and put lega legal limits on whe intelligence community can do. and then put in place judicial oversight, congressional oversight. so the real question is, are you going to trust anyone in government to make decisions of this kind? in the long run i think the american people are pretty practical and they'll see that they can't have the new york times report on every intelligence operation in advance so we can decide we're comfortable with it because then of course they'll never succeed. >> and now a techknow minute... >> u.s. government departments regularly leak for reasons that are strategic and political, you know this, you live in washington, d.c. that city leaks like a sieve. >> yes. >> so here's the thing. oftentimes what is leaked by the administration is often classified at a much higher level of secrecy, at a much higher level than bradley m

democratic congressman rush holt propose his own bill for reading and the nsa. we don't want those who are doing a surveillance to be the very same ones who decide who the bad guys are decide what to do with the nsa has diluted the usual partisan rivalry between democrats and republicans with bills the sanding this is the aunts and calls to restrain coming from both sides. just a mac who campaigns for government accountability doesn't believe that any of the proposed changes will make a genuine difference. so far what has been telecast through government leaks look alot like a lot of cosmetic changes in other words it does not a theory that had the president will be bringing in the largest controversy which is probably the full collection of american data on nor will he be adopting any recommendation to house and story that data in for example a telephone company rather than on by the national security agency again i think a lot of these changes are or are you really just cosmetic in their contrary to what his own internal review panel recommended. the global sp

director keith alexander key this quote how the nsa spying or is the nsa currently spying on members of congress or other american elected officials seem to expect. alexander to answer that question honestly given its track record and it's on the disclosures that we've seen so far from the nsa will this has a pretty tricky with top members of congress will say something in and letters in the end. mayor ron wyden announced it would take like the cell site location data and the nsa writes back and we're not currently doing a give way when it should be classified a tandem for another answer to that question. this is a pretty simple question yes they are spine because of sen sanders whose own letter to say by spying on me. are you collecting headed out on a personal phone calls. yes their spy on everybody there collecting on everyone's mad about it in the united states pretty much soaked. that's a pretty easy way that the opportunity to respond to that held the same york times and guardian published calling for clemency fredericks noted yesterday elected officials in the u s policy in th

nsa's intercepted information. the phone calls, the e-mail, the metadata, everything it collects it needs a place to store it and that's what bluffdale is for. you could sort of think of it as nsa's external hard drive. >> reporter: the nsa declined a request for an interview but in bluffdale, population about 8,000, most people don't have any qualms about their neighbor, the spy agency. >> it's an important mission. they get information from around the world. and my understanding, that they study it here. >> if you can't trust your government to do the proper thing, what can you trust? >> reporter: but in the wake of former nsa contractor edward snowden's revelations, a nationwide movement is building to rein in the nsa, using constitutional powers vested in the states. connor boyak is president of the laveris institute, a think tank. >> states and communities are not at all required to help the federal government in its mandates. if we want to we could oppose what they're doing. >> reporter: the nsa foes think th

jon: last june, former nsa contractor edward snowden began leaking details about the nsa secret spy programs including one that scoops up and stores phone records an internet data virtually every american. days after the first leak the obama administration opened a criminal investigation. on june 21st the justice department filed espionage charges against snowden. in august the fugitive-leaker received asylum in russia for one year. in october we learned the fed spied on dozens of world leaders including some of our closest allies. last month a presidential review panel offered 46 recommendations how to reform the way the agency operates. today the president will change which changes he wants to make. jenna: remarkable to think a few months ago none of this would have happened except for the man on the screen there edward snowden. no matter how we got there, here we are. let's bring in white house correspondent ed henry live at the white house with a preview for us. ed, how big are the changes we expected president to propose today? >> reporter: jenna, i suspect the white house will play thi

it's following months of reports that the nsa spies on its allies and collects data worldwide including on americans. national security protecting this country from another terrorist attack. mike is at the white house, and have you been given any insight as to what the president will say? >> there have been rules on the briefing, and we can't talk about the details, it's embargoed in the parl wants of washington, but the thing that you need to look at, the metadata collection, the most controversial one from edward snowden, that came through the course of last year. what will he do about it? we know that his own administration came back with they hold the data itself. but not going forward. we know it's not enough for many advocates, many civil libertarians in this country, and where will the president go on that? where will he go with the so-called national security letters issued by the fbi to the communications companies requesting information without any sort of judicial review? will there be constraints on that as well? and back to the metadata collection, will there be review for

the nsa declined a request for an interview.ut may bluffdale, most people don't have any qualms about their neighbor, the spy agency. >> it's an important mission. they get information from around the world, and my understanding is that they study it here. >> if you can't trust your government to do the proper thing, what can you trust? >> in the wake of former nsa contractor edward snowden's revelation, a nationwood movement is building to rain in the nsa using constitutional powers vested in the states. conner boyack is president of the utah legal thing tank. >> states and cities are not at all required to help the federal government fulfill various programs and mandates so if we wa wanted to, we could office what the nsa is doing. >> here in utah, the nsa's foes think they found its ultimate weakness. >> opponents of the nsa's mass surveillance have come up with an audacious yet perfectly legal plan to criminal the data center. they want the state of utah to turn off the tap on the nsa's water supply. >> to keep equipment fro

i mean i'm sure the nsa will say look we don't. we we don't. older the better you know we are no protection of civil liberties to other people around the world. although i would hope that the united states sets a good example everywhere around the world and that day a week in the united states. all actions of all government agencies are bound by our constitution. i spoke to you a few months ago about the nsa and more specifically about the bill that you had introduced any updates on that hill. well a few more co sponsors. i wouldn't say it's close to becoming law. i wish it would be. it does several things. it grants whistleblower protection to members the intelligence community as things currently stand of most federal employees have protection against retribution if they expose waste fraud abuse of power of the not so with members of the intelligence community. my legislation would fix that. it would prevent the nsa or any similar agency from installing back doors and hardware or software in other words to um to prevent them from undermining

i actually had concluded the opp a city founded the ball the collection by the nsa. no discernible impact on preventing acts of terror attempt to right now obama can make whatever means he wants but this study and the research is not supporting his words. a coastal new york city that will present a balanced diet is reforms is concrete and substantial. and therefore will bring a transition the wall and the section to fifteen ball meditative program as it currently exists. presidents much anticipated speech to the mcp pushing for that crucial intelligence reforms that some of this mission to find out what activist blogger david swanson still think that obama spoke of both the joys that life. other things to do something with this would you agree that ofcom has an essay or a full busy day to enter the date substantial as people they own all. i would not i wouldn't call it a reform i would call it the ongoing normalization of the outrageous policy of violating the fourth amendment on an enormous scale. it is sucking up data on the people who for whom there is no probable

asking if the nsa had spied or if the nsa is currently spying on members of congress or other american elected officials. the nsa's response to that was that members of congress have the same privacy protections as all u.s. persons which suggests the answer to that question is affirmative. as i understand it, each of you were granted security clearances, the ability to see classified information. i will ask the pet -- asked the panel -- are you aware has the nsa ever done surveillance on members of congress or other elected american officials? >> we are not aware of any such. one of the things we learned in our review is that there are no targeting by the nsa of people because of their political views, religious convictions, or their political party. in terms of concretely, some details -- we may not have precise questions that every one of which answer to. politics, religion, political views -- that is not what they are interested in. >> we are talking about in recent years. we are not talking about the 1960's and 1970's when there was a different history of surveillance agencies. >>

the whistle on the nsa. into the data banks of silicon valley giants, and the private communication he of millions of citizens around the world. by getting the story that glen green wald got, snowden through carefully selected media outlets in germany france and brazil among many others. snowden has yet to come in from the cold. he's lying low in wintery moscow but according to the journalists involved, this story is far from resolved. there are more coming. our starting point, the adopted home of american journalist glen greenwald, rio de janeiro, brazil. >> i had been contacted in december 2012, by someone who didn't identify himself but had interested material he thought h iwould want to look at. so i said send me something. he sent me encrypted documents. i immediately knew this was one of the most important security leaks in history. i had been working on surveillance issues and suddenly in my lap had dropped some of the most potent instruments for shining a light on what they were doing, beyond your wi

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>> rose: welcome to the program, tonight, david sand of "the new york times" on new nsa technologies and capabilities. >> well, the fact that the nsa targets computers around the world is not a surprise to anybody, and they target all digital communications, but we learned and you and i have discussed it at some length during the attacks on iran's nuclear program that they also have the capability to get into a computer system that is completely walled off from the internet, because any intelligence agency, any company, any criminal group that really wanted to try to have 100 percent assurance they are not being watched or they are not going to get hit by some kind of cyber weapon would first disconnect their computers from the outside world. so the big challenge to the nsa, charlie, always has been what do you do about these computers that are separated from the internet which probably have the data the nsa is most interested in. >> rose: we continue this evening with sir james dyson, the inventor and engineer, you may know him because of the dyson vacuum cleaner. >> i can guarantee

really are hurting as a result of the nsa oh -- what has happened in the nsa. as far as the outside world is concerned, the united states has become an arc pell go of conversion. facebook, yahoo! telecommunications country might have been a secret of the national security agency, because they're ordered to do so by the fisa court and they're forced to keep that secret. all through the mechanism of national security. >> let me talk -- >> at the moment, europe has much more competitive protections than the united states. for cloud data, ibm exports. >> right. >> the industry is hemorrhaging. there is no protection, no meaningful protection. >> i understand your point there, because there are at least a group of people from the telecommunications business who did visit with the president who complained that there were problems in terms of competition, saying their own software was being tainted. that was a problem, to get public trust, if you will, for those particular companies. so that is a valid point. but the president did acknowledge that the u.s. has gone to

. >>> the new nsa. get ready for president obama's new and improved surveillance strategy. >>> duck down. the audience, please, from the duck dynasty mere. >>> google's invention of a smart coop tact lens. >>> we may have the perfect sniper rifle. thanks for joining us >>> the next chapter in the new jersey bridge gate saga is here. nearly 20 subpoenas going out this morning. among those targeted is his former campaign manager and current spokesman and chief of staff, and deputy chief of staff, brid yesterday an kelly. >> i was born here. i was raised here. i'm raising my family here. this is where i intend to spend the rest of my life. whatever test they put in front of me, i will meet those tests because i'm doing it on your behalf. >>> later today, president obama will unveil plans to overhaul the nsa and roll back soom controversial practices revealed by edward snowden, it is expected to be a delicate balance to protect the nation and your privacy at the same time. tracie potts is live. what can we

but they go to the heart of what the nsa does these days. it will be interesting to see if they mention them in the speech. >> this came out in the 60 minutes piece. some conditional amnesty that david snowden has led? >> everyone i've spoken to in the white house and the administration has rejected that thought out of hand. they did not say they would not talk to them about some kind of deal but they believe that the precedent of giving him full amnesty and letting him walk in returns for getting their data back would set a bad precedent. and we don't know how much would be in the hands of others right now. >> finally, this. is the president talking about some kind of public advocate who will represent the cause of the libertarians and transparency and privacy? >> it looks very much like he will embrace that recommendation, the recommendation to allow someone to argue the other side of the cases in front of the fisa court, the surveillance court. it is interesting because we saw some pushback from the judiciary branch yesterday, they want t

it's the nsa itself.ments, there is the recognition that collecting metadata is the supreme priority of the agency, not because it protects people's privacy but precisely because it enables the nsa to invade people's privacy more effectively than the interception of content. and i think sometimes it's difficult to understand that in the abstract, but it's easy to understand when concrete examples are used. and so if you can imagine, for example, a woman who decides that she wants to get an abortion, if you're listening in on her phone call, what you will hear is her calling the clinic on the clinical and with a generic sounding name, like the site clinic or something like that, you will hear the woman who you decided to target for surveillance ask for an appointment tuesday at 2:00, get the appointment and think of the phone and you have no idea why she called or even what kind of clinic she called or what the purpose was. but if you're collecting her metadata you will see the phone number that she called

and the nsa was secretly helping to pay for it. the washington post reported the agency had broken its own privacy obligations more than 2700 times. president obama insisted edward snowden was no patriot. >> mr. snowden is accused of 27 felonies. he can appear here and make his case. >> in october a german newspaper reported that snowden documents appeared to indicate that u.s. intelligence agencies had been listening to cell phone calls of german chancellor angela merkel. then main communication links for yahoo and google. the story underscored the nsa's ability to spy on packed powerhouses without their knowledge. at the end of the year snowden told the washington post he had already won because as many leaks had fueled a vigorous and high profile public debate. david shuster, al jazeera. >> later on jake ward will show us how tech companies make money with your data online. >>> now to cyber-attacks. stores and commerce at risk as hackers continue to strike. mark schneider reports. >> it's looking more like target and neiman's ar

we'll continue why critics of the nsa are skeptical of the presidents announced reforms to former nsa whistleblower bill bennett. he still is not being given the right perspective on technology and was capable of technology instead of taking the fall collection approach in trying to modify those of legislation in that area to try to correct it but still maintain that fall collection is the wrong way to do it. a former nsa whistleblower kirk we did. it's sort of a false rubric to say or roof if you will a red herring to say of wealth and the state doesn't have a say not true it's connected to a wider network and as saying now aside from section to fifteen ball collection the president announced a number of reforms in other areas. others more d classification of pfizer court opinions coming. a change to be a definite secrecy that comes with national security letters are also allowing providers to share more information about the national security letters that they receive from the government. also the president called on congress to create a special panel to advocate before the fight to

you have talked a lot about the nsa. getting to your point about the difference between intelligence and whatnot. this morning, i heard only about 10 minutes. i was driving. but richard clarke described the fact that what they are doing with the nsa review panel was, number one, we had been asked to take a look at what intelligence we actually need. do second, we had been asked to look at how transparent we can be in getting the intelligence in a way that matches our democratic values in a democratic society. i did not hear much more. i really wonder given all we have talked about here, with the nsa review panel, are we on the right track? or is this going to deviate? maybe i would have found out if i heard the rest of the show. i look forward to hearing your views. >> i actually think that that review panel -- it is a fascinating report. one of the things we talk about. it is somebody called in and said the report was very glib. i responded, you appreciate one written in clear language. and easy to understand. that was

senator sanders wrote a letter to the nsa, asking if the nsa "spied, or is currently spying on members of congress or elected officials?" the answer to-- that was that they have the same protections as other citizens, which is appearing to be the affirmative. the question i would ask this , has theare you aware nsa ever done surveillance on members of congress, or other elected american officials? >> we're not aware of any of that. one of the things we learned in our review is that there's no targeting by the nsa because of their religious views or convictions. in terms of could greatly -- of , we may notails politics, legend, political views, that is not with their interest to get -- interested in. talking in the past. one thingto clarify, you said about religious views. agree that awould would not to jihad qualify as a religious view, and would indeed be a political position and an embrace of violence that merits very close scrutiny to prevent that violence from -- >> exactly. that would not fall within protect did religious belief. a follow-up question related to the question about

so you can secure that data, and the nsa official has said that.s not -- i didn't invent that. >> yes, i know. the nsa person said this on television this week. he would consider pardon. >> not pardon. everybody keeps using pardon. nobody's going to pardon him. he's going to serve time. he's going to serve time. if he comes back he's going to serve time. the question is is somebody 30 years old going to serve 10 years, 20 years, 50 years. there's a lot of leeway. >> final question. will obama cut any slack for snowden, as you see this developing, yes or no? >> no. >> no. >> possibly. >> maybe. >> maybe. >> what is this. evasion central? >> i think we n'dot know. i don't see it. >> i don't see it either. we'll be right back with predictions. >>> out of time, bye bye. there was no way to know for sure. hey guys... daddy, it's pink! but hey. a new house it's a blank canvas. and we got a great one thanks to a really low mortgage rate from navy federal credit union. pink so she's a princess. you got a problem with that? oorah oorah 4 million members. 4

the nsa surveillance and you that's the "inside story." ♪ ♪ >>> hello i am ray suarez. feel about edward snowden and what he did, there is one thing that can't be denied. he opened up the world of national security agency surveillance to public scrutiny. in the years after the september 11th terrorist attacks. government officials and elected officials have asked themselves and each other, sometimes even the rest of us, what does the united states have do to protect itself from conspiracy and attack? what works to thwart terrorist plan something what fits with our legal system, traditions, our liberties and expectations of privacy? and can you steer a path that passes all of those tests? edward snowden's theft and release of classified information has led to a national did h debate, a commisn report and soon to come a presidential response. after months of straddling the lines between privacy advocates, big internet firms and his own intelligent services, president obama will share his plans for the national security agency friday. according to a recent report from the

anyway, the four nsa officials who have been saying for years that the nsa was acting unconstitutionally, in this dragnet surveillance that they were carrying on were defying the fourth amendment had said openly that they thought snowden did the right thing and they did the wrong thing by acting through the channels that the president had spoken of. they were simply persecuted in a variety of ways, one of them prosecuted, others held at gunpoint on suspicion. and a sorry sight. they said the only way this could have come to our attention is for a courageous person like mr. snowden who had access to this information to tell it without authorization because no head of nsa was ever going to authorize the information as to how long and how greatly this institution has been violating our constitution and the rights of all our citizens. >> i want to get to edward snowden in a moment. but first there has been argument about whether it's constitutional or not, different judges have decided in different ways and the nsa panel named by the president said that they hadn't found any illegality or ab

this is from a program, an nsa program called dishfire. more than 5 million missed call alerts, which are used to analyze a person's social network, that is some of the data the nsa is collecting. details of 1.6 million border crossings a day is pulled from the network roaming alerts and more than 800,000 financial transactions through text to text payments are linking credit cards to phone users. that's the type of data that the nsa has been collecting. that what does that tell you? >> the nsa have certainly adopted an attitude that they never saw a piece of data they didn't want to collect. i think it's true, the attitude really does seem to be getting now it may come in handy for something down the road. >> what do you think the president -- i'm sorry, what do

coming off an artsy president obama tells us he wants to change the nsa surveillance program but are the proposed reforms that enough to silence critics of the latest just a hack. and iran suspends its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. could this temporary deal paved the way for a future trends. more on these developments coming up and the industry and leaving the city of angels for the city of san. what's behind the move out of los angeles. we'll speak with an adult entertainer later a shout. fan. january twenty oh five pm and washington d c i a mob and your art in america well ever since former contractor and were snowed in the one point seven eight million classified documents to the world is hearing the nsa is internal structure of president obama has been walking the fine line of political fallout. if each of the permanent justice last week the president finally address the issue and announced sweeping reforms to the way the national security agency collects digital information. the changes included some more oversight by the executive branch the working national

the document reveals that the nsa plan to do this to gain advantage. it's as leaders in negotiating teams from around the world was undoubtedly the engaging in intense last minute policy formulated. and at that time it will be holding sidebar come discussions with their counterparts details of which are of great interest for policymakers. and while some are concerned about the surveillance of the us is conducting a broad others here in washington are focused on the nsa surveillance of americans and back senator ran all is planning to file a class action lawsuit against the nsa. speaking at the state of the net conference in washington dc this week. he said the administration's increasing transparency is only the first step toward reform. next step is is a constitutional eclectic with a single war to verizon. can you collect a hundred million people's records. my answer is no you cannot and should name the person before them an incision and the person so what i think and i think it's also good for your business model throughout their support going the n

asking if the nsa had spied or if the nsa is currently spying on members of congress or other american elected officials. wasnsa's response to that that members of congress have the same privacy protections as all u.s. persons which suggests the answer to that question is affirmative. you understand it, each of were granted security clearances, the ability to see classified information. i will ask the pet -- asked the thel -- are you aware has nsa ever done surveillance on members of congress or other elected american officials? >> we are not aware of any such. one of the things we learned in our review is that there are no targeting by the nsa of people because of their political views, religious convictions, or their political party. somerms of concretely, may not havee precise questions that every one of which answer to. politics, religion, political views -- that is not what they are interested in. >> we are talking about in recent years. we are not talking about the 1960's and 1970's when there was a different history of surveillance agencies. >> i mean incurring years -- in curre

do you think that the nsa will be able to hold on to all this material? orl there be a third party will be particular private companies have it and then the government have access to whatever wants or some kind of system like that? briefly, the irony that i find in this -- the net neutrality debate is talking about the evil telecom companies that are preying on us. i say, what about the government? i think there has been a misplacement of the real feels -- fears are. civil liberties organizations will redirect their energies to where the real concerns are. the data that has come forth has not been private companies that are harming the customers. it is maybe governments against citizens. >> what you think will happen? you think the nsa will be private -- deprived of all the material? or holding all the material? >> i'm not sure. >> anyone else? >> i don't mean this to be too snarky, but i will start with a start -- a snarky position that governments of foreign equivalents of the nsa will continue monitoring. it will allow our government to have some level

and we have a cybercommand with two four-star generals, leaving nsa.he law enforcement side, our administrative advancement to meet this threat has been, to put it mildly, it has been incremental. and there is a lot of responsibility for cyberthreats within the department of justice which is divided between the criminal division of the national security division. and they do a tricky job. in the spending bill, thanks to chairman mikulski is exemplary legislation talents, there is a provision that provides 120 days, within 120 days to put forward a multitier strategic plan. and so they will cripple us if we talk about the budget stuff without their presence and what it will look like with the prerogatives over the budget issue with omb. as we go forward, we are going in a moderate pace. requirement will be done within 120 days and i'm expecting that they will actually have a report within 120 days and i'm hoping that you and omb will put suitable effort. at a rapid rate in which this is growing and morphing into more complex and varied threats, all the

on national security, he let the nsa do whatever they wanted. that is completely opposite from the way he campaigned. i think that is disappointing to many of his supporters. host: and he is waiting in pennsylvania on the line for democrats. caller: good morning. i was just going to say about the same thing. i voted for president obama and the first term. in the second term, i -- the same thing. my comment was going to be that after the first term, he -- the media was supposed to be the watchdog. ignorede more or less the scandal and stuff that has gone on in this residency. -- i have great respect for your speaker. i was wondering what his thoughts were. ignoring fox and those places. what are his thoughts on the media and what they are ignoring? -- what are papers his thoughts on how the press is covering the root of all of the needs of what the press needs to do to cover things in this nsa controversy. thank you. guest: i agree 100%. the media has been very weak. i have been very critical of the media. i think that the mainstream media has la

we are going to be reliant on congress to rein in nsa surveillance issues. ultimately, the president has the ability to a number of thinks or executive orders. i do not think he has the motivation to do it. surveillance program is not curtailed, what are the long-term applications? >> the long-term effects are going to be hitting the tech industry. andcompanies like google facebook have been concerned about this. they met with the president to explain their concerns. analysts say that the cloud industry could suffer billions of dollars of loss. companies like cisco are saying they are already suffering losses of substantial amounts in their emerging markets. there is a serious economic consequence in addition to an enormous civil liberties question for people all over the world who want to use technology and have privacy. doesking a step back, why it matter who holds the data? if the government needs it, they can always get a hold of it later on. >> i think the important thing is that we are not sweeping up data on people all over the world who are not suspe

. >>> president obama and the nsa. trying to strike a balance between privacy, security, and politics. this is "special report." >>> good evening. i'm bret baier. president obama is trying to thread the needle tonight between civil libertarians at home and his counterparts around the world who want less government surveillance and the reality of living in a dangerous world. today, he unveiled a compromise which like so many others, satisfies few and leaves many complaining. chief white house correspondent ed henry has tonight's top story. >> it is not enough for leaders to say trust us. we won't abuse the data we collect. >> this was less about major change and more about president obama trying to reassure a public battered by a series of revelations. the speech delivered with the classic marks of the obama leadership style. stress he's heard all sides of the debate before deciding he's not really to decide. >> those who are troubled by our existing programs are not interested in repeating the tragedy of 9/11, and thos

>> nsa has to go back to core principles. it has to target intelligence, data, defer -- deter and defeat the real threat which is al qaeda. it's al qaeda metastasizing. 11,000 foreign fighters in that region for the moment. 73 of them known to be from the u.s. known to be through conversations to get those 73 to -- >> how is that going to hurt the fight on terrorism. you can now request data to people beyond a terrorist target. i don't know what that means. sometimes you find out it's a terrorist target from investigating. >> we're talking about apples and oranges. apples legitimately fighting and oranges collecting from millions of people. how do you mix that. he's right. you have to focus on legitimate terrorism battling but at the same time we have to be careful. >> what about edward snowden. you've done a lot of work at the u.n. will this push the call for amnesty for him? what are we going to do with him. >> a lot of people criticizing him. edward snowden broke the law. that remains the fact. going back to what doug was